Take a look at this job posting. $35/hr for PLX programmers (for the I/O
subsystem, no less!). You gotta be kidding me.
XXX is in need of a PLX Programmer for one of our top clients in
Poughkeepsie, NY.
Skills required:
PLX Programming skills (Very important as that is what the code is writ
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Thomas Conley wrote:
Take a look at this job posting. $35/hr for PLX programmers (for the
I/O subsystem, no less!). You gotta be kidding me.
[snip]
Maybe it's an indication of how important IBM thinks
z/OS is to its future. Another indicator, to me,
that they are not serious about sustain
At 09:51 AM 03/26/2006, you wrote:
Take a look at this job posting. $35/hr for PLX programmers (for
the I/O subsystem, no less!). You gotta be kidding me.
Based on the description, this sounds like requiring a brain surgeon
and paying them LPN wages! Anyway, what is PLX? Never heard of i
PL/I-like, is PL/X.
Charles
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In a message dated 3/26/2006 10:33:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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To see some PL/X, take a look at almost any of the OS macros. Roughly half
the code is familiar assembly/macro language - the other half, the code that
looks unfamiliar and PL/I-like, is PL/X.
>
On Mar 26, 2006, at 12:25 PM, Ed Finnell wrote:
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There was big stinko at one of the SHAREs mid eighties. Chevron
had written PL/S and was willing to part with it to 'broaden the
base'.
Think it was RAND decided this was
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full tape the week following GUIDE. I do remember there was a fuss
about IBM and the manual, but I thought the manual was on the tape, no?
>>
I never got my hands on one. I was doing ISPF someth
Jeez, (IIRC) I still remember it being PL/C.
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Originally BSL (Basic Systems Language) which morphed into PL/S
(Programming Language/Systems) and finally PL/X (... /X(cross)
platform?). The inline assembler ("GENERATE") capability was prone
to abuse in the early days, for quite a while we saw PL/S programs
that consisted of 10,000 lines of
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:33:18 -0500, Richard Tsujimoto wrote:
>Jeez, (IIRC) I still remember it being PL/C.
No, PL/C was Cornell University's student PL/1 compiler.
(I remember it, too; Waterloo had it as one of their batch compilers, as
did ISU and many other colleges and universities around the
I didn't see the original Web address for this PLX job posting. Here's one
instance:
http://www.net-temps.com/job/2ow6/PLX-POK/plx_programmer_ex_ibmers.html
With respect to the conclusions one could draw, here they are:
1. Somebody is (was?) looking for a PLX programmer.
2. Somebody would have
> With respect to the conclusions one could draw, here they are:
>
> 1. Somebody is (was?) looking for a PLX programmer.
> 2. Somebody would have made a nice profit at that asking price.
>
> With respect to the educated guesses beyond that, here they are:
>
> 3. At that asking price, somebody pr
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> With respect to the conclusions one could draw, here they are:
>
> 1. Somebody is (was?) looking for a PLX progra
Shane wrote:
With respect to the conclusions one could draw, here they are:
1. Somebody is (was?) looking for a PLX programmer.
2. Somebody would have made a nice profit at that asking price.
With respect to the educated guesses beyond that, here they are:
3. At that asking price, somebody pro
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> Shane wrote:
> >>With respect to the conclusions one could draw, here they are:
> >>
> >>1. Somebody is (was?) looking for a PLX programmer.
> >>2. Somebody would have made a nice profit at that aski
Right. Right. It was PL/S.
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Also not fair to totally point the finger at IBM who are probably paying,
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> No, PL/C was Cornell University's student PL/1 compiler.
> (I remember it, too; Waterloo had it as one of their batch compilers, as
> did ISU and many other colleges and universities around the world.)
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> The PL/X genealogy included PL/S and PL/AS, but not PL/C.
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Sorry, that wasn't me who said it was a PL/1 compiler.
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PL/X. But I'm not moving to Pok any time soon. :-)
Later,
Ray
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>>Also not fair to totally point the finger at IBM who are probably
paying,
>>AT LEAST, double the money being quoted.
>They're not. The latest matrix price I saw for this position was $50.
That's full time though, right? If you round to 2,000 hours annually
that's U.S. $100,000 plus benefits
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>Jeez, (IIRC) I still remember it being PL/C.
BSL, PL/S, PL/X and a few others, but not PL/C.
PL/C was a Cornell student compiler. It was fast, but I had students
who resorted to the "optimizing"
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Also not fair to totally point the finger at IBM who are probably
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> >>Also not fair to totally point the finger at IBM who are probably
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> >>AT LEAST, double the money being q
>take your quoted salary and add 33% to
get what you really cost to a company.
It's actually just over 40% in Ontario.
And, that's with me paying Ontario Health Premiums, which used to be covered by
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>take your quoted salary and add 33% to
get what you really cost to a company.
It's actually just over 40% in Ontario.
And, that's with me paying Ontario Health Premium
Tsujimoto
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Based on the recent cost-saving activities at GM, it was revealed that
for
a worker making $30/hr, the actual cost to the company (which includes
pensions) is $60/hr
>>They're not. The latest matrix price I saw for this position was $50.
>Ennh, thank you for playing. The $50 goes to the pimp, who turns
around
>and maybe coughs up $35 to a W-2 who's paying for his own health care,
etc.
I guess I interpreted "matrix price" differently. Obviously $50/hou
procedure and would then build a dummy "MAIN" procedure.
John P Baker
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