From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"
Date: 03/31/2013 09:11 PM
In
,
on 03/29/2013
at 11:39 AM, Steve Thompson said:
>The spoofing is so good in some cases, they even make it look like
>it was sent from your ISP (IP address, etc.).
ITYM that the spoofing was good enough to fool someone th
And why? I learned in computer class 101 that the 'hole' in the alphabet
derived from the iffy quality of card stock in the early days combined
with less than perfect punching gear. Each letter consisted of one zone
punch (top three) and one digit punch 1 - 9. With only 26 letters, one of
the 2
S is x'E2' instead of x'E1'
Don
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> On Behalf Of Skip Robinson
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:07 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: PC2 - The New Punched Card Cloud
>
> Trivia 2. W
Charles Mills wrote:
>Easy question. Herman Hollerith wanted them to feel familiar, so he made them
>the size of a US Federal bill.
True. Although I was surprised to learn from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card that they’re not *quite* the size of
an old bill:
At some point, 31⁄4 by 73⁄
Trivia 2. What quirk of the punch card had an effect so profound that it
survives today in EBCDIC?
.
.
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From: Charle
Easy question. Herman Hollerith wanted them to feel familiar, so he made them
the size of a US Federal bill.
Charles
Composed on a mobile: please excuse my brevity
Phil Smith wrote:
>Jim Bohnsack wrote:
>>I still "use" punched cards (IBM 5081's) as note cards. I retired from
>>mainframe sup
Jim Bohnsack wrote:
>I still "use" punched cards (IBM 5081's) as note cards. I retired from
>mainframe support last summer and have at least 2 boxes of cards (not
>punched). They are the best note cards in the world.
And I just bought a box of 2,000 on eBay!
Trivia question: How was the size
Thanks, Tony, SPC had in fact escaped my attention. I either never saw it,
or ran it together with Metal C in my mind. (Yes, I am now clear on the
difference.)
I think the Metal C looks like a better fit for what I am trying to do.
No progress on this project today. Other fish jumping into the fr
It occurred to me to add to my previous comment:
For batch applications, you might have some console automation response to the
DSN9022I message stating"DSNYASCP 'START DB2' NORMAL COMPLETION" on one hand
and the DSNY002I message on shut-down on the other. You would use the response
to activa
April 1 joke from Amazon Cloud Services.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:07:30 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>
>>Yes, it's seems to be for real. But I have no idea what it is running on.
>>Only has a few of the "free" system software OSes available, just
Thank you to all that have responded.
What I am attempting to accomplish.
I wish to perform a pre-emptive check on the availability of a DB2 subsystem
on another sysplex prior to shipping a batch job over to that
Plex. Yes, I could code a small SQL QUERY and check for the SQLCODE
returned,
On 1 April 2013 13:07, John McKown wrote:
>
> Yes, it's seems to be for real. But I have no idea what it is running on.
> Only has a few of the "free" system software OSes available, just like
> Hercules/390.
>
> http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2013/04/pc2-the-new-punched-card-cloud.html
>
> Yes, I've
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:53:49 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
>Edward Jaffe has now, inevitably and I trhink wisely, blown the gaff.
>
>As some few of you perhaps did not already know, the prototypically C
>data type of an SBCS string "of conceptually unlimited length", EOS
>delimited by a nul, x'00', ha
Edward Jaffe has now, inevitably and I trhink wisely, blown the gaff.
As some few of you perhaps did not already know, the prototypically C
data type of an SBCS string "of conceptually unlimited length", EOS
delimited by a nul, x'00', has been exploited over and over again to
do great mischief.
T
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:07:30 -0500, John McKown wrote:
>Yes, it's seems to be for real. But I have no idea what it is running on.
>Only has a few of the "free" system software OSes available, just like
>Hercules/390.
>
>http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2013/04/pc2-the-new-punched-card-cloud.html
>
>Yes,
On 1 April 2013 10:03, Charles Mills wrote:
> I am now thinking that perhaps I write the "SMF build" logic in the Metal
C subset dialect, but then compile it two ways:
>
> 1. With Metal C for linking with Rexx.
> 2. With "standard" C (is there a name for non-metallic C? Plastic C?) for
linking wi
Shmuel wrote:
The dope vectors contained addresses; a descriptor does not. The
equivalent of a dope vector is a locator/descriptor, not a descriptor
in isolation.
and this is the classical usage. It also retains a useful
distinction between, among others, LE discriptors, which---like PL/I
ba
Sorry, you're right of course, non-exact speaking on my part ...
I first had to check the German meaning of "dope" in this context to
understand what "dope vector" stands for ...
Am 01.04.2013 16:15, schrieb Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.):
In <515866be.3010...@t-online.de>, on 03/31/2013
at 06:39
Yes, it's seems to be for real. But I have no idea what it is running on.
Only has a few of the "free" system software OSes available, just like
Hercules/390.
http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2013/04/pc2-the-new-punched-card-cloud.html
Yes, I've visited the site. With Javascript disabled, of course. Se
On 4/1/2013 8:49 AM, Skip Robinson wrote:
So the question: if a program is running in an APF environment but is not
itself marked AC(1), do the PARMDD considerations apply?
LONGPARM is needed only for APF-authorized job steps. The fear is that
these programs might be fooled into copying an "ov
You could use the DB2 RRSAF function "FIND_DB2_SUBSYSTEMS" which will
populate 2 arrays, each with 4 byte entries (which must be caller
provided) with DB2 subsystem ID's and an indicator if the subsystem is
active. For more information, see the DB2 Application Programming and SQL
Guide manual.
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:49:38 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote:
>Sorry for reaching back to an older posting in this thread. I did not see
>this question handled. I worked with Ed at that same institution, the late
>great Security Pacific Bank. While it's true that (undoubtedly) no module
>in the widely
Available to whom? For networked applications, you might try a SELECT from
SYSIBM.SYSDUMM1 table. For batch applications, you might have some console
automation response to the DSN9022I message stating"DSNYASCP 'START DB2' NORMAL
COMPLETION" on one hand and the DSNY002I message on shut-down o
Sorry for reaching back to an older posting in this thread. I did not see
this question handled. I worked with Ed at that same institution, the late
great Security Pacific Bank. While it's true that (undoubtedly) no module
in the widely shared production load library was marked AC(1), the libra
Thanks! Will keep this forum informed.
- Intention is static -- I like the "certainty."
- No 64-bit.
Charles
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I think you are safer that way.
We have code that does the __cinit() call for our Metal C routines that is in a
separate routine that never gets compiled with "normal" C. I see no reason why
you could not put it into your function and use #ifdefs to not compile it when
you are using "standard"
In <515866be.3010...@t-online.de>, on 03/31/2013
at 06:39 PM, Bernd Oppolzer said:
>Of course, if the called program is PL/1, things get complicated
>again, because PL/1 needs descriptors (called dope vectors in
>earlier releases),
The dope vectors contained addresses; a descriptor does not.
In
,
on 03/31/2013
at 10:54 AM, Peter Relson said:
>I thought that by mentioning CALL, ATTACH, and XCTL"interface" you
>were referring to the interface to the target routine, where the
>"traditional" parameter list format is register 1 pointing to a
>parameter list each entry of which conta
As others have asked in different words, from what environment?
>From the Z console, one could do -subsys DIS TRA
>From TSO, one could run DSN, and direct SQL to the subsystem.
>From an assembler program, I guess there are probably control blocks one
could chase.
Charles
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Great minds think alike!
I am now thinking that perhaps I write the "SMF build" logic in the Metal C
subset dialect, but then compile it two ways:
1. With Metal C for linking with Rexx.
2. With "standard" C (is there a name for non-metallic C? Plastic C?) for
linking with the C++ code.
Along wit
Sounds very good to me, if there is no need in the "REXX calls C" situation
to have some functions which are not available in Metal C.
The different compiles of the same source (one with Standard C, one with
Metal C,
controlled by different #ifdefs) seems to be a good solution - you could
also
I'm not familiar with DB2, but to see if something is truly alive, why not
just try something innocuous? I don't know how difficult this is with DB2,
but could you use a SPFUI type program to do something like:
SELECT CURRENT-TIME FROM sysibm.systables
I don't know the name of the actual table to
Rexx connect? Command response from console? Control block scan? Many ways
to get this info.
Itschak
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
> Could you provide some more detail on what you are looking to do? What
> problem you are trying to solve.
>
> in the case of DB2, the ea
Could you provide some more detail on what you are looking to do? What
problem you are trying to solve.
in the case of DB2, the early code is loaded at IPL time. So some commands
maybe available. But it is not until the various started tasks are up, that
the system is active.
So what are you l
If he is careful, he can even compile C1 for normal C calls and compile it a
second time with Metal C for calling from Rexx. I agree with Charles, calling
from Rexx to Metal C is probably simpler than calling a standard C routine.
We have several routines that we compile both ways: for some th
You can use malloc() in Metal C. We do. My point was that the malloc() in
Metal C is a different routine than the malloc() in the LE library. Also, to
use malloc() and some of the other Metal C functions, you need to call __cinit.
I am not sure how you do that when you are also linking with
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