Re: VISARA Consoles FICON Get 505, 510

2013-07-28 Thread George Henke
Thank you very much, Jerry, for this very useful feedback. Yes, we are using the Coax Box add-on and having just horrendous problems not only with it but with the 3074 itself. We have learned that the Visara FICON product has only 5 customers and has been available for only since Jan 1. This

OPTICA PRIZM FICON2ESCON Conversion and Visara

2013-07-28 Thread George Henke
Has anyone used these converters to front-end Visara consoles either directly or behind an ESCON Director? The unvetted Visara FICON console product is causing us great consternation and the only other option for a zEC12, which is pure FICON, ESCON being no longer available, are these OPTICA

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Charles Mills
Okay, everyone is beating me up for not reporting this problem. Let me tell you the story that put me off to PMRs. In January of 2012 or so I sent a note to IBMMAIN saying that that CEE3DMP was printing garbage and then S0C4ing. You can probably find my post if you search. At the urging of

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
I understand Charles' attitude fully and respect it; it's driven by the experiences he made in the past. I for myself have made other experiences, and so for the moment I (still) act differently, but that is subject to change in the future, too. I would like to tell you about a talk I had with

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
Charles, First let me apologize if it seemed I was beating you up. That was not my intent. Unfortunately in email the reader cannot always determine how the words are being said. It was more of a help a vendor out type commentary. Not do it or else type commentary. But if I did offend - I

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread John McKown
Sounds almost like we work for the same company. It is all about cost, nothing about quality. This is why Wintel is the best thing in the market. On Jul 28, 2013 9:07 AM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de wrote: I understand Charles' attitude fully and respect it; it's driven by the

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Charles Mills
No, no, no offense taken at all. I am harder to offend than that! Was using beat up in jest. Longer reply to follow. Charles Composed on a mobile: please excuse my brevity Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Charles, First let me apologize if it seemed I was beating you up. That

Re: VISARA Consoles FICON Get 505, 510

2013-07-28 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 7/28/2013 3:11 AM, George Henke wrote: We have learned that the Visara FICON product has only 5 customers and has been available for only since Jan 1. This looks and feels more like beta testing, the bleeding edge, than implementation of a real product, The omission of ESCON from the zEC12

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 51f3e14d.20...@t-online.de, on 07/27/2013 at 05:03 PM, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de said: don't know for C, but for problems or questions concerning the PL/1 compiler, IBM support was always very responsive and helpful. That's my experience, at least. My experience is that the

Re: Blame the COBOL, how clich é

2013-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1374866532.66930.yahoomail...@web141705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on 07/26/2013 at 12:22 PM, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com said: Of course that particular issue is not specific to any one programming language... Nor is an accumulation of sloppy undocumented cruft limited to computer

Re: Using multiple protocols in NJE with JES2 and JES3

2013-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 51f2e5c1.60...@tonesoft.com, on 07/26/2013 at 02:10 PM, John Szura j...@tonesoft.com said: I am new to NJE and I am confused. The manuals for each JES indicate that you can use a mix of protocols (BSC, SNA and TCP/IP). However, a JES2 system has only one OWNNODE and JES3 has only one home

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3399683725614169.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/27/2013 at 02:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Thinking back on the recent SR Policy thread which I started, and to which you contributed, should the customer entertain the question, ...let me know what impact

Re: Establishing and using Unix file system and USS under z/OS

2013-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6352403710528873.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/27/2013 at 01:42 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Of course there are two orthogonal scales of value that can be applied here: o Make the product comfortable to those accustomed to Perl. o Make the product

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 001001ce8b97$9def20a0$d9cd61e0$@mcn.org, on 07/28/2013 at 09:37 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Here was the first battle I had to fight. The program in question is a STC that installs exits and so I implemented Signal handling so that in the event of a problem it could shut down

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Steve Comstock
Excellent work Bernd! -Steve Comstock On 7/27/2013 10:07 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: I was able to reproduce the problem with a little test program: #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h static void longtest (long long lwert) { int test; test = lwert 0xLL; if (test

Re: Looking for help with an obscure C integer problem

2013-07-28 Thread Charles Mills
Lizette tells me offline that I have beat this topic up enough :-) so this will probably be my last post in this thread. I wanted just to address two things: - The cost/benefit decision was mine alone. My employer would certainly support me if I decided to PMR the problem. - Yes, the decision to

Re: Establishing and using Unix file system and USS under z/OS

2013-07-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 09:40:43 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: o Make the product comfortable to those accustomed to Perl. o Make the product comfortable to those accustomed to MVS. In other contexts, I've referred to the options as horizontal and vertical consistency. ... I pondered

Re: VISARA Consoles FICON Get 505, 510

2013-07-28 Thread Ron Wells
Dummy question but what about OSC's still valid for Console support? From: Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/28/2013 11:14 AM Subject:Re: VISARA Consoles FICON Get 505, 510 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List