Re: Limit on parallel TSO User address spaces started via CEA

2013-02-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
I think those are arbitrary limits, for the purpose of preventing an errant program or user from using too many address spaces, and also for allocating the storage for the table which is used to keep track of these address spaces. Do you have a scenario where these limits would be too low

Re: Dfsmsdfp

2013-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4940553f-61c2-4225-96c3-2977eee26...@yahoo.com, on 02/09/2013 at 12:56 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: This. Is http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.idau100%2Fu1245.htm That is z/OS V1R12.0 DFSMSdfp Utilities, SC26-7414-07, and

Re: Dfsmsdfp

2013-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 12faa502-7023-4b24-8a86-64a23bf64...@yahoo.com, on 02/09/2013 at 01:03 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Also that wasn't what I was asking ...I was asking about dfsmsdfp exits that could intercept the new ddnames How would DFSMSdfp determine that there was such a thing as a new

Need for two separate zOS1.13 MIGLIBs?

2013-02-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Have gotten this from customer dumps: BLS18224I Dump of z/OS 01.13.00-0 - level differs from IPCS level BLS21001I IPCS for z/OS 01.13.00-1 Are there a separate Z/os 01.13.00-0 and 01.13.00-1 miglibs? What structurally changed that would affect IPCS? -- Binyamin Dissen

Re: Dfsmsdfp

2013-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In fbfbeba1-ecd1-4e3c-b96a-d5815c782...@yahoo.com, on 02/09/2013 at 02:22 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: I agree. The IBM developer who's on this listserv gave me the code for IDCAMs and saved me a lot of effort. The other program I tested in our z/os 1.12 environment and works

Re: Dfsmsdfp

2013-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5116a66a.6010...@valley.net, on 02/09/2013 at 02:41 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said: I suspect you misread the rant. It had nothing to do with linkage conventions, and you have failed to specify why you consider it unreasonable. Has anybody submitted such a requirement to

'nuther basic SMS q

2013-02-11 Thread Shane Ginnane
Why doesn't LIKE= pull in volcount ?. Multi-volume dataclass - PDS(E) are always a problem. Question is why ?. If you have a (obviously) single volume PDS(E) as a model for a LIKE=, why doesn't the volcount get inherited ?. Yes, I know it can be tested in the routines - why should it have to be

Re: basic SMS question

2013-02-11 Thread Martin, Larry D
If you have corrected the SMS rules then you may use ADRDSSU and the REDETERMINE command to reset the DATACLAS, MGMTCLAS, and STORCLAS for any specific disk volume. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP -

Re: basic SMS question

2013-02-11 Thread Jim McAlpine
That's the winner. Thanks. Jim McAlpine On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Martin, Larry D ldmar...@co.pg.md.uswrote: If you have corrected the SMS rules then you may use ADRDSSU and the REDETERMINE command to reset the DATACLAS, MGMTCLAS, and STORCLAS for any specific disk volume.

Re: Need for two separate zOS1.13 MIGLIBs?

2013-02-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:04:48 +0200, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: Have gotten this from customer dumps: BLS18224I Dump of z/OS 01.13.00-0 - level differs from IPCS level BLS21001I IPCS for z/OS 01.13.00-1 Are there a separate Z/os 01.13.00-0 and 01.13.00-1 miglibs? What

Re: Burroughs SPO - was RE: JES2 Hist from Jack Schudel(ret.)

2013-02-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 00:03:11 +, Lester, Bob wrote: Someone once told me it was Supervisory Printer Online I remember it from my days working with a B1700 series computer as System print out. Your link below refers to it as Supervisory Print Out. It was the system console, and on the

Re: z/OS v2.1 preview

2013-02-11 Thread John Eells
Edward Jaffe wrote: On 2/8/2013 7:41 AM, John Eells wrote: Edward Jaffe wrote: On 2/6/2013 6:16 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: FTPS, but not SFTP? Is this retroactive to products older than 2.1? As I understand things, this really has nothing to do with z/OS V2R1. Not sure why it's in the

UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All Readers,   I am having a problem trying to perform the IMPORT.  Here is the error message :    IMPORT IDS(SYS1.ZWA6PWG.BKUP) -      ODS(CATALOG.DB2TESX) -      ALIAS -  

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread Staller, Allan
quote IGD17802I VOLUMES SPECIFIED BY THE CALLER ARE NOT IN THE SAME STORAGE GROUP FOR A GUARANTEED SPACE REQUEST, DATA SET IS dsname Explanation: In a guaranteed space request for a data set, the caller selected specific volumes, and selected a storage class with the guaranteed

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
After reading it several times, my impression is that the 'volumes specified by the caller' are the volume the catalog resides on now. Apparently the catalog is deleted and defined and thereby given the 'guaranteed space attribute'. Can it be that the ACS routines direct the new catalog to an

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
Kees,   I took another look.  The CATALOG has been defined on the correct volume which is in the right storage group.  I verified the ACS routine and it seems to be right. From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent:

Re: Dfsmsdfp

2013-02-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 14:22:20 -0500, Scott Ford wrote: I saw abendaid causing a u4039-8 abend twice and LE CEEHSRP , the resume point module get involved. Abend-AID issues a 4039-8 after producing an Abend-AID report when called as an Abnormal Termination Exit by the Language Environment. It

2.1 UNIX Enhancements (was: SFTP vs. FTPS)

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:44:34 +0800, David Crayford wrote: On 11/02/2013 1:04 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: To steer back to the topic at hand, there's a long list of UNIX-related enhancements listed in the z/OS 2.1 Preview. Many/most of them match what I'd like to see personally. I didn't see

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Could you post the LISTC ENT(SYS1.ZWA6PWG.BKUP) ALL for us? Thanks Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: UNABLE TO

Re: Limit on parallel TSO User address spaces started via CEA

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:50:14 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 02/11/2013 02:09:58 AM: From: nitz To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, Date: 02/11/2013 02:17 AM The CEA TSO/E address space manager can create up to 10 concurrent address spaces

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
Lizette,   Here it is.  The volume is non-SMS.         LISTC ENT(SYS1.ZWA6PWG.BKUP) ALL NONVSAM --- SYS1.ZWA6PWG.BKUP IN-CAT --- SYS1.CIU.MCAT  

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Willie, Also do the same for the catalog, CATALOG.DB2TESX So the file SYS1.ZWA6PWG.BKUP is from an EXPORT INTO TEMP for a catalog reorg? Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Monday,

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread Darth Keller
Sorry, I haven't been following this too closely. So this may have been asked before. I'm assuming the information below is for the exported copy. What catalog was exported and what volume was it on when the export was made? If the volume of the source was in a different storage group from

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
Lizette,   Yes, the backup is from an EXPORT INOT TEMP for a catalog reorg.  When I did the EXPORT command I had  ALTER CATALOG.DB2TESX LOCK     EXPORT CATALOG.DB2TESX OUTFILE(DISK1) TEMPORARY    EXPORT CATALOG.DB2TESX OUTFILE(DISK2) TEMPORARY   /*  

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread Darth Keller
Understood. It doesn't matter where the output goes - it could even be on tape. So CATALOG.DB2TESX is still on the same volume as when it was exported? ddk From: willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/11/2013 11:06 AM Subject:Re: UNABLE

Re: blksize for ML2 migrated dataset via HSM

2013-02-11 Thread Jonathan Goossen
I found this in our TMC: BLKSIZE= 229376 I vaguely remember seeing this increase a few versions back along with some other field sizes. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, DTM ACT Mainframe Storage Group Personal: 651-361-4541 Department Support Line: 651-361- For help

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
Darth,   The CATALOG.DB2TESX was on a non-SMS managed volume when the export was done..  I allocated it on a SMS managed volume because of a user request.  From: Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 11,

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
Darth,   Just a thought.  Could the problem be caused because the CATALOG was on a non-SMS managed volume when the EXPORT was done and now I am defining the CATALOG on a SMS managed volume which is causing the IMPORT to fail? From: Darth Keller

Re: blksize for ML2 migrated dataset via HSM

2013-02-11 Thread Jonathan Goossen
From CA 1®Tape Management Systems Programmer Guide r11.5 SP5 BLKSIZE TMBLKSI 96(60) BIN 4 MAXIMUM BLOCK SIZE JFCB JFCBLKSI 4 bytes are used to store the block size. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, DTM ACT Mainframe Storage Group Personal: 651-361-4541 Department Support

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread Darth Keller
From the manual:If you select OUTDATASET, the VSAM data set you identify is dynamically allocated. So I think you're getting interference from your SMS routines. You may want to specify the STORAGECLAS MGMTCLAS parameters on your IMPORT cmmd also. Do you have any IGD* messages beside

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
I tried the following but same problem:    IMPORT IDS(SYS1.ZWA6PWG.BKUP) -      ODS(CATALOG.DB2TESX) -     OBJECTS(DB2AP1) -      ALIAS -        LOCK -   

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread Darth Keller
sorry - too much of a hurry - from the manual: OBJECTS ((entryname [FILE(ddname)] [MANAGEMENTCLASS(class)] [NEWNAME(newname)] [STORAGECLASS(class)] [VOLUMES(volser[ volser...])]) [(entryname...)...]) From: willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date:

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
I tried this out but it failed because of a syntax error possibly?  Could you spot my error    IMPORT IDS(SYS1.ZWA6PWG.BKUP) -        ODS(CATALOG.DB2TESX) -   

Re: IEFUSI and SYS.PROCLIB(INIT)

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Schuster
Well, this is actually personally of interest to me. But trying to understand your reply seems to indicate that 1) IEFUSI can't control INIT/IEFIIC and 2) there is not a GUPI/exit that will allow the INIT to be controlled? Is that the correct understanding? Thank you. Paul

Re: Need for two separate zOS1.13 MIGLIBs?

2013-02-11 Thread Jim Mulder
Have gotten this from customer dumps: BLS18224I Dump of z/OS 01.13.00-0 - level differs from IPCS level BLS21001I IPCS for z/OS 01.13.00-1 Are there a separate Z/os 01.13.00-0 and 01.13.00-1 miglibs? What structurally changed that would affect IPCS? For purposes of maintaining

Re: blksize for ML2 migrated dataset via HSM

2013-02-11 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
Obviously memory didn't serve. The TMBLKSI field in the CA-1 TMC is indeed 4 bytes. But the manual says the data comes from the JFCBLKSI field in the JFCB and that field is only 2 bytes. I wonder where CA-1 picks up the extra data from. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Dfsmsdfp

2013-02-11 Thread Scott Ford
Shmuel, There were several issues we had to correct. We are using cobol and reading Vba files, we code a dcb with lrecl + 4 which works great, they didn't, causing issues, in the process as I mentioned I saw two u4039 abends in Abendaid,i don't know why ...that's more the customers issue ..

Hillgang Reminder - 13 Feb

2013-02-11 Thread Neale Ferguson
Our next meeting is this Wednesday at the CA office in Herndon Va. Please let me know if you're coming so I can finalize numbers for catering. For you history/nostalgia buffs the presentation from the folks at Paul Allen's Living Computer Museum will be a highlight.

Re: blksize for ML2 migrated dataset via HSM

2013-02-11 Thread Mike Wood
The DCBE where the larger block size is stored when the LBI is used (ie Application supports it). Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: blksize for ML2 migrated dataset via HSM

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:46:31 +, EXT-Schwarz, Barry wrote: Obviously memory didn't serve. The TMBLKSI field in the CA-1 TMC is indeed 4 bytes. But the manual says the data comes from the JFCBLKSI field in the JFCB and that field is only 2 bytes. I wonder where CA-1 picks up the extra data

Re: z/OS v2.1 preview

2013-02-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:21:15 -0500, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com wrote: It's definitely NOT limited to z/OS, but we commonly make announcements related to z/OS platform software delivery in the z/OS announcements to avoid the overhead of separate software delivery announcements. Also, some of the

Re: basic SMS question

2013-02-11 Thread Don Williams
Some people create data set reports based a DATACLAS names. Those people are not happy when their reports are wrong. ALso DATACLAS has at least one dynamic attribute, Dynamic Volume Count. Changes to Dynamic Volume Count affect existing data sets. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: UNABLE TO IMPORT - IGD17802I

2013-02-11 Thread willie bunter
Darth,   I am not sure if you saw my earlier post.  I think the problem is fixed.  This is what I did.   IMPORT IDS(SYS1.ZWA6PWG.BKUP) - ODS(CATALOG.DB2TESX) - OBJECTS(CATALOG.DB2TESX - VOLUMES(DB2AP1))) - IDC0233I TOO MANY RIGHT PARENTHESES FOUND. EXCESS IGNORED ALIAS - LOCK -

How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Charles Mills
This is a theoretical question. I am *not* an Endevor user. I am trying to solve a *similar* problem and this is the best way to explain it. Here's the question: at shops that use Endevor for all compiles, how do you lock down the compilers so that programmers can only run the compilers under

Re: z/OS v2.1 preview

2013-02-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:15:53 -0600, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: Unfortunately this information did not make it into the z/VM V6.3 Preview announcement. As you say, it applies to all System z software delivery, not just z/OS. I realized that this could be misconstrued. While

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:32:36 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: This is a theoretical question. I am *not* an Endevor user. I am trying to solve a *similar* problem and this is the best way to explain it. Here's the question: at shops that use Endevor for all compiles, how do you lock down the

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Gainsford, Allen
This is a theoretical question. I am *not* an Endevor user. I am trying to solve a *similar* problem and this is the best way to explain it. Here's the question: at shops that use Endevor for all compiles, how do you lock down the compilers so that programmers can only run the compilers under

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Don Williams
Perhaps RACF's program control feature could be used. Top Secret and ACF2 have similar features. The objective would be to only allow the Endevor programs to be able to update your target libraries. This does not prevent a user from executing a compiler (or other program); however his compiler

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread John McKown
My personal opinion is that trying to lock down a program, any program, so that it can only be executed in a specific manner is a waste of time and effort. The most that I ever do is make it too much of a bother for anyone to want to. If using the COBOL compiler outside of CA-Endevor is set up to

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:32:36 -0800, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: This is a theoretical question. I am *not* an Endevor user. I am trying to solve a *similar* problem and this is the best way to explain it. Here's the question: at shops that use Endevor for all compiles, how do you lock

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Charles Mills
Perhaps you should explain your actual problem, not have us try to guess at an answer by analogy. A client wishes to restrict the use of a particular (vendor) program to those users who execute it via their homegrown front-end. I'm curious why you would want to do that. Wouldn't it be

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread John McKown
I guess I missed that on the first read. It is true you cannot force clients to be reasonable. Possibly what you could do is make a member name which is not valid in JCL. Such as using some non printable binary data. You can still do LINK and LOAD macros on that and execute the program that way.

Re: 2.1 UNIX Enhancements (was: SFTP vs. FTPS)

2013-02-11 Thread David Crayford
On 12/02/2013 12:07 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:44:34 +0800, David Crayford wrote: On 11/02/2013 1:04 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: To steer back to the topic at hand, there's a long list of UNIX-related enhancements listed in the z/OS 2.1 Preview. Many/most of them match

Re: Need for two separate zOS1.13 MIGLIBs?

2013-02-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ndghh8da6en64rgvru2f0sk6gfa0qji...@4ax.com, on 02/11/2013 at 12:04 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said: Are there a separate Z/os 01.13.00-0 and 01.13.00-1 miglibs? The MIGLIB you use for IPCS should be identical to the one on the system taking the dump. Even a difference

Re: IEFUSI and SYS.PROCLIB(INIT)

2013-02-11 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 02/11/2013 01:58:22 PM: Well, this is actually personally of interest to me. But trying to understand your reply seems to indicate that 1) IEFUSI can't control INIT/IEFIIC and 2) there is not a GUPI/exit that will allow the

Re: Limit on parallel TSO User address spaces started via CEA

2013-02-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
gil, Does this count address spaces started by syscall fork() when OMVS runs under TSO? Does syscall fork() use the CEATsoRequest API under the covers? If so, then yes. Does it count adress spaces started by USS Rexx address TSO? Does USS Rexx address TSO use the CEATsoRequest API under the

Re: Limit on parallel TSO User address spaces started via CEA

2013-02-11 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 02/11/2013 11:33:10 PM: Does this count address spaces started by syscall fork() when OMVS runs under TSO? Does syscall fork() use the CEATsoRequest API under the covers? If so, then yes. Does it count adress spaces

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 19:21 -0600 on 02/11/2013, John McKown wrote about Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endev: I guess I missed that on the first read. It is true you cannot force clients to be reasonable. Possibly what you could do is make a member name which is not valid in JCL. Such as

Re: Limit on parallel TSO User address spaces started via CEA

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:38:03 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu wrote on 02/11/2013 11:33:10 PM: Does this count address spaces started by syscall fork() when OMVS runs under TSO? Does syscall fork() use the CEATsoRequest API under the covers? If

Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endevor?

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:45:29 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 19:21 -0600 on 02/11/2013, John McKown wrote about Re: How do people lock down the compilers inside CA Endev: I guess I missed that on the first read. It is true you cannot force clients to be reasonable. Possibly what you could

Re: Burroughs SPO - was RE: JES2 Hist from Jack Schudel(ret.)

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Westerman
When I was in college I worked at a Hospital in operations in the mid-late 70's, we also had a Burroughs system (it was a B7700 that we upgraded to a B7800) and while there was a teletype in the corner that we sometimes had to use for the B7700, our main interface was on a real tv-type monitor.

Re: Limit on parallel TSO User address spaces started via CEA

2013-02-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
Even when Rexx under z/OS Unix System Services creates the address space in order to start another instance of the TSO TMP? And I forgot to ask the obvious question: Does this count address spaces used to EXEC PGM=IKJEF* in batch? gil, please read MVS Programming: Callable Services for

Re: IEFUSI and SYS.PROCLIB(INIT)

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Westerman
I think that the OP is possibly confusing INIT with what addressspace will eventually be started by that INIT. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu