Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239984/OpenVMS_R.I.P._1977_2020_ On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Scott Ford wrote: > I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or > is it's own thang > > Scott ford > www.identityforg

Re: Base-less programming

Fines are serious pain, worked in banking , every minute the SDLC line was down to the Fed. The bank was being fine $$$ ..per min, it gives all new meaning to pressure, oh yeah John, I hear you have been there when it's ugly Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom thr

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

Gil, Your correct it's an idiom..slang...more or less...in 3 yrs in Switzerland I learned I needed a better accent to speak French and Swiss German and don't ask for items in French in a Swiss German canton or State..it ain't pretty Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdo

U.S. bill "patent troll" bill passes the House.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/government/patent-troll-bill-clears-house-huge-majority-232218 This _sounds_ good to me. But I ASSuME that they have written something reasonable. OOPS, my bad. -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! <>< John M

Re: Base-less programming

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM, zMan wrote: > Ouch. SO true. > Yes. In this same vein, but a bit more seriously, why don't we start using RI-programming (for Relative & Immediate) or RelImm-programming. Because there is _no_ way that I can think of to write _useful_ code which does not use at le

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

Tony Harminc wrote: >Unfortunately that takes me to https://www.google.ca, which doesn't >seem to have a "search tools" choice. I can force Google to go to the >.com (i.e. US) site, but it's still HTTPS, and it still has no search >tools that I can see. And merely quoting a phrase doesn't (contrary

Re: Base-less programming

Ouch. SO true. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > I've seen a lot of baseless programming in my life. Had no idea you were > talking about registers in assembler. > > Charles > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.E

Re: "NSA foils much internet encryption"

On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:19:55 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >Microsoft finally woke up. > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/05/microsoft-u-s-government-is-a-potential-security-threat/ > >Microsoft is trying to change the terms of the NSA debate � literally. > >The company is la

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 07:34:48 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Literal translation would be "that goes", ca va is a shortened "comment ca >va", ie how goes it(that)?. OK would be ca va bien. Without bien it's >meaningless in the context. Bien would be the OK piece, ie fine > Think "idiom". Firs

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

Gil and R.S., I was curious about VMS because I haven't worked on that platform. Worked many others in a past life supporting LU 6.2 file transfer on 26 platforms. But that was like a lifetime ago. I went from OS/VS2 to VSE to VM/VSE , then MVS so I feel your pain Gil Scott ford www.identit

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes: > And an alien once asked me, "VM is a version of MVS, isn't it?" cms had about 64kbytes of code that was the "os" simulator that allowed "os" compilers and many applications to run unmodified. the burlington mall vm370 development group was working o

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

W dniu 2013-12-05 19:38, Scott Ford pisze: I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or is it's own thang In simple words: No. VMS is similar to ...VMS, and maybe older DEC systems which I don't know (RSX-11 AFAIR). Few concepts of VMS: Unix has single root, VM

Re: CoD On/Off (capacity on demand) question

Yes. When you request to add capacity on the HMC you are presented with a list of all increments from your base up to the maximum CoD. Last year we made our 509 a 510, then a 512 and back to a 511. Alan Field Technical Engineer Principal BCBS Minnesota Phone: 651.662.3546 Mobile: 651.428.8826

Re: "NSA foils much internet encryption"

Microsoft finally woke up. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/05/microsoft-u-s-government-is-a-potential-security-threat/ Microsoft is trying to change the terms of the NSA debate — literally. The company is labeling any government effort to spy on its online communication

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

Yep..but on Switzerland French shall we say interesting like the Swiss German Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' > On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > > Literal translation would be "that goes", ca va is a shortened "commen

Re: "NSA foils much internet encryption"

Why did the NSA even bother to get a internet tap, when they could have just re-routed packets through their servers? (Maybe the extra delay is causing our messages to be re-sent creating duplicate messages?) http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/12/bgp-hijacking-belarus-iceland/ Earlier this ye

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

Literal translation would be "that goes", ca va is a shortened "comment ca va", ie how goes it(that)?. OK would be ca va bien. Without bien it's meaningless in the context. Bien would be the OK piece, ie fine On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > Hey zMan, > > I entered 'ca v

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:38:46 -0500, Scott Ford wrote: >I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or >is it's own thang > What's "*nix like"? On a cursory brush, I believe VMS has a hierarchic filesystem. That's *nix like. It doesn't have an ALLOCATE command. Tha

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or is it's own thang Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' > On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:57 PM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" > wrote: > > In <1mhu99pv4m3ki96ug6d0g46nb44j1bc...@

CoD On/Off (capacity on demand) question

Technical question about CoD: I have 706 machine with CoD contract. That means I can temporarily upgrade it do 712 (up to 100% actually, 712 is <100%, nevermind). Of course the more CPs activated the more money is to paid. On resourcelink I generate an Order - electronic record. I specify orde

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: > In > , > on 12/04/2013 >at 11:09 AM, John McKown said: > > >NVT? > > See TELNET PROTOCOL SPECIFICATION, RFC 854. > Thanks. I am not any kind of expert, but the "otelnetd" UNIX daemon that I menti

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

Kees, It prevents nothing if the horses have already left the barn (if he has already hit his peak for the month). Now if Suresh can tell us that he is tracking the four-hour rolling average and knows that his workload definitely increases on the first of the month, then perhaps his idea has me

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

Suresh said the question was anwered. I think we are creating complicating situations that ask for even more complicated solutions. I thing lowering MSUs on the 1st of the month and raising the MSUs on the 2nd, simply prevents unintended billing problems, without having to care about (un)controlle

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

And then, of course, those pesky end-users do billion row queries all at the same time and your peaks get set higher than normal. Suresh, take a look at potentially using group capacity coupled with lpar-level defined capacity. See if that combination gives you the level of control you are look

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

Depending, of course, on whether you have cyclic workload peaks and where during the month they fall. For example, if all your hottest 4-hour averages are consistently during the last week of the month, then typically the effect of changes will only be seen when you encounter that cyclic peak and

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

In <1mhu99pv4m3ki96ug6d0g46nb44j1bc...@4ax.com>, on 12/04/2013 at 11:16 AM, Clark Morris said: >What was the VMS facility like? Part of the naming syntax was a version number, and there was a command to control how many versions of a specific file to retain. If you omitted the version number

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

In , on 12/04/2013 at 07:46 AM, Phil Smith said: >Well, common sense would suggest >www.google.com. Common sense is frequently wrong. >Try that. BTDT,GTS -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

In , on 12/04/2013 at 11:09 AM, John McKown said: >NVT? See TELNET PROTOCOL SPECIFICATION, RFC 854. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Sh

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

In , on 12/04/2013 at 10:09 AM, John Gilmore said: >We're not dealing with what Google wishes to "honor", Of course we are. >We're dealing with the problem of resolving semantic ambiguity, No. We're dealing with a web page that has labels that do not correspond with what the search engine

Re: Has anyone measured CPU savings using external SORT's vs. internal (COBOL) SORT's?

A bit late to the discussion but did the O.P. consider REPLACING the COBOL code with a pure DFSORT / ICETOOL implementation? That MIGHT remove duplicate data moves. Such a process a customer and I worked together on last week took a 200 minute job and made it run in 10 minutes. YMMV. :-) Cheer

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

Thanks Vernooij. That answers the qn. Cheers On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: > Suresh, > > Maybe Mike went home, so I will answer your question: > IBM will always charge the peak of the month, no matter how you changed > the MSUs during the month. > So if you can d

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

Suresh, Maybe Mike went home, so I will answer your question: IBM will always charge the peak of the month, no matter how you changed the MSUs during the month. So if you can delay adding MSUs until the second of the next month, they will not be charged in the current month. Also if you plan to lo