Re: Certificates, ICSF and CICS

2012-12-18 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-12-17 18:37, Rob Schramm pisze: R.S. is correct. Crypto Express cards can be configured 2 ways... both process handshakes. When configured as an accelerator... it only processes handshakes. Actually Crypto Express can be configured 3 ways. Third mode is quite new one and is

Re: IBM Application Performance Analyzer

2012-12-18 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Maybe Dave can comment this , but with the normal C++compiler and the HEAPPOOL(ALIGN, .. option we got 5-10% performance improvements. I would take a DUMP, to see what is going around this address. On 18.12.2012 04:05, Phil Smith wrote: Dave Rivers wrote: The routine in question

Re: IBM 3584/3953

2012-12-18 Thread Mike Wood
Sharon, Depending on how you are able to share things between the LPARS you will have to consider whether to partition the library. For example, you have a TCDB - can it be shared by all LPARs that share the library. If not you will need partitioning. There are (red)books to help with this.

Re: Can't get JESJCLIN for SEC ERROR jobs.

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Cross
Thanks for the response. I now have 2 software vendors who have replicated this problem for me (Phoenix and CA). I have raised a PMR with IBM but because we don't have a SupportLine contract I'm waiting authorisation for a PotBill.

Re: Certificates, ICSF and CICS

2012-12-18 Thread Miguel Villar
Thanks to everybody. So, in conclusion, in the case of using Certificates, is better (in terms of CPU) to have the certicate in Racf with the option ICSF, than to use the utility GsKyman and this way to have the certificate in USS File because in this case it is not posible to use ICSF

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Donald Likens
In defense of IBM it does say in the Principle and Operations... The BRANCH AND LINK instruction (BAL and BALR) is provided for compatibility purposes. It is recommended that, where possible, the BRANCH AND SAVE instruction... All I had to do it read the manual. On the other hand it would be

Re: Is it possible to write an exit for ADRDSSU to capture backup information?

2012-12-18 Thread Donald Likens
I created my own archive system using DFDSS becuase I have a very small system and DFHSM was an over kill and also I don't have access to tapes. To restore I needed a way to document the backup file in the DFDSS report. Here is what I did (using the CBT PDSE program): // Jobcard //LISTD EXEC

Re: IBM Application Performance Analyzer

2012-12-18 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 17.12.2012 21:13, Phil Smith wrote: I'm trying to use APA to grok some performance issues, and I see this in the output: AddressSize Location Percent of CPU Time * 10.00% 0.4% *12345678 1AACF228 64

Re: Certificates, ICSF and CICS

2012-12-18 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-12-18 12:24, Miguel Villar pisze: Thanks to everybody. So, in conclusion, in the case of using Certificates, is better (in terms of CPU) to have the certicate in Racf with the option ICSF, than to use the utility GsKyman and this way to have the certificate in USS File because in

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread John Gilmore
Qualitative statements---'BASR is marginally better than BALR' and the like---are not useless; but measurements are better, in exactly the sense that 'candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker'. IBM's ostrich-like failure to provide them does not mean that such measurements are not taken and used.

Re: IBM 3584/3953

2012-12-18 Thread Sharon Robertson
Thanks to Mike and Frank for their responses. Very much appreciated.   Sharon From: Mike Wood mww...@ntlworld.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:14 AM Subject: Re: IBM 3584/3953 Sharon,  Depending on how you are able to

Re: Certificates, ICSF and CICS

2012-12-18 Thread Rob Schramm
R.S., Thanks for the correction. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:17 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote: W dniu 2012-12-17 18:37, Rob Schramm pisze: R.S. is correct. Crypto Express cards can be configured 2 ways... both process

Re: Is it possible to write an exit for ADRDSSU to capture backup information?

2012-12-18 Thread Gary Snider
Radoslaw, I know the difference between ADRDSSU and HSM. We are a small shop and I don't see HSM in our future. It would be very difficult to justify, plus we simply don't need all that functionality. We have daily and weekly backups, so capturing the data would not be monumental. Other

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 06:11 -0600 on 12/18/2012, Donald Likens wrote about Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics): n defense of IBM it does say in the Principle and Operations... The BRANCH AND LINK instruction (BAL and BALR) is provided for compatibility purposes. It is recommended that,

Re: IBM Application Performance Analyzer

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 12/18/2012 2:42 AM, Miklos Szigetvari wrote: Hi Maybe Dave can comment this , but with the normal C++compiler and the HEAPPOOL(ALIGN, .. option we got 5-10% performance improvements. I would take a DUMP, to see what is going around this address. A SLIP IF (Instruction Fetch) trace

Re: Certificates, ICSF and CICS

2012-12-18 Thread Greg Boyd
EP11 Mode is only supported on the CEX4S card, not the CEX3. And the CEX4S card is only available on the zEC12. (You can also bring your current CEX3 cards forward to a zEC12, but you can't order CEX3 cards with a zEC12.) So if you have a CEX3 you can configure it either coprocessor mode (the

Re: Certificates, ICSF and CICS

2012-12-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Would the main reason for configuring these cards as an accelerator or EP11 mode be for maximum performance, or to ensure that only a subset of the available ICSF API's can be used on that card? Mark Jacobs On 12/18/12 12:31, Greg Boyd wrote: EP11 Mode is only supported on the CEX4S card,

Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I am only getting part of the first record of the dump DR2 H ..Á.@IEAVTSDT­ CDF4C40056F7CCCEEECEC 4920800005FC200095153243A The TRS file is 200

Re: IBM Application Performance Analyzer

2012-12-18 Thread Phil Smith
Various folks have made helpful suggestions. What I've done for now is to use AMBLIST to map the load module, then calculate the offset from one of the modules that APA *did* identify correctly. Now I have the folks who own the underlying code (which is where the hot spots seem to be) looking

Re: Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread Roger Bolan
Could the original data set have been truncated before it was tersed? Can you verify that the original data set was okay before tersing, and that the PACK step also got return code 0? On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: I am only getting part

Re: Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I'm using AMATERSE: ** AMA572I STARTING TERSE DECODE UNPACK 18:58:22 12/18/2012 ** AMA527I INPUT - DDNAME : SYSUT1 DSNAME: SYS12353.T185739.RA000.ESAT.TEMPTRS.H01 ** AMA528I OUTPUT - DDNAME : SYSUT2 DSNAME: ESA.X.UNTERSED ** AMA555I THE VALUES ARE: BLKSIZE= 27930

Missing sections in CEEDUMP

2012-12-18 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Does anyone know what controls sections that appear in a CEEDUMP (COBOL batch)? We are no longer seeing the WORKING-STORAGE section of a CEEDUMP. I am thinking this is controlled (maybe) by LE options, but have had no luck finding it. Any suggestions?

Re: Missing sections in CEEDUMP

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/18/2012 11:09 AM, Peter Ten Eyck wrote: Does anyone know what controls sections that appear in a CEEDUMP (COBOL batch)? We are no longer seeing the WORKING-STORAGE section of a CEEDUMP. I am thinking this is controlled (maybe) by LE options, but have had no luck finding it. Any

Re: Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I don't know. The customer is home now. On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:06:54 -0700 Roger Bolan rogerbo...@gmail.com wrote: :Could the original data set have been truncated before it was tersed? Can :you verify that the original data set was okay before tersing, and that the :PACK step also got return

Re: Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:08:09 +0100 Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: : Hi : :I'm using AMATERSE: :** AMA572I STARTING TERSE DECODE UNPACK 18:58:22 12/18/2012 :** AMA527I INPUT - DDNAME : SYSUT1 DSNAME: :SYS12353.T185739.RA000.ESAT.TEMPTRS.H01 :**

Re: Missing sections in CEEDUMP

2012-12-18 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Running IBM ENTERPRISE COBOL FOR Z/OS 4.2.0 on z/OS 1.13. Was working (working-storage appeared in dump) under z/OS 1.11, now it does not. That is what has me looking at a possible change in the LE runtime options betwwen releases.

Re: Missing sections in CEEDUMP

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Comstock
On 12/18/2012 11:33 AM, Peter Ten Eyck wrote: Running IBM ENTERPRISE COBOL FOR Z/OS 4.2.0 on z/OS 1.13. Was working (working-storage appeared in dump) under z/OS 1.11, now it does not. That is what has me looking at a possible change in the LE runtime options betwwen releases. Right. So,

Re: Missing sections in CEEDUMP

2012-12-18 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Found it. TERMTHDACT defaulting to TRACE. Issued SETCEE CEEDOPT,TERMTHDACT=((UADUMP,,96),OVR), tested and appears to be working. Thanks Steve for pointing me in the right direction. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread Roger Bolan
Uploading (from workstation to MVS data set) is a step where unintentional changes can easily happen. Using either FTP or a terminal emulator like Personal Communications, you may have to send SITE commands or set values to control the allocation, both size and DCB attributes) of the host data

Re: Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:31:58 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:08:09 +0100 Miklos Szigetvari wrote: :** AMA583I INPUT DATASET SIZE IN BYTES: 3355648 OUTPUT DATASET SIZE IN :BYTES: 29072603 :** AMA573I TERSE COMPLETE DECODE UNPACK 18:58:28 12/18/2012 :** AMA504I

Re: Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-12-18 18:51, Binyamin Dissen pisze: I am only getting part of the first record of the dump DR2 H ..Á.@IEAVTSDT­ CDF4C40056F7CCCEEECEC

Re: Certificates, ICSF and CICS

2012-12-18 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-12-18 18:43, Mark Jacobs pisze: Would the main reason for configuring these cards as an accelerator or EP11 mode be for maximum performance, or to ensure that only a subset of the available ICSF API's can be used on that card? Accelerator works approx. 3 times faster than

Re: Why would TRSMAIN end with RC=0 but not unpack the data?

2012-12-18 Thread Scott Ford
Roger, IND$FILE also has upload issues , include file location and location unless its per allocated Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Roger Bolan

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:11:29 -0600, Donald Likens wrote: it would be nice to know the relative speed of every instruction. For example: C r15,zero LTR r15,r15 I believe LTR is faster but how much? It depends. The LTR probably completes in one clock cycle or less. How much less depends

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0334187337131778.wa.dlikensinfosecinc@listserv.ua.edu, on 12/18/2012 at 06:11 AM, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com said: On the other hand it would be nice to know the relative speed of every instruction. I doubt that there is such a thing. The last time that IBM published timing

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAE1XxDGVf8mXEMYv5GiQV2-q2fqA4ogFJZLSqhqJ=iy5qo6...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/18/2012 at 09:41 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: IBM's ostrich-like failure to provide them Is your ill-informed spin; you want a pony. It's up to IBM to decide what types of timing comparisons are

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In p06240801ccf644601639@[192.168.1.11], on 12/18/2012 at 11:09 AM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com said: There is also the issue that BAS/BASR does not always produce the same result as BAL/BALR based on some factors such as AMODE. I know that in AMODE 24 BAL/BALR will supply

Re: Phil Payne

2012-12-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4049238816962137.wa.ibmmainsnacons@listserv.ua.edu, on 12/17/2012 at 03:25 PM, Roger Bowler ibm-m...@snacons.com said: Subject: Re: Phil Payne I'm getting to the point that I cringe when I see a subject containing just a name. I at least will miss him. I never met him in real life

Re: Phil Payne

2012-12-18 Thread Scott Ford
Shmuel, I would love to meet a lot of folks on the Listserv, not fortunate enough to go to Share Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Dec 18, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

Re: Phil Payne

2012-12-18 Thread David Andrews
Very sharp individual, traveled, able to tell a good story, suffered no fools. Offline we traded notes on common acquaintances and Irish folk songs. I learned about the unfortunate Neil Moss from him... shudder. Phil's knowledge of the business was remarkable. I found it a bit surprising that

Re: [SPAM] Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 12/18/2012 3:13 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Certainly not if IBM has already determined that they would be useless in the real world. FSVO useless. Timing information for a single instruction is pretty meaningless these days, but it is possible to produce a worst time (no

Re: Phil Payne

2012-12-18 Thread Linda
Sent from my iPhone On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Shmuel, I would love to meet a lot of folks on the Listserv, not fortunate enough to go to Share Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me

Re: Phil Payne

2012-12-18 Thread Greg Smith
Phil's knowledge of the business was remarkable. I found it a bit surprising that he came down on the Hercules community so hard, considering the grey paths that some of his own IBM information must have passed through. I had my disaggreements with the man but I respected him. If we had ever

Re: Phil Payne

2012-12-18 Thread Phil Smith
Greg Smith wrote: I had my disaggreements with the man but I respected him. If we had ever met I would have had no qualms trading pints with him. Well put. raises a pint to Mr. Payne -- ...phsiii -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Phil Payne

2012-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:19:27 -0500, David Andrews wrote: Phil's knowledge of the business was remarkable. I found it a bit surprising that he came down on the Hercules community so hard, considering the grey paths that some of his own IBM information must have passed through. My impression was

Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Don Williams
Instruction timing varies drastically due to multi-level cache, parallel and out of order execution, model dependent facilities, etc. You could have best-case and worst-case formulas. But I expect an average-case formula would be too data dependent to be useful. -Original Message- From:

Re: [SPAM] Re: 64 Bit Common Storage (was Common Data Space Basics)

2012-12-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
SHARE or a similar organization, if not IBM, could develop a standard job stream for different environments (e.g., financial batch, financial online, It's called LSPR. And, its follow-on, PCR. As flawed as they are, they are all we've got. And, they're expensive to maintain. SHARE couldn't

Re: Certificates, ICSF and CICS

2012-12-18 Thread Greg Boyd
The decision of coprocessor vs accelerator is performance/capacity based. When configured as an accelerator you can process significantly more transactions per second than you can as a coprocessor. The differences depend on which cards (CEX2, CEX3 or CEX4S) as well as which machines you are