Re: IEFUTL Woes

2017-04-15 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017, at 18:05, Andrew Metcalfe wrote: > For reasons best left unspoken, I need to cause a TSO user’s screen to > “lock” after the SMF TWT time has expired. The user then has to > re-authenticate by supplying their RACF password. If they haven’t > unlocked their screen after another

How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Minoru Massaki
Hello I'm looking for a way to set Non-zero return code in DFSORT, when record count of SORTOUT is not zero. I know that setting non-zero return code when SORTOUT record count is zero. Your help would be highly appreciated. -- 全先 実 - Minoru Massaki (M*M) E-mail: mmass...@gmail.com ---

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Minoru Massaki > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 8:03 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: How can I set Non-zero

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is this a stand alone sort, or a program invoked sort? Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 8:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How can I set N

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Minoru Massaki
There are two large tape volume list files, master and transaction files, and key is volume serial(VOLSER). No duplicate VOLSER is in the files (master as well as transaction). I have to check whether all volumes in the master is processed or not by the transaction file. If there is no transaction

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Minoru Massaki
This is a stand alone sort. Minoru Massaki - (M*M) 2017-04-16 0:13 GMT+09:00 Lizette Koehler : > Is this a stand alone sort, or a program invoked sort? > > Lizette > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > > Behalf Of Lizette

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would say, no, you cannot have DFSORT do something like this. I am not seeing anything the DFSORT manuals from IBM to allow the user to force DFSORT to set codes other than it is already doing. Better to wrap you process with something that can set the RC you want. I sometimes pass output fr

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Charles Mills
Pretty trivial to write Rexx to set a return code based on file empty/Not empty. CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity. Original message From: Lizette Koehler Date: 4/15/17 12:58 PM (GMT-04:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How can I set Non-zero re

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Minoru Massaki, It is quite simple to set a return code using COUNT operator. Here are a couple of ways setting the RC=4 . You can also set RC8 and RC12 too. //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL //TOOLMSG DD SYSOUT=* //DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=* //IN DD * A //TOOLIN DD * COUNT FROM(IN) NOTEMPT

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:00:57 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >Minoru Massaki, > >It is quite simple to set a return code using COUNT operator. Here are a >couple of ways setting the RC=4 . You can also set RC8 and RC12 too. > >//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL >//TOOLMSG DD SYSOUT=* >//DFSMSG DD SYSOU

Re: IEFUTL Woes

2017-04-15 Thread Andy Wood
On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:51:58 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: >On Fri, 14 Apr 2017, at 18:05, Andrew Metcalfe wrote: ... > >Ages ago I worked in an installation that allowed TSO users to get one >extension to >the timeout provided they themselves locked their screens. The program >that did >it iss

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Charles Mills
I stand by my statement that it would be easy to write Rexx to do this. I don't pretend to be a DFSORT expert. If DFSORT has this as a native capability too, that's terrific. Might I respectfully suggest that your documentation could use some work, if neither the OP nor the diligent @Lizette could

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>>Hmm, Sri, did we forget about the NULLOUT Parm/OPTION? :-)> Dale, NULLOUT is used to set a return code when there are NO records. OP wanted the opposite. He wants to set a return code when he has at least 1 record, so that it would trigger his additional processing. >>Might I respectfully

Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread Phil Smith
Today's random wondering: how many operating systems can folks remember having run on S/360 and descendants? I can think of: OS/360 (including MFT, MVT, MVS, up thru z/OS, including MSP and VOS3) VM (CP/40 up thru z/VM) DOS (or did it start as TOS? Not my turf! up thru z/VSE) ACP (up thru z/TPF)

Question About Associated Recovery Routines

2017-04-15 Thread esst...@juno.com
Hi, . I'm looking for a good example Of an Associated Recovery Routine to be used as with a PC Stacking Routine. . I have read some Share Presentations and of course the standard IBM Publications, but have not been able to locate a good sample Associated Recovery Routine for PC Stacking Routine

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Charles Mills
@Kolusu, I know how hard good documentation is. I have not looked at your documentation -- I am just citing the empirical evidence that the OP and @Lizette did not find the answer. I am guessing the OP framed the original question as "how do I set a specific RC" and that is the sort of thing he s

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread Field, Alan
Ran PCP on a 360/40 with home grown time sharing we called TSOS Alan Field Systems Engineer Principal Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN 651.662.3546 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:18:03 -0400, Charles Mills wrote: >@Kolusu, I know how hard good documentation is. I have not looked at your >documentation -- I am just citing the empirical evidence that the OP and >@Lizette did not find the answer. > >I am guessing the OP framed the original question as "

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes: > Today's random wondering: how many operating systems can folks remember > having run on S/360 and descendants? I can think of: > > OS/360 (including MFT, MVT, MVS, up thru z/OS, including MSP and VOS3) > VM (CP/40 up thru z/VM) > DOS (or did it start as TOS?

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread John P. Baker
Phil, BOS/360 (predecessor to DOS), TOS/360, TSS/360, RTOS/360, MTS, DPPX/370, and UTS (Amdahl UNIX) should be added to your list. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>I am guessing the OP framed the original question as "how do I set a specific RC" and that is the sort of thing he searched for. Charles, "How do I" questions cannot be answered in application programming guide. We have Smart DFSORT tricks page which shows you clever ways to use DFSORT and

Re: How can I set Non-zero return code in DFSORT when SORTOUT record count is not zero

2017-04-15 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>>In this case an ideal search would be "NOTEMPTY" or "EMPTY" and "how do I". My apologies. I was missing a NOT in the statement. Please read it as In this case an ideal search would be "NOTEMPTY" or "EMPTY" and NOT "how do I". Thanks, Kolusu DFSORT Development IBM Mainframe Discussion Li

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread Phil Smith
John P. Baker wrote: >BOS/360 (predecessor to DOS), TOS/360, TSS/360, RTOS/360, MTS, DPPX/370, and >UTS (Amdahl UNIX) should be added to your list. Ah, UTS. Forgot that one! DPPX/370 is its own thing; sounds like BOS and TOS, and ?maybe RTOS? should go in the VSE bucket, no? TSS, yeah, forgot tha

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread Tony Harminc
On 15 April 2017 at 17:27, Phil Smith wrote: > > What others? No credit for things like DDR or ICKDSF, which, while IPLable, > aren't really "OSes" in any kind of real sense! Maybe even closer to the line are GCS (under VM/370's and later CP only, but could in theory run standalone with some mod

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes: > Ah, UTS. Forgot that one! DPPX/370 is its own thing; sounds like BOS > and TOS, and ?maybe RTOS? should go in the VSE bucket, no? TSS, yeah, > forgot that one, too! re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017d.html#75 Mainframe operating system? After Houston, man

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread Anthony Fletcher
I was the SYSPROG in its later stages before moving on to TSO using TCAM which was a disaster to start with. TSOS supported 1 mainframe stream, 2 X2260 sessions and 2X2741 sessions. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Field

Re: Mainframe operating systems?

2017-04-15 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Anthony Fletcher wrote: I was the SYSPROG in its later stages Did anyone in the audience shout PICK yet? -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine

Re: Mainframe operating systems? PICK?

2017-04-15 Thread Anthony Fletcher
We did run PICK for a while, but it was in an LPAR - does that count as running as an operating system? It was a port so had to be compiled or assembled (whatever that process was called). That part happened so fast that the tester thought that it must have abended - but it hadn't. I think whoever

Re: Question About Associated Recovery Routines

2017-04-15 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:06:39 GMT "esst...@juno.com" wrote: :>I'm looking for a good example Of an Associated Recovery Routine to :>be used as with a PC Stacking Routine. . :>I have read some Share Presentations and of course the standard IBM :>Publications, but have not been able to locate a g