Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-08-04 Thread Ulrich Boche
Rafael Fernandez L. wrote: Nobody mentioned ftp with GSSAPI (kerberos) ? Ignacio Landín Villegas Probably because there is rarely anyone using it. Furthermore, it was all but unusable for a long time: although the Kerberos ticket provided the cross-reference with the RACF userid, support f

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-31 Thread Rafael Fernandez L.
Nobody mentioned ftp with GSSAPI (kerberos) ? Ignacio Landín Villegas >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt >Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:39 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: secure ft

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
for other things, like telnet, web service, etc, right? My head hurts :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-29 Thread Kirk Wolf
Its all a little confusing... SSH is a tool/protocol for providing a secure connection over IP networks. Once you have a connection, you can have multiple "channels" routed over it. Channels could be interactive terminal sessions (to replace telnet), port-forwarding channels, command redirection

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-29 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:22:16 -0500, Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I was referring to the sftp that Walt mentioned. My take was that it was >neither TLS nor SSH. > >"SFTP is not FTP at all. It is a secure, FTP-like communication >protocol." Perhaps you didn't see the next sentence of th

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
obert Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: secure ftp on the mainframe http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/pdf/docs/fotza105 .pdf ..snip NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusive

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-29 Thread Kirk Wolf
"sftp" usually refers to the file transfer protocol that works as an ssh subsystem (although some use the term to refer to FTP/TLS). In the OpenSSH implementation, sftp and sftp-server are separate binaries that are shipped as part of OpenSSH. The sources for sftp and sftp-server are available fro

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-29 Thread Dooley, Robert
July 29, 2008 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: secure ftp on the mainframe Do you have any links to SFTP sources? Google search results were confusing and ambiguous. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sen

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-29 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:27 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: secure ftp on the mainframe > > Do you have any links to SFTP source

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
Do you have any links to SFTP sources? Google search results were confusing and ambiguous. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: secure ftp

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:00:55 -0700, Kurt Eastwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is SFTP really a 'secure ftp'? SFTP is not FTP at all. It is a secure, FTP-like communication protocol. (SFTP here, is a function provided by the ssh protocols.) I'm not sure anyone has really stated that in this thr

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:05:40 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It can be sftp - AFAIK ftp over SSH. It is available on z/OS as free and >unsupported tool. AFAIK it supports HFS files only (I mean anu Unix >file, regardless of filesystem type: ZFS, HFS,e tc.) >I vaguely remain some other type

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-24 Thread Itschak Mugzach
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: secure ftp on the mainframe > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt > Sent: Thurs

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-24 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: secure ftp on the mainframe > [snip] > > SSH is very popul

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-24 Thread Hal Merritt
As another posted, 'sftp' is not a unique enough name. There is a 'speedy' FTP that uses a propriety protocol, for example. The short answer to your question is that there are several 'flavors' of data encryption offered on z/os. The two main types are TLS (transport layer security, formally k

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-24 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kurt Eastwood > > Hello, >   > First off let me say I am not an FTP expert. >   > We currently use FTP on the mainframe to send files to > various sites. We also use SFTP on the UNIX boxes to send > files to various

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-24 Thread Wissink, Brad [ITSYS]
We run FTP with SSL and FTP with SSH. FTP/SSL is part of TCPIP, while sftp (FTP/SSH) is part of IBM Ported Tools (free for the download). We run both from batch procedure. We have RACF control the certificates and keyrings for FTP/SSL. Then you use the SYSFTPD DD statement to tell FTP if SSL

Re: secure ftp on the mainframe

2008-07-24 Thread R.S.
Kurt Eastwood wrote: Hello, First off let me say I am not an FTP expert. We currently use FTP on the mainframe to send files to various sites. We also use SFTP on the UNIX boxes to send files to various sites. I am looking for any information or help on using SFTP, which I understand to be 's

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-31 Thread Hal Merritt
lf Of Richard Pinion Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe Nothing wrong with using RACF for the CERT stuff but you can generate CERTS from OMVS using gskkyman. Maybe it is better to learn to crawl first rather than trying t

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-31 Thread Craig Kittendorf
Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe Hi, I followed Share Session 3925 to set up my ftp server on one z/OS v1.4 LPAR (CDCU). I then exported the certificate to another LPAR (CDCT) and imported the certificated into its key data base. When trying ftp from the second lpar to the first I get the

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-31 Thread Mark Vitale
I believe the software looks for the key database password in the "stash" file. When I ran into this recently, I was using gskkyman to manage my key file, and there's an option in gskkyman "10 - Store database password" to create the "stash" file. Once I did that, the TLS handshake moved on to

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-30 Thread Ulrich Boche
Howard Rifkind wrote: Ulrich, Can sFTP and FTP reside within the same z/OS partition and be used at the same time? For instance, one person is FPT'ing a secure document using sFTP and another is using just plain old FTP for something else You could use three different kinds of file transf

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-29 Thread Craig Kittendorf
2 Where would the key database password be supplied? Thanks, Craig -Original Message----- Subject: Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe > We would like to install Secure FTP in our maiframes TCP/IP configuration and I have no idea how to do this. > > Would some one be kind eno

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-27 Thread Baraniecki, Ray
Yes, I believe each has its own port assignments. Thanks, Ray Baraniecki Technical Consultant Morgan Stanley IIG 75 Varick Street New York, NY 10013 917-237-7066 Important Notice to Recipients It is important that you do not use e-mail to request, authorize or effect the purchase or

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-27 Thread Howard Rifkind
Ulrich, Can sFTP and FTP reside within the same z/OS partition and be used at the same time? For instance, one person is FPT'ing a secure document using sFTP and another is using just plain old FTP for something else Ulrich Boche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Howard Rifkind wrote: > We would l

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-27 Thread Steve Bireley
Howard Rifkind wrote>. Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:We would like to install Secure FTP in our maiframes TCP/IP configuration and I have no idea how to do this. Would some one be kind enough to point me in the right direction where to start and what manuals to check

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Vik
I think this would really help you to get going with what you want --> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B340/2.3.10?SHELF=F1A1BK50&DT=20040609153838 Please have a look into the following REDBOOK (lists the key ring set up): SG24-6840-00 "Communications Server for

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Baraniecki, Ray
: Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There must be something in the air or water, or maybe you have a spy here. > I was just asked the same thing. > > I tried to get a 3270 emulator to support SSL/TLS but was told by our > manager that SSL had nothing to do

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Ulrich Boche
Howard Rifkind wrote: We would like to install Secure FTP in our maiframes TCP/IP configuration and I have no idea how to do this. Would some one be kind enough to point me in the right direction where to start and what manuals to check out, and what to be aware of. I'm not really prime tim

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Ulrich Boche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There must be something in the air or water, or maybe you have a spy here. I was just asked the same thing. I tried to get a 3270 emulator to support SSL/TLS but was told by our manager that SSL had nothing to do with encryption so forget it. Anyway, I'm in the process

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Richard Pinion
I can't remember what I had to do to activate gskkyman. Oh yes, I had to add GSK.SGSKLOAD to PROG00 for APF and LNKLIST. Run gskkyman from TSO/OMVS. Once I had done the z/OS setup as below I had to work with the network guys to punch a hole thru our firewall to allow FTP SSL. Here are the pa

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Dave Gibney
I've just recently done both secure FTP and TN3270 in z/OS 1.4 I used the redbook volume 7. I found gskkyman just as confusing as RACF, so I used RACF :) I also need to thank Sam for pointing out Filezilla, which is a good FTP client and supports TLS One recomendation I would make is to

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Howard Rifkind
Richard, would you be good enough to send me over the parms you are talking about below. That would give me a good head start. Thanks. Richard Pinion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Would you be interested in using FTP with SSL/TLS support? If so, it is already installed. You need some parms and co

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Richard Pinion
Nothing wrong with using RACF for the CERT stuff but you can generate CERTS from OMVS using gskkyman. Maybe it is better to learn to crawl first rather than trying to run. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/26/05 12:32PM >>> And here is the cross posing from the RACF list as promised: QUOTE: This is a f

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Hal Merritt
And here is the cross posing from the RACF list as promised: QUOTE: This is a foil that I presented in SHARE and Vanguard. People think this helps them to clear things out. Would it help you? Given: ? CA1 is the CA cert which signed the server cert S ? CA2 is the CA cert which signe

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Hal Merritt
The manuals are confusing as they seem to be focused on Websphere and assume that is what you want to do. So far, I have achieved a secure transfer, or at least so say the messages. I created the CA cert on one system, then exported/imported it to another. Both systems are z/os 1.4 but do not share

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Craig Kittendorf
There must be something in the air or water, or maybe you have a spy here. I was just asked the same thing. I tried to get a 3270 emulator to support SSL/TLS but was told by our manager that SSL had nothing to do with encryption so forget it. Anyway, I'm in the process of trying to install the IC

Re: Secure FTP on the Mainframe

2005-05-26 Thread Richard Pinion
Would you be interested in using FTP with SSL/TLS support? If so, it is already installed. You need some parms and commands which I or other users of ibm-main can provide. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/26/05 10:21AM >>> We would like to install Secure FTP in our maiframes TCP/IP configuration and