Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 21 Jul 2012 to 22 Jul 2012 (#2012-204)

> From:Phil Smith > Couldn't CP PVMSG send something that automation could pick up? I realize > it's a bit of a > kludge, but it could do it: your z/VM automation would listen for SIGNAL > SHUTDOWN and > then signal the z/OS guest(s) using PVMSG. I can see how that could work, but shouldn't

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 21 Jul 2012 to 22 Jul 2012 (#2012-204)

>From:Mary Anne Matyaz >[snip] >David, the best way to submit a requirement is through Share. Anyone can >submit a requirement. > Share has a new website that you'll need to sign up for, but you don't have > to be a Share member. > http://reqs4.share.org/Reqs4Who.jsp is the link to the re

Re: Yahoo Password Breach: 7 Lessons Learned - Security - Attacks/breaches - Informationweek

Sorry we are competitors I won't say more Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > Shmuel Metz asks: >> There is support for mapping long user ids into short user ids. Does >> that support work if the access validation is in a third party LD

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 21 Jul 2012 to 22 Jul 2012 (#2012-204)

> In Linux, which process handles the shutdown signal? Init? Or is it sent to > all > processes with a default of ignore, with at least one superuser process > handling it by issuing "shutdown"? They hooked it into init (believe it or not, into the cntl-alt-del handler...). The kernel register

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Hello, After spending more time on this issue, I have realized that this delay is because of syslog was consuming all spaced allocated to that. So, I have deleted syslog file from /usr/local/logs. This resolved my issue. Thanks for help. Regards Saurabh On Fri, Jul 6, 20

Re: re-entrant modules and the binder

At 09:13 -0700 on 07/22/2012, Charles Mills wrote about Re: re-entrant modules and the binder: > and it finds many but not quite all of them.  Basically, it finds ST 1,FOO where FOO is defined in the CSECT something like FOO DC F'0' but it does not find things like the following cons

Re: Storage utililzation Optimization

Compression is also an option -- in DB2, for example -- if you're not using it. Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com --

Re: Help with elementary CPU speed question

Mike Ward writes: >This is one area where I really have a problem. It used to be >back in the 370 days that if a machine was rated at 50 mips and >you moved up to 100 mips you really noticed the difference in >execution time I know I'm on a rant Was there even a 100 MIPS uniprocessor model

Re: Yahoo Password Breach: 7 Lessons Learned - Security - Attacks/breaches - Informationweek

Shmuel Metz asks: >There is support for mapping long user ids into short user ids. Does >that support work if the access validation is in a third party LDAP >server? Base z/OS includes LDAP client support, provided in the Tivoli Directory Server for z/OS. I already answered yes, so I'll vote yes a

Re: Integrating User Identity

Peter, could you elaborate on what "integration" means to you? Thanks. Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com ---

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

Couldn't CP PVMSG send something that automation could pick up? I realize it's a bit of a kludge, but it could do it: your z/VM automation would listen for SIGNAL SHUTDOWN and then signal the z/OS guest(s) using PVMSG. -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III p...@voltage.com Voltage

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

Robert, That is my understanding also..as long as an automation package or maybe even system rexx could intercept the message and take action that was desired. I don't see why that wouldn't work... Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:51 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" wrote: > A

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

At 18:18 -0500 on 07/22/2012, Ed Gould wrote about Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowled: I think the problem is that in z/OS there is no "one" way of notification (I know you are asking for one). There are at least 2 (3 if you count z) commands to "stop an application",

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

David, What issuing a z/Pdt cmd OPRMSG 'cmd ...'. Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 4:17 PM, David Boyes wrote: > How can I go about submitting a requirement for z/OS to acknowledge and > handle the same external interrupt as VM, VSE and Linux use to trigger a > control

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

"How can I go about submitting a requirement for z/OS to acknowledge and handle the same external interrupt as VM, VSE and Linux use to trigger a controlled shutdown (or at least acknowledge it by printing a message we can capture via console automation and trigger the shutdown ourselves)? " Da

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

I think the problem is that in z/OS there is no "one" way of notification (I know you are asking for one). There are at least 2 (3 if you count z) commands to "stop an application", "P" and ,technically "F" I know F is usually modify but it is also used as stop. All the applications would ha

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

The only address space that is slow coming down is ZFSit's pretty slw Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > Gil, > > I am with you and zMan what's so difficult about an orderly shutdown on OMVS > and z/os address spaces..z/Pdt has vtamappl,

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

Gil, I am with you and zMan what's so difficult about an orderly shutdown on OMVS and z/os address spaces..z/Pdt has vtamappl, everything shutdown fine... Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:23:36 -0400, zMan wrote: >>

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:23:36 -0400, zMan wrote: > >> Some years ago, I suggested in MVS-OE that MVS shutdown should >> send SIGTERM to all dubbed processes so that processes coded to >> UNIX conventions could perform orderly shutdown. The suggestion >> was not well received. > >Can you elaborate?

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Some years ago, I suggested in MVS-OE that MVS shutdown should > send SIGTERM to all dubbed processes so that processes coded to > UNIX conventions could perform orderly shutdown. The suggestion > was not well received. > Can you elaborate

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:17:11 -0500, David Boyes wrote: > >For those of you who haven't seen it, VM, VSE and Linux register for a >specific fully-architected hardware external interrupt (in the PoPs) that >indicates that the LPAR is being shut down. VSE issues a message, VM reflects >the interrup

Re: Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

On 7/22/12, David Boyes wrote: > How can I go about submitting a requirement for z/OS to acknowledge and > handle the same external interrupt as VM, VSE and Linux use to trigger a > controlled shutdown (or at least acknowledge it by printing a message we can > capture via console automation and tr

Submitting a requirement for z/OS to at least acknowledge SIGNAL SHUTDOWN by printing a message

How can I go about submitting a requirement for z/OS to acknowledge and handle the same external interrupt as VM, VSE and Linux use to trigger a controlled shutdown (or at least acknowledge it by printing a message we can capture via console automation and trigger the shutdown ourselves)? For

Re: re-entrant modules and the binder

The details of the example Charles Mills shows are unhelpful; but his central point---that the non-reentrant constructions the HLASM finds most readily are those of storage into one of the CSECTs or RSECTs being assembled---is entirely correct. Still, the RENT option should be specified when these

Re: REXX ISPF edit FIND failing

Yes, you are right - I overlooked that. Identical commands could produce different results if ISPLINK sent them to Clist instead of REXX, or vice versa. Thanks for noticing. Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:50:25 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote: Same question as earlier: Do identical

Re: REXX ISPF edit FIND failing

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:50:25 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote: > >>Same >>question as earlier: Do identical command strings issued to ISREDIT >>from CLIST and CALL have identical effect? >> >I would expect the ISREDIT effects of REXX/Clist v. ISPLINK calls to be >identical, because the command strings in t

Re: re-entrant modules and the binder

> and it finds many but not quite all of them. Basically, it finds ST 1,FOO where FOO is defined in the CSECT something like FOO DC F'0' but it does not find things like the following construct that IBM macros are or were fond of CNOP 0,4 BAL 1,*+8 DCF'0' ST2,0(0,1) In the f

Re: COBOL packed decimal

I was aware of the hardware on the machines, since my late father was a FE on them. Didn't really know anything about the opsys or programming languages. So the history is very interesting Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jul 22, 2012, at 8:37 AM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote: > In <1

Re: re-entrant modules and the binder

I am not sure that I fully understand exactly what you want to do or the exact sequence in which you want to do it. Your objective is, however, clear: You want to be able to use the CICS RENTPGM=PROTECT facility. If 1) you specify this option for a CICS application program (AP) and 2) CICS honors

Re: REXX ISPF edit FIND failing

Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 07:31:09 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote: I did explain that ISREDIT follows Clist rules when processing &'s, in my earlier posting, methinks : ... TSO Clist edit macros have been around long before REXX appeared (around 1989-90) and ISREDIT was meant to

Re: COBOL packed decimal

In <1342898015.24312.yahoomail...@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, on 07/21/2012 at 12:13 PM, Scott Ford said: >I wasnt sure if the 1108 had come from RCA or Buroughs The 1108 dates back to the old Remington-Rand or Sperry Rand, not to the RCA EDP acquisition. It's possible that Unisys picked u

Re: COBOL packed decimal

In <5139351871042018.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 07/21/2012 at 10:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >That's pretty vague. Does the standard specify the behavior as >implementation defined, Which standard? COBOL has had many over the years. The more recent standards are stricter abo

Re: COBOL packed decimal

In , on 07/20/2012 at 08:08 PM, Scott Ford said: >Who did the inherit the 1108 from ? My dad worked for Unisys on the >1108sdude Unisys was a merger of Burroughs and UNIVAC; They kept the B6500 line from Burroughs and the 1100[1] line from UNIVAC. [1] The 1108, 1110, 1106 and successors;

Re: JCL DD SUBSYS - how to write the SUBSYS

Hi If you still interested, I wrote couple of years ago a SUBSYSTEM use APPC (LU6.2) to access PC data something like this: //OUTPUT DD DSN='T:/miklos/K0917.MVS',DISP=SHR, // DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=8192), // SUBSYS=(QNTA,'SYSTEM=OS2APPC9,DATA=AFPDS') I can give you the source offlist. On 15