Re: ISPF statistics

2013-10-31 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
It's certainly possible to have DSORG=PS,RECFM=U data set that does not contain load modules. I've used them. I believe it's also possible to have DSORG=PO,DSNTYPE=PDS,RECFM=U with content other than load modules, but ISPF refuses to recognize this fact. I don't know whether

Re: Notification of New Function APARs

2013-10-31 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Have someone been able to find the file with old NewFunction Apars mentioned on the last page of the document? My search always ends with no document. Obtaining Older New Function APAR Numbers Once you have a subscription for all the future New Function APARs, you may want to see the prior New

Re: Notification of New Function APARs

2013-10-31 Thread Ron kristel
Me neither.. however; It was actually able to find it on the actual Announcements page: http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS5188 Best regards, Ronald Kristel Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 08:04:50 +0100 From: werner.kueh...@mannheimer.de Subject: Re:

Re: Cpc name variable in IEASYMxx

2013-10-31 Thread Jorge Garcia
Thanks Peter and Richard: Finally we've customized this IEASYMxx member: SYSDEF HWNAME(P007ED2A) /* CPC MAJADAHONDA */ |--- Main site SYMDEF(HWNAME='ED2A') /* CPU HARDWARE NAME */ | SYMDEF(SITE='HWNAME(-2:2)')/* MEMBERS

APA ( Application Performance Analyzer) and DB2 question

2013-10-31 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi If someone has experience with APA and DB2,as currently seems to me, the APA DB2 interface not working (no any DB2 measurement) , and no any error message about this. We are now z/OS 1.13 DB2 V10.0 and APA 7.1 -- Kind regards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Miklos Szigetvari Research

Re: ObamaCare Web Site Problems

2013-10-31 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:04:09 +0800, David Crayford wrote: ... And then compare it to www.ibm.com Now that's just cruel - IBM continually demonstrate their inability to maintain websites. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: ISPF statistics

2013-10-31 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-...@gmx.net Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISPF statistics It's certainly possible to have DSORG=PS,RECFM=U data set that

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-31 Thread Peter Relson
I suspect that every product that exploits zIIPs already does this. Vendors cannot count on zIIPs being installed at customer locations. If no zIIPs are available, the work must run in TCB mode. Vendor products can't just terminate if zIIPs aren't available. /end extract I suspect the

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-31 Thread Bob Shannon
I suspect the opposite, since it is not true that if no zIIPs are available, the work must run in TCB mode. Bob must have been thinking of something else. That is correct. I zoned out. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: How annoying - no way to get CALL to generate only address when SYSSTATE ASCENV=AR

2013-10-31 Thread Peter Relson
Hey, I do not need ALETs in the plist. Interesting. Over 25 years late to the party (this support was introduced in the 80's). And didn't need the call macro to overlay data following the plist. It doesn't seem right to blame the macro for correctly implementing its long-existing rule that

Re: ObamaCare Web Site Problems

2013-10-31 Thread Staller, Allan
AGREED! (in spades) snip From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ObamaCare Web Site Problems On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:04:09 +0800, David Crayford wrote: ...

Re: ISPF statistics

2013-10-31 Thread Thomas Conley
Does anyone have an answer for my second question: How does the version in the pdf statistics get incremented (other than by some form of the VERSION command)? Barbara Barbara, The version is usually updated by EDIT, you'll see the current version listed in the title line on the edit

Re: APA ( Application Performance Analyzer) and DB2 question

2013-10-31 Thread Ken Hume IBM
Hello Miklos, APA V7 went out of support late in 2009 when V10 went GA. We are currently at APA V13. Is there a chance you could upgrade APA? Feel free to send me an email at kph...@us.ibm.com if you have questions. Ken Hume Product Manager, Application Performance Analyzer z/OS AD Tools

AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Knigge
Ah. just one more note. As 64 Bit Versions of Windows are not able to run 16 Bit Executables any more, you may want to give DOSBox (http://www.dosbox.com/) a try if you really can't live without the ancient SPF/PRO or whatever (I assume these old applications are 16 Bit applications -

Re: AW: [slightly] off topic: SPFPRO on Win 8.1

2013-10-31 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-10-31 13:46, Michael Knigge pisze: Ah. just one more note. As 64 Bit Versions of Windows are not able to run 16 Bit Executables any more, you may want to give DOSBox (http://www.dosbox.com/) a try if you really can't live without the ancient SPF/PRO or whatever (I assume

Re: DISPLAY TCPIP,,NETSTAT help

2013-10-31 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN wrote: Maybe Ed McMahon would have said it better. Who is he/it? I don't recall his/it name here on IBM-MAIN. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: DISPLAY TCPIP,,NETSTAT help

2013-10-31 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2013-10-31 10:32, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Maybe Ed McMahon would have said it better. Who is he/it? I don't recall his/it name here on IBM-MAIN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_McMahon -- -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation)

Re: Linux on System z (IFL) and Spares

2013-10-31 Thread Mike Schwab
I think IFLs run about 10% of a full speed CP processor. So it doesn't take too much to make them cost effective. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:02 PM, adarsh khanna adarshkha...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Timothy.I get it. IFL costing across models is more to do with marketing and product

Re: Linux on System z (IFL) and Spares

2013-10-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 October 2013 22:24, adarsh khanna adarshkha...@yahoo.com wrote: Does the cost of adding an IFL different on different machines e.g. 2817 compared to 2098. If yes why? as it is just characterization of a core. You can just as well say that the difference between a CP and an IFL is just

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-31 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: deleted Not denigrating anybodies efforts, merely seeking some clarity in a field left deliberately murky by the major vendor. They will give you the details. After you sign a non-disclosure agreement and write a check.

Re: Is there currently a way to access MongoDB from z/OS LE languages?

2013-10-31 Thread Tony Harminc
On 31 October 2013 01:35, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: Shmuel Metz writes: ...z/OS does require EBCDIC. It does not (if referring to ported applications), and repeating a falsehood does not make it any more true. EBCDIC support is required if and only if there is a requirement

Re: DISPLAY TCPIP,,NETSTAT help

2013-10-31 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Gord Tomlin wrote: Maybe Ed McMahon would have said it better. Who is he/it? I don't recall his/it name here on IBM-MAIN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_McMahon Thanks very much! I have learned something new about an entertainer... ;-) At least he seemed to be a better guy than that McMahon

Re: Linux on System z (IFL) and Spares

2013-10-31 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:38 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: He said I think IFLs run about 10% of a full speed CP processor. So it doesn't take too much to make them cost effective. I think he meant 10% of the price, not the speed. There's a maintenance charge for that IFL too. -- David

Re: ObamaCare Web Site Problems

2013-10-31 Thread Scott Ford
Doug, I don't how much your insurance is but I can tell you in NJ, it ain't cheap over $1000 a mth for 3 ppl Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Oct 30, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Doug Fuerst d...@bkassociates.net wrote: How is that? That:

Re: DISPLAY TCPIP,,NETSTAT help

2013-10-31 Thread Scott Ford
Dave, Try a D TCPIP,TCPIP,n,sock ...that's if ur TCPIP STCname is tcpip. You will see the waits, we see that on our system..while tcpip cleanups up the sessions Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Oct 31, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Hansen, Dave

Re: IBM 3584 tape library error

2013-10-31 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1298857 Have you tried a cleaning tape? On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Pommier, Rex rpomm...@sfgmembers.com wrote: Hi, We have an IBM 3584 library. The front panel display is showing error B282. The maintenance manual that we got with the

Preventing the deletion of unreferenced strings by optimizing compilers

2013-10-31 Thread John Gilmore
I wanted to test my notion before presenting it, and it does turn out that embedding an unreferenced value in a structure (COBOL record) at least one other element of which is referenced in an executable statement ensures that that structure will not be deleted. A PL/I example declare 1

HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread David G. Schlecht
HSM is intermittently failing to backup new datasets. I suspect that someone/something is resetting the changed or archive bit on the dataset before HSM gets to it. Can anyone tell me how I can view the state of the changed bit on a dataset? Furthermore, I’m only guessing but I would hope that

Re: Preventing the deletion of unreferenced strings by optimizing compilers

2013-10-31 Thread Joel C. Ewing
This certainly seems like a reasonable behavior for an optimizing compiler, but does the formal PL/I semantics demand the behavior you have observed or is this just the current implementation behavior? If this behavior is not formalized in language semantics, does that not allow a more

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread Staller, Allan
My 1st suspect would be df/dss. There is an option to set/reset the change bit. HSM also had an option to reset change bit on dump. Check the fine manuals. Couple of old programs on the CBTAPE can show the state of this bit. (DASD? Not sure which file this is in.) HTH, snip HSM is

Re: Preventing the deletion of unreferenced strings by optimizing compilers

2013-10-31 Thread Charles Mills
I suppose one might increase the likelihood of non-optimization by putting the dummy field AFTER the copyright string. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:55 AM To:

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread David G. Schlecht
These are DASD datasets. I have, indeed, read the 180,000+ pages of HSM and other systems manuals and I'm sure the one reference is in there somewhere. :-) I've Googled this and searched the IBM-MAIN archives, too, but no joy. I've looked at the layout of the VVDS, thinking it would be

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread Pommier, Rex
Check the VTOC instead of the VVDS. I found this on an APAR. DFSMShsm will be changed to reset the DS1DSCHA bit to OFF in the format-1 DSCB of each volume the data set resides on during backup processing. This solution applies only to nonVSAM data sets. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Preventing the deletion of unreferenced strings by optimizing compilers

2013-10-31 Thread John Gilmore
The VDL formalization of PL/I does not guarantee this behavior. I am not, however, at all fearful that some optimizer may behave differently, at least for long. There is an old understanding common to scientific and business programming that aggregates, arrays and structures|records, are likely

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread Pommier, Rex
DFP advanced services is where you'll find it documented, but I don't know how to report it out. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread Bob Rutledge
David G. Schlecht wrote: HSM is intermittently failing to backup new datasets. I suspect that someone/something is resetting the changed or archive bit on the dataset before HSM gets to it. Can anyone tell me how I can view the state of the changed bit on a dataset? Look at the bits in

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread Mike Schwab
1. ADRDSSU used to turn off the changed bit after a volume backup by default. It has been changed to not be the default but can be selected by a used. 2. Management class field Backup Required value no allows a dataset to migrate before being backed up. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:51 PM, David G.

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread Pommier, Rex
David, It ain't pretty, but you can do an IEHLIST of the VTOC in DUMP format. The byte at offset 93 is where you will find the DS1CHIND bit (bit ..1.). One thing to remember is the dump portion of the listing actually starts at offset 44 of the format1 DSCB. Rex On Thu, Oct 31, 2013

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread David G. Schlecht
Wonderful! Thanks, Rex. David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional State of Nevada | Department of Administration | Enterprise IT Services T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@admin.nv.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM 3584 tape library error

2013-10-31 Thread Pommier, Rex
Found it. One of the grabbers failed. The CE showed me where the error code is cleverly hidden in the maintenance manual. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:29 AM To:

Re: Preventing the deletion of unreferenced strings by optimizing compilers

2013-10-31 Thread Kirk Wolf
FWIW, in z/OS C/C++, you can use #pragma comment copyright - http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r13/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r13.cbclx01%2Fpragma_comment.htm Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com --

Testing SyncSort exit using TSO TEST

2013-10-31 Thread Micheal Butz
Hi, I am trying to test a SyncSort exit using TSO TEST. The exit is not re-entrant if I load the exit under TEST would SyncSort first Check the Jpa to see if the exit was already loaded. Thanks Sent from my iPhone -- For

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread Jonathan Goossen
You can see the state of the changed flag in ISMF option 1. It is column 24. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, DTM ACT Mainframe Storage Group Personal: 651-361-4541 Department Support Line: 651-361- For help with verbal communication and leadership skills checkout

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread Pommier, Rex
Easier than chasing an unformatted IEHLIST! Thanks, Jonathan, Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Goossen Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM and changed

Assembling SHOWMVS errors

2013-10-31 Thread John Norgauer
I am trying to assemble SHOWMVS and am getting lots of undefined op codes. This is my SYSLIB concatenation: //SYSLIB DD DSN=SYS1.MACLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.AMACLIB,DISP=SHR // DD DSN=SYS1.AMODGEN,DISP=SHR Anything else needed in SYSLIB? Thanks John Norgauer Senior

Re: Assembling SHOWMVS errors

2013-10-31 Thread Alan Field
You need the MACLIB that is distributed with SHOWZOS. Alan Field Technical Engineer Principal BCBS Minnesota Phone: 651.662.3546 Mobile: 651.428.8826 From: John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 10/31/2013 16:19 Subject:

Re: HSM and changed or archive bit

2013-10-31 Thread David G. Schlecht
Yes, indeed, that is much easier. Also, mentally parsing out the TSO LISTDS LABEL output is an easy one-step, now that I know what bit I'm looking for. Thanks, everyone, for your input. BTW, reading the docs for this bit is less than helpful. Two bits in the DSCB seem likely candidates but

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-31 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/31/2013 5:53 AM, Martin Packer wrote: Ed, do you do some kind of simple cost to start up vs saving swag when deciding whether to do this? Yes. We are measuring to determine the break even points that work best for us and hope they extrapolate to our customers. During ESP, we might ask

Re: Assembling SHOWMVS errors

2013-10-31 Thread John Gilmore
Take a look at the lengths of the undefined opcodes too. It is just possible---not, I suspect, very likely---that you are using the wrong opcodes table. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Assembling SHOWMVS errors

2013-10-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
The sample from the CBTTAPE should have all of the concatenations. You did not include the SHOWMVS dataset in the SYSLIB Check out the member called SHOWJCL - it has everything there //SYSLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MACLIB // DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MODGEN //* OS/390 (R6) and below //* If

Re: Assembling SHOWMVS errors

2013-10-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
PS. I find that reading the member called @FILE492.txt always helpful. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Assembling SHOWMVS errors

2013-10-31 Thread John Norgauer
Thanks all for the pointers. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 1651 Alhambra Blvd Suite 200 Sacramento, Ca 95816 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-10-31 Thread Al Sherkow
My analysis uses SMF data and is based only on public documentation of the SMF data. I have to explain my analysis to customers and clients so anything I might know under NDA is not useful in those circumstances. If some vendor(s), as Ed wrote are using CPU and it is not marked as zXXP

Re: Linux on System z (IFL) and Spares

2013-10-31 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/31/2013 7:42 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: I think IFLs run about 10% of a full speed CP processor. So it doesn't take too much to make them cost effective. Specialty engines always run at full speed. THAT's what makes them cost effective... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International,

Re: Linux on System z (IFL) and Spares

2013-10-31 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/31/2013 10:31 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 10/31/2013 7:42 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: I think IFLs run about 10% of a full speed CP processor. So it doesn't take too much to make them cost effective. Specialty engines always run at full speed. THAT's what makes them cost effective... Oops.