Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Ed Gould
John, I remember doing something like this with a utility which name escapes me (PDS UTILITY)but it was a company from Farmington Michigan and I had to call their help desk to figure it out. This was 20 years ago. But I remember it was not exactly straight forward how to do. Ed -

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread McKown, John
The newest release of Faver from CA was just tested. It reduced our backup time from 58 minutes to 10 minutes and from 11 tapes to 6 tapes. Unfortunately, it is not totally transparent in that it requires a new DD statement, DSSMSGDD. It is invoking ADRDSSU to do the actual dump of the data. So

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread McKown, John
alf Of Pommier, Rex R. > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:15 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets > > You will let us know if it works, right? :-) > > Rex > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
You will let us know if it works, right? :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets Thanks. My

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread McKown, John
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets > > In , > on 09/14/2011 >at 08:08 AM, "McKow

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/14/2011 at 11:45 AM, "McKown, John" said: >Well, according to our LAN people, Windows is the only true standard. Which windoze? M$ introduces incompatabilities with every release. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Ed Gould
I have no idea what the issue is. The email you sent back to me does not contain the characters you indicated. A friend suggested it's a ISP issue. I will try using m other client and see if the issue follows. Ed -- For IBM-M

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/14/2011 at 08:08 AM, "McKown, John" said: >And chaning from Faver to ADRDSSU is no go because that is a change >which would require going through change control for each and every >file. I take it that the decision to drop Faver did not go through change control and the cost analys

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread McKown, John
ussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Norbert Friemel > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:53 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:18:12 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > > >Given that th

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:18:12 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >Given that the most obvious difference is that what used to take 3 output >tapes is now going to 12 output tapes, the "slow down" is due to the number of >bytes being written to tape. The bytes read from disk seem be about the same >becau

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:41 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSA

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Gilbert C Cardenas
Kown, John Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets They are virtual 3490s in a 3494 VTS from IBM. To anticipate some likely questions. They are SMS managed. The DATACLAS assigned to all virtual 3490s has COMPACTION=YES specified in i

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <20b9d8db9552d44981f6ebb3d26f579524a...@lm-hsexmsg-p06p.lm.lmig.com>, on 09/14/2011 at 02:51 AM, "Mingee, David" said: >Ed, Not that I know of. BTW, what is ',t mean? It's a character entity, and should only be used in HTML, SGML and XML. The decimal number following the &# is the ISO

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c02610f...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu>, on 09/14/2011 at 08:06 AM, "Gibney, Dave" said: >Something is wrong with Ed's email that causes single quote (or >apostrophes) to show as "'," Code points 96, 131, 145 and 146 are also single quotes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread McKown, John
u > Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets > > From 3 output tapes to 12? What kind of tape drives are you using? > > Rex > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John > Sent: We

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
d The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:50 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets &

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread McKown, John
alth Insurance Company.SM > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:50 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets >

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mingee, David > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets > > Hi John, Do the VSAM files s

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Staller, Allan
1) I would increase bufnum before bufsize 2) Compress the output... HTH, This is a weird question, but I've been directed to ask it. We are converting some VSAM datasets which currently use BMC's Data Accelerator compression to use SMS compression instead. This is a financial decision. We us

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Scott Chapman
I guess my first thought / question would be to identify where the bottleneck for the backups is; disk I/O, tape I/O, or CPU? Presumably disk I/O didn't change a whole lot for reading the data or you would have seen impacts elsewhere too. My guess would be similar for the CPU. However, if e

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
a.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets Ed, Not that I know of. BTW, what is ',t mean? I see it frequently, is it encrypted cursing? hahaha David L. Mingee Principal Systems Administrator Indianapolis Production Control Data Center Operations / Operations Technical Support

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-13 Thread Mingee, David
-6460 Home 317 598-0919 / Cell 317 341-0885 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets David, Correct me if I am

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-13 Thread Ed Gould
David, Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't DFDSS invoke idcams under the covers? Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Sear

Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-13 Thread Mingee, David
Work Ext 782-6460 Work Direct Dial 317 581-6460 Home 317 598-0919 / Cell 317 341-0885 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SMS compressed

SMS compressed VSAM datasets

2011-09-13 Thread McKown, John
This is a weird question, but I've been directed to ask it. We are converting some VSAM datasets which currently use BMC's Data Accelerator compression to use SMS compression instead. This is a financial decision. We use CA-Faver to do our VSAM backups. Faver states in its manual that it will un