Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:32:31 -0500, John McKown wrote: >On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >> >> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/ >> com.ibm.zos.v2r2.izua700/izuprog_API_StartApp.htm > >​Interesting. But that starts a TSO address space via the ZOSMF

Re: Help needed: SYNCSORT issue with OUTFIL CONVERT

2017-10-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Replying to my own post based on subsequent experiments. The answer to my question is "Yes, you MUST specify EXACTLY "LRECL" bytes of output for each line generated by the OUTREC parameter for an FB output file". Annoying to have to count characters and add "nnX," at the end of each generated

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Steve Smith
Being Friday, this is obligatory: https://xkcd.com/1172/ sas On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Jim Mulder wrote: ... The ESP customer was very insistent that we change the > implementation to default to old behavior, with a documented option in > DIAGxx to request new behavior. ... -

Sharing z/OS certificates

2017-10-27 Thread Michael Babcock
I’m trying to implement AT-TLS for otelnet on z/OS 2.2. I want to share TN3270U’s personal certificate. PAGENT is up and running. BPXROOT is assigned to otelnet. AT-TLS has its own Keyring and TN3270U’s personal cert has been connected. PAGENT owns the AT-TLS Keyring. It won’t connect sayin

Re: Batch TSO command (ADDUSER) tracing and diagnostics

2017-10-27 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 27 October 2017 at 13:06, John McKown > wrote: > > > > > ​Coming in a bit sideways on this, and from another thread entirely. If I > > wanted to do z/OS RACF work when I'm logged into a CICS region (though I > > don't know why), then I th

Re: Batch TSO command (ADDUSER) tracing and diagnostics

2017-10-27 Thread Tony Harminc
On 27 October 2017 at 13:06, John McKown wrote: > > ​Coming in a bit sideways on this, and from another thread entirely. If I > wanted to do z/OS RACF work when I'm logged into a CICS region (though I > don't know why), then I think use the zOSMF REST API would be a much better > way to go. This

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Lizzette, I just checked some parms from my last shop that was a very large DB2 shop, 6 LPARS and we had USEZOSV1R9RULES( NO) set BMC - CONTROL-X product suite - no issues at all . hth's some Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lizette Koehler" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent

Help needed: SYNCSORT issue with OUTFIL CONVERT

2017-10-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I am processing a VB input file with MMDD dates that I need to use to create a set of JCL to execute an application process for each unique date. SYNCSORT is giving me "SORTOUT HAS INCOMPATIBLE LRECL" but i do not understand why. I am trying to use the OUTFIL CONVERT parameter to generate

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
FWIW, the service that z/OSMF uses for starting TSO address spaces is: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.ieac100/cea-intro.htm Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 10/27/2017

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Carmen Vitullo
So, my question is, are there any repercussions changing to USEZOSV1R9RULES( NO) for shop running, lets say z/OS 2.2 + all OEM products up to date with compatibility? we're not a large DB2 shop be most of our workload is DB2, DB2 data sharing in a 3 system sysplex. any recommendations? I, we

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Jim Mulder
I implemented the VSM changes in z/OS 1.10. The original implementation used the new behavior by default, with an undocumented option in DIAGxx to allow a customer (under the direction of IBM support) to temporarily revert to the old behavior to bypass a latent bug in some application pro

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Pommier, Rex
we have the defaults, so VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(YES) MEMDSENQMGMT: DISABLE Rex - Original Message - From: "Lizette Koehler" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:36:02 AM Subject: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT Dear List

Re: Batch TSO command (ADDUSER) tracing and diagnostics

2017-10-27 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Jim Mulder wrote: > The TSO TMP is designed to be attached only by EXEC PGM=IKJEFTxx, > or by the TSO/E Session Manager (when Session Manager is the EXEC PGM= on > the logon proc). > Attaching the TMP by any other program is unsupported. > > Attaching the TMP

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Larre Shiller
Hi Lizette - I would say that we are a fairly large DB2 shop and we are using both of those functions... that is, USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO) and MEMDSENQMGMT(ENABLE) and we have been using them since they were first available. I think we may have opened a PMR for a problem that we initially had with

Re: Batch TSO command (ADDUSER) tracing and diagnostics

2017-10-27 Thread Jim Mulder
The TSO TMP is designed to be attached only by EXEC PGM=IKJEFTxx, or by the TSO/E Session Manager (when Session Manager is the EXEC PGM= on the logon proc). Attaching the TMP by any other program is unsupported. Attaching the TMP in an IMS dependent region or a CICS AOR will violate the Syst

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Steve Smith
I appears to me that some are confused by the clumsily named USZOSV1R9RULES option. Note that you have to set it to NO to get the new and wonderful behavior. I really think IBM needs to take some action to bring better awareness to their customer base of what the myriad function options "should"

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 10/27/2017 10:32 AM, John McKown wrote: z/OSMF (which we don't run). I was more thinking of a Java package/library which would run a TSO command in the invoker's address space..​ There are many ways to exfoliate a feline. This sorta thing has been my main interest for some years. JTOpen

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:36:02 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >Dear List - > >I have been reviewing some parms that have been around in z/OS for a few >years/decades? > >USEZOSV1R9RULES > >VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO|YES): YES causes GETMAIN and STORAGE OBTAIN behavior to >be unchanged from its historic

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 10/27/2017 10:07 AM, David Crayford wrote: > >> But I >> don't see any Java library to invoke a TSO command. ​ >> > > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/ > com.ibm.zos.v2r2.izua700/izuprog_API_StartApp.htm ​Int

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 10/27/2017 10:07 AM, David Crayford wrote: But I don't see any Java library to invoke a TSO command. ​ https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.izua700/izuprog_API_StartApp.htm -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way o

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Rob Schramm
Sure.. the JNI portion is unavoidable. But wouldn't it depend on what was being done?.. is the switch back and forth worse than the whole unit as regular Rexx. And doesn't the additional capabilities of being able to use Java / utilities add enough value? Rob Schramm On Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 12:0

Working copy of the CICS Global exit XMNOUT

2017-10-27 Thread Tracy Adams
Posting here and posting on the CICS-Listserv: Does anyone have a working copy of the CICS exit XMNOUT that would share? I just want to suppress SMF records from the QMSG transaction. TIA, Tracy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / s

Re: ICETOOL - Question regarding a statement in the ICETOOL Guide

2017-10-27 Thread George, William@FTB
Thanks Sri! I'll check this out. I have saved a link to the most recent DFSORT A.P.G. and looked at JOINKEYS. At first glance it seems somewhat daunting but I'll study it and try it out. Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On B

Re: ICETOOL - Question regarding a statement in the ICETOOL Guide

2017-10-27 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Bill, Here is a DFSORT JOINKEYS job which will give you the desired results similar to splice //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //INA DD * VICKY FRANK CARRIE HOLLY PAUL //INB DD * KAREN HOLLY CARRIE VICKY MARY //OUT12DD SYSOUT=* //OUT1 DD SYSOUT=*

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread David Crayford
On 28/10/2017 12:02 AM, John McKown wrote: On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Rob Schramm wrote: Has anyone looked or asked the NetRexx guys if there is a way to use TSO type of commands in NetRexx? ​I can't see any way to run a TSO command using NetRexx. But, in a more general sense, I don't

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Rob Schramm wrote: > Has anyone looked or asked the NetRexx guys if there is a way to use TSO > type of commands in NetRexx? > ​I can't see any way to run a TSO command using NetRexx. But, in a more general sense, I don't see any way to run a TSO command from a

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Carmen Vitullo
we have this also VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(YES) MEMDSENQMGMT: DISABLE Carmen - Original Message - From: "Lizette Koehler" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:36:02 AM Subject: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT Dear List -

Re: Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Edgington, Jerry
Lizette, We have USEZOSV1R9RULES=YES, but not sure about any effect on performance, because it has been setup for a while. MEMDSENQMGMT=DISABLED, so can't help with that one. Jerry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Li

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Rob Schramm
Has anyone looked or asked the NetRexx guys if there is a way to use TSO type of commands in NetRexx? Rob Schramm On Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 11:30 AM David Crayford wrote: > On 27/10/2017 11:18 PM, John McKown wrote: > >> Best post in this thread! We want a JIT for classic REXX so it can run > at >

Question on some z/OS Tuning Parms USEZOSV1R9RULES and MEMDSENQMGT

2017-10-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
Dear List - I have been reviewing some parms that have been around in z/OS for a few years/decades? USEZOSV1R9RULES VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO|YES): YES causes GETMAIN and STORAGE OBTAIN behavior to be unchanged from its historic behavior. NO causes GETMAIN and STORAGE OBTAIN behavior for user-regio

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread David Crayford
On 27/10/2017 11:18 PM, John McKown wrote: Best post in this thread! We want a JIT for classic REXX so it can run at speeds similar to compiled languages. ​I'd vote "for" that. Of course, the standard IBM response will be given: "How much are you willing to pay us to do that?" ​and "What do yo

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread David Crayford
Good point, but if you can reduce your REXX CPU using a JIT by at least a half you don't care about zIIP elibility. The same applies for using faster languages. On 27/10/2017 11:16 PM, Martin Packer wrote: And we didn't discuss zIIP-eligibility... ... It's a bit like compiling REXX... ... D

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:12 AM, David Crayford wrote: > On 27/10/2017 9:47 PM, Walt Farrell wrote: > >> Did we somehow arrive at a generalized requirement to be able to access >>> particular TSO/ISPF features from*other* programming languages that are >>> not REXX, in a discussion about JITs,

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Martin Packer
And we didn't discuss zIIP-eligibility... ... It's a bit like compiling REXX... ... Don't expect it to buy you much if the things being scripted are heavy compared to the things scripting them. Effectively the command processors are JNI. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Syst

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread David Crayford
On 27/10/2017 9:47 PM, Walt Farrell wrote: Did we somehow arrive at a generalized requirement to be able to access particular TSO/ISPF features from*other* programming languages that are not REXX, in a discussion about JITs, because of the functional utility some z/OS system programmers desire t

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 08:47:16 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: > >I think we arrived at this idea because someone suggested it would be nice if >the open-sourced JIT technology that started this thread could be applied to >REXX. Then someone else said we don't really need that, because NetREXX >fulfill

Re: TWS on ZOS Help / Educational Resources

2017-10-27 Thread Philippe TESSIER
Hi Len We didn't do this kind of migration in the pass but the engine can be adapted to ZEKE or other scheduler we don't see onetime. Our need is to have the brochure of the scheduler to migrate and a consultant with skill on ZEKE. Best Regards Philippe TESSIER >> >> What about Migrating fr

Re: Batch TSO command (ADDUSER) tracing and diagnostics

2017-10-27 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 07:39:00 +, Baguley, Nicholas: Absa wrote: >When you use PARM andonot SYSTSIN it doesn’t seem to ECHO input/command. I >tried it before posting so as not to incur wrath of LIST After John also confirmed that, I thought some more and realized that it probably works that

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:48:32 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: >Did we somehow arrive at a generalized requirement to be able to access >particular TSO/ISPF features from *other* programming languages that are >not REXX, in a discussion about JITs, because of the functional utility >some z/OS system

Re: TWS on ZOS Help / Educational Resources

2017-10-27 Thread Sasso, Leonard
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Re: CA1 to RMM conversion

2017-10-27 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/26/2017 8:21 PM, Longnecker, Dennis wrote: I miss CA-1. I found it much easier to use than RMM. I am constantly trying to remember how to find things in RMM that were so simple to find in CA-1. What I especially miss is the reporting in CA-1. They were so simple to create. I find th

Re: IBM open sources its JVM and JIT code

2017-10-27 Thread David Crayford
Agreed, that would be great. I've had a crack at porting ooRexx but the integration into TSO/ISPF was a major issue. Getting it to work outside of the z/OS UNIX file system is challenging as it doesn't use fopen(). It also uses threads which may interesting when running in TSO and especially IS

Re: Batch TSO command (ADDUSER) tracing and diagnostics

2017-10-27 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Hi Nick, As a way to avoid problems to begin with, does your routine first check to see if there is an existing user ID or group that matches the ID it is about to create, that the ID is syntactically correct, and that the default group exists? What RACF authority is the IMS address space using

Re: Batch TSO command (ADDUSER) tracing and diagnostics

2017-10-27 Thread Baguley, Nicholas: Absa
Hi List Wow - thanks for input List Lots of ideas , suggestions and questions. When you use PARM and not SYSTSIN it doesn’t seem to ECHO input/command. I tried it before posting so as not to incur wrath of LIST Walt - correct.. the userid of the mother task is not authorised to ADDUSER. The ATT