Re: FW: FW: TSO/E PROFILE PREFIX in z/OS 2.3

2018-03-05 Thread Mainframe Sysprog
Thankyou Lizette. I'll keep an eye on this APAR. Meanwhile, I opened a pmr with L2 to find out any other clues. They suggested me to check if we have any exits installed for user profile table (which I doubt, but I am not sure, I'll have to ask around from someone on this site - is there a way to

Re: Managing JESYSMSG size

2018-03-05 Thread Robin Atwood
Yes, after a fruitless search through the text units I found the flag in the RB. I will implement a configuration option so customers can turn off the allocation messages when doing initial check-outs or other operations involving large numbers of members. Thanks for the tip! Robin

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Brian Westerman
Tom As for adding keys to your software, yes, I believe it's a good thing, but you have to remember that simply locking up your software really, really tight is not a good solution. They idea is to balance protecting your software but not putting the screws in so tight that the client can't

FW: FW: TSO/E PROFILE PREFIX in z/OS 2.3

2018-03-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
FYI From: Marna Walle Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 12:00 PM To: Lizette Koehler Subject: Re: FW: TSO/E PROFILE PREFIX in z/OS 2.3  Hi Lizette, This is a defect.  OA55019 is the APAR taken for it. APAR= OA55019  SER=                            IN

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
BobL said: * I have to disagree on Compuware products. We have a bunch, and the License administration application works fine. We just go into the panels, set DR mode, and we're good for 14 (?) days. For us at least, it's a very workable solution for DR.* Spoken like a systems programmer!

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread David Boyes
> Back to the keys question, I've tried to figure out how to even have keys in > the application system. > Places that I've worked at, there have been times when getting paid for our > software or services has been difficult to collect, so what about keys ?? > Well, that becomes a challenge

Re: Feel free to reuse

2018-03-05 Thread Steve Horein
Received. Applied. Tested. Accepted. Thank you sir! :-) On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Robert Prins wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently I got this (slightly edited) email: > > > I recently got into MVS/IBM z via [edited out], and was thinking of > > writing about my

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I’m sympathetic to a vendor's need for keys. A (long gone) shop I worked in suffered the grab-and-run of a well-known product from its licensed location to an unlicensed one. Thanks to a rogue operator who I guess wanted to make his day to day job a little easier and figured out how to do a

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
That's the problem. If you give customer Source code, they can get around the key. The only thing I could think of, was to only deliver object to certain Batch and Online modules that never change. Sort of Black Box those modules. On the contract thingwell in our case at the time, it was a

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
Your right...my bad. Spelling is my crutch !!! Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of J R Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 4:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Product license key program I

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Grinsell, Don
Tom, I guess it all depends on your contract terms. If the software requires a key to run, then you should be able to get paid for delivering an updated key. If you are delivering source code, well any competent programmer could probably circumvent your key logic and be prepared to face the

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread J R
I apologize up front for my pedantry. However, in the context of this argument ... er ... discussion, it seems apropos: You typed 'incite' I think you meant 'insight'. You typed 'site' I think you meant 'cite' (twice). Peace! On Mar 5, 2018, at 16:02, Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Gibney, Dave
I run both. FDR/DSF/ABR and DF/DSS/HSM They're both useful in their own way. And Innovation is reasonably priced for our size. I once tried to migrate our HSM implementation to FDRABR's archive. I don't remember all the glitches, but it didn't handle expiration well enough and I

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
" OK, this discussion has reached the level of diminishing returns." Man, I guess sothis "was" a very interesting discussion about software keys that has dissolved quickly. Guys, I'm not a systems programmer, never have beenbut I'm kind of the Applications systems programmer if that

Actually www.ibm.com/us-en was Re: Connor Krukosky is on the Main Webpage at www.ibm.com

2018-03-05 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 5 Mar 2018 12:14:50 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: >I can select the ca-en page from the US. A corollary might be that you could >select us-en from Canada. I just overtyped the URL. That worked. Clark Morris > >Charles > > >-Original

Re: SMS/HSM QUESTION

2018-03-05 Thread Graham Harris
PSM should expire eligible datasets, regardless of volume residency levels. Have a look at the bottom few paragraphs here, specifically: "Pass 1 of automatic primary space management

Re: Connor Krukosky is on the Main Webpage at www.ibm.com

2018-03-05 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
Connor is famous! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 3:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Connor Krukosky is on the Main Webpage at www.ibm.com [External Email]

Re: Connor Krukosky is on the Main Webpage at www.ibm.com

2018-03-05 Thread Charles Mills
I can select the ca-en page from the US. A corollary might be that you could select us-en from Canada. I just overtyped the URL. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 12:00

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Mar 5, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > > got ya, and I've never been at a site with DFSMSDSS DISABLED, bet disabling > would be quite interesting :) No, it’s quite boring, if you have the Innovation products. The only time I’ve noticed is when a vendor sent

Re: Connor Krukosky is on the Main Webpage at www.ibm.com

2018-03-05 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 5 Mar 2018 11:46:12 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main jesse1.robin...@sce.com (Jesse 1 Robinson) wrote: >Marvel seems always to be on the lookout for a new superhero character... > I don't see it in Canada where IBM forces me to the ca-en page. Clark Morris >. >J.O.Skip Robinson

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Carmen Vitullo
got ya, and I've never been at a site with DFSMSDSS DISABLED, bet disabling would be quite interesting :) Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "RICHARD W. PINION" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 1:52:30 PM Subject: Re:

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but DSS has a separate entry in IFAPRDxx. I said, we're not paying for it. But we are until we can convert application level backups to use FDRAPPL. But, if what you say is true, then maybe applications can continue to use DSS. I'm not the person

Re: Connor Krukosky is on the Main Webpage at www.ibm.com

2018-03-05 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Marvel seems always to be on the lookout for a new superhero character... . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Carmen Vitullo
HSM and RMM are other payable products/services under the DF/SMS service, but DF/DSS 'data set services' are not payable services or product, its part of the base or base + features. Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "RICHARD W. PINION" To:

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
DF/DSS & HSM can be deleted from the list of IBM products, and thus not be charged for them. In our shop, we have FDR/ABR/CPK and pay for those, but we not do pay for DF/DSS & HSM. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Steve Beaver
ADRDSSU is part of DF/DSS FDR/PAS and FDR/Move are priced by terra byes you move -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of retired mainframer Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 1:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FDRMOVE

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Carmen Vitullo
It BEEN a part of DPF for so many years, I don't order DFS services or ADRDSSU separately or get charged for these services. I know most folks, if they get use to using FDR they'd rather use FDR for some functions, I know you can copy/move using ADRDSSU and once you have some good JCL and

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread retired mainframer
Doesn't ADRDSSU come with SMS automatically? Is it really a separately priced product? > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Clark Morris > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 10:39 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re:

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 5 Mar 2018 10:11:44 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main retired-mainfra...@q.com (retired mainframer) wrote: >Why must it be FDR? Won't ADRDSSU do it? Probably because the original poster has the Innovation products and doesn't have the DSS/HSM products. Clark Morris > >>

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think with DFSMS DFDSS you need to use NULL SMS coding then let your SMS routines place it in the right places. I think FDR may be more user friendly And for DATACLAS, you need to Delete/ALLOC the file to get it Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Feel free to reuse

2018-03-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Trying for light second number 2 next year? On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Robert Prins wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently I got this (slightly edited) email: > >> I recently got into MVS/IBM z via [edited out], and was thinking of >> writing about my progress. ~20 years

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Lester, Bob
+1 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Product license key program [ EXTERNAL ] >On 3/5/18, 12:53 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: SMS/HSM QUESTION

2018-03-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Set one volume to Quiesce,New and migrate the volume. Whatever is left try to manually migrate and note error. Return to spare if you don't need the space, or Enable to return to active use. Proceed with next volume. Or just reduce high threshold so it will process all volumes, return after

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread David Boyes
>On 3/5/18, 12:53 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J >Metz" wrote: >[.snip.] OK, this discussion has reached the level of diminishing returns. There seems to be a general agreement that the concept of keys is not

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread retired mainframer
Why must it be FDR? Won't ADRDSSU do it? > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Jake Anderson > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 5:38 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: FDRMOVE sample jcl > > Hi > > Does anyone have a

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
1. Been There Done That, Got The Scars 2. Whether the vendors were bad or not is irrelevant; the keys were an additional risk factor. 3. The issue is risk, not assigning blame. 4. And I asked you to stop putting words in my mouth. 5. " than tell me that my promises are "worthless"

Fwd: Feel free to reuse

2018-03-05 Thread Robert Prins
Recently I got this (slightly edited) email: > I recently got into MVS/IBM z via [edited out], and was thinking of > writing about my progress. ~20 years of Unix is enough for anyone, I feel. > > Would it be OK to er... 'borrow' the CSS from > ?

Feel free to reuse

2018-03-05 Thread Robert Prins
Hi all, Recently I got this (slightly edited) email: > I recently got into MVS/IBM z via [edited out], and was thinking of > writing about my progress. ~20 years of Unix is enough for anyone, I feel. > > Would it be OK to er... 'borrow' the CSS from >

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi Wayne, I have to disagree on Compuware products. We have a bunch, and the License administration application works fine. We just go into the panels, set DR mode, and we're good for 14 (?) days. For us at least, it's a very workable solution for DR. Thanks! BobL -Original

Re: SMS/HSM QUESTION

2018-03-05 Thread willie bunter
I verified the MC and DSORGs.  No problem found.  No patches either which would impede the PSM.  I remember reading or being told that once the SM conditions had been met, HSM stops looking at the volume(s). From: Graham Harris To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent:

Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Carmen Vitullo
this is some very old FDR move control cards //STEP1 EXEC PGM=FDRCOPY,REGION=5M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * MOVE TYPE=DSF,MULTF=130,BYPASSACS SELECT DSG=DSE019,STORCLAS=SCBNE,MGMTCLAS=MCBNE this may be what you're looking for - some tweaking would be needed. Carmen

Connor Krukosky is on the Main Webpage at www.ibm.com

2018-03-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
In case you are interested The 'mainframe kid' follows his passion Connor Krukosky rebuilt an old z890 in his basement - and became a tech legend Just in case you want to see the z890 or Connor Lizette Koehler statistics: A precise and logical method for stating a half-truth inaccurately

Re: Tape to tape copy jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Gil Cardenas
Attached is a copy of the routine. It is documented within the script and fairly self-explanatory, nothing fancy. I do have some references to HSM commands because we were using HSM. It is fairly old 11+ years so you may need to update to current TLMS standards... Best Regards, Gil.

FDRMOVE sample jcl

2018-03-05 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi Does anyone have a sample JCL which does move a group of datasets from one SMS class to another SMS class ? Does it takes care of VSAM dataset ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Managing JESYSMSG size

2018-03-05 Thread Greg Price
On 2018-03-05 5:50 PM, Robin Atwood wrote: Greg- The SVC 99s are under my control and that is very useful to know! Thanks Robin Robin, Great! :) But I was slightly inaccurate. :( It is not in a text unit, it is in the RB proper - bit S99MSGL0 in byte S99FLG11. In a batch program

Re: Product license key program

2018-03-05 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi Shmuel, Sorry to be slow, I don't know what BTDT,GTS means. Also, this discussion is supposed to be about keys and whether they are justified or bad or good or "whatever". If you had a bad vendor, then whether or not they had keys in their software is almost irrelevant. If the vendor