Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-09 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We tried once upon a time at a previous employer to install OM/MVS as VM was being retired. After a couple of months a product was procured that was used with some sort of CICS hooks instead. I was had an OV/VM farm of over 5,000 customers. It was a dream for the time. Then the chickens got inv

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-09 Thread Eric Bielefeld
When I was at P&H Mining, we had OV/MVS for several years. We got it when there were very few PCs in the company. Most people who had PCs, and did emails or document writing on the mainframe didn't like OV/MVS. It was much more cumbersome to use than a PC. When most people had PCs, we got ri

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/08/2008 at 02:02 PM, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Perhaps it's more precise to say that OV/MVS is, by far, the closest >current match to PROFS. Is that fair? Is OV/VM dead? If not, it's the closest available to PROFS. OV/MVS was a hodgepodge of unre

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
Shmuel Metz writes: >No; OV/VM may be PROFS, but OV/MVS is quite different. Perhaps it's more precise to say that OV/MVS is, by far, the closest current match to PROFS. Is that fair? - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Rela

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/03/2008 at 02:41 PM, Brad Wissink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to >InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have >learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/04/2008 at 02:56 PM, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >PROFS is still around, although the new name (and new version) is now >OfficeVision. No; OV/VM may be PROFS, but OV/MVS is quite different. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT I

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
It is possible to get reliable e-mail-to-fax service. For example, you may wish to set up a private IPSec SMTP tunnel between your mainframe and your e-mail-to-fax service provider. Then you are connecting directly and over a private link, and you can have reasonable confidence in the transmission.

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-06 Thread Mark van der Eynden
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:41:08 -0500, Brad Wissink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX >V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax >support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-06 Thread Rob Schramm
The last place I worked used MQ to get faxes from the mainframe to a RightFax server. Worked pretty well... although every "so often" RightFax would decide not to take a "liking" to certain messages/sizes and respond a bit petulantly. Rob Schramm Sirius Computer Solutions

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-04 Thread Rob Wunderlich
We use eSendit from MacKinney. -Rob On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:41:08 -0500, Brad Wissink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I was just >curious as to how other shops are dealing with faxing from the mainframe? -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-04 Thread Harris, Randy
We use ColumbusZ (formerly VtamPrint) for routing our printing and we have a Rightfax server defined as printer in ColumbusZ. Randy Harris Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA Lane Furniture Industries, Inc. Tupelo, MS 38802 Phone: 662-566-3447 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mai

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-04 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 06:38 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: > Not in touch with all the details as it's not my area, but we use VPS to a > server that then uses RightFax. > > Believe me, that is as much as I know. That's about as much as you want to know. We're also RightFax customers, but not

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-04 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 14:56 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: > Re: Faxing, I think I'd echo what everyone else says about e-mailing. I'll not dispute the desirability of email over fax, but remember: you have to give the customer what s/he wants. We have vegetable brokers who come into the office a

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-04 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Not in touch with all the details as it's not my area, but we use VPS to a server that then uses RightFax. Believe me, that is as much as I know. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 p

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Timothy Sipples
PROFS is still around, although the new name (and new version) is now OfficeVision. You can get more details on OfficeVision/MVS here: http://www.ibm.com/software/applications/office/officevision/index.html Yes, it's available for ordering. The IBM product number is 5685-106. Re: Faxing, I think

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>http://www.rogerdmoore.ca/INF/EIPSPTTa.html Wow, it's a small small world. I used to attend lectures given by Ian Sharp, in the 1970's, at UWaterloo. And, he was a Bridge partner of mine in thew mid-1980's. Is he still around? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 03/04/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I was at Varian Associates, I wrote a PROFS-to-Telex interface. I > wonder if anyone still uses PROFS (officially discontinued in favor of the > great-in-theory-but-wretched-in-practice Lotus Notes)? Or even Telexes? > At the t

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Jack . Hamilton
When I was at Varian Associates, I wrote a PROFS-to-Telex interface. I wonder if anyone still uses PROFS (officially discontinued in favor of the great-in-theory-but-wretched-in-practice Lotus Notes)? Or even Telexes? At the time, there was a legal requirement that Telexes met but email did n

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Brad, When I was working at P&H Mining, when they still had a mainframe, they did faxing through CICS, a special PC that came with the product, and a Unix application that ran on the mainframe. This was the only Unix system we had on the mainframe. The only problem is - I can't remember the n

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Brad Wissink wrote: We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders to InfoPrint/AIX V4.1 and then faxing from there to the vendor. We have learned that fax support will no longer be included in InfoPrint on any platform. So I was just curious as to how other shops are dealing wit

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Hal Merritt
You might be surprised just how many fax solutions are just because that's the way it's always been done and the recipient would -much- rather have email. To answer your question, we email. Be aware we have had problems when an individual goes on vacation and the mailbox fills up. -Original

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 14:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > If you must fax, then email to a fax server inside your own > organization. I figure that I could put up a Linux/Intel system to do > this in a couple of days. This is a bigger job than you might think. Your customers have a wide variety of

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Apr 2008 12:50:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: >We don't do this, but I'd look at using email. If you must fax, then >email to a fax server inside your own organization. I figure that I >could put up a Linux/Intel system to do this in a couple of days. That's our solution a

Re: Faxing from the mainframe

2008-04-03 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Wissink > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:41 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Faxing from the mainframe > > > We currently are using PSF download to send purchase orders > t