Re: descriptor code for iplcheck

2018-11-07 Thread Jason Cai
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Re: filter program

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:21:42 +0800, Jason Cai wrote: > > When we use filter command in oplerlog to show the messages that we want ,it > is very convenient. > >for example: > >filter msgid=IEF* or filter msgid=*E > >We want to code a filter program to do it for PS file, could you know how to

Re: filter program

2018-11-07 Thread Jason Cai
Hi This is a good idea. We use ADDRESS ISREDIT to filter the PS . Thanks again! Best Regards, Jason Cai From: retired mainframer Date: 2018-11-08 01:38 To: IBM-MAIN Subject: Re: filter program In ISPF, edit the dataset or file, then X ALL followed by F filter-text ALL >

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Jack J. Woehr
On 11/7/2018 10:51 PM, Charles Mills wrote: I does and it doesn't. No one could claim that z/OS was an initialism for zero-down-time operating system. All us francophones understand ... it ees seemply ze OS. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Charles Mills
I does and it doesn't. No one could claim that z/OS was an initialism for zero-down-time operating system. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Bishop Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 6:18 PM To:

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
In linguistics we call this 'back-formation', where a plausible evolution gets assigned a fictitious etymology. Example: burgle, derived in reverse from burglar. My very favorite mainframe example: IPL. Can be used as verb, noun, modifier, almost any 'part of speech'. All from an acronym.

Re: FTP to zvm

2018-11-07 Thread Jake Anderson
You can FTP it to 191 and move it to CF0 disk But make a backup copy of config member. You can also subscribe to ib...@listserv.uark.edu where you can get lot of response and best practices to follow on On Wed 7 Nov, 2018, 11:53 PM Dazzo, Matt < 00a854d4f854-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: Expanding acronyms was Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Classic case of acronym evolution. I would like to fare as well myself. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Supported release for z/OS

2018-11-07 Thread Mike Schwab
They kept the time period the same but changed the release cycle to 2 years. On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 8:18 PM Clark Morris wrote: > > When did IBM change its support policy so that after an overlap period > only the 2 most current release are supported. I was surprised to > find that End of

Re: Expanding acronyms was Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Brian Fraser
I was on a course once many years ago in Australia. The instructor went through VTAM, ISAM, BDAM, VSAM, etc. He then finished up with WHAMBANGTHANKYOUMAM. I can't remember what he said it stood for, but it was brilliant. I today's political correctness he probably wouldn't get away with it. On

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Peter Bishop
I went to an IBM buzzfest at the rename announcement (390 to z IIRC, it was a while back) where it was said that z stood for "zero down time". Peter On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 16:09:25 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Good thing it was before the days of z/OS. What does the z in z/OS stand for? >AFAIK

Supported release for z/OS

2018-11-07 Thread Clark Morris
When did IBM change its support policy so that after an overlap period only the 2 most current release are supported. I was surprised to find that End of Service for 2.1 was September 2018 since 2.3 is the current release. Clark Morris

Expanding acronyms was Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 7 Nov 2018 16:09:34 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: >Good thing it was before the days of z/OS. What does the z in z/OS stand for? >AFAIK "zarchitecture" is not an English word. The better explanation of MVS is that once the IBM acronym is

Re: Speaking of time change...

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 17:12:47 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Should be called "Why Doctors Should Hate Local Time." > Particularly for health care centers whose networks span time zones. This could be only a few years old; how could the designers be so ignorant about a long-solved problem? The DB

Re: Speaking of time change...

2018-11-07 Thread Charles Mills
Should be called "Why Doctors Should Hate Local Time." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Speaking of time

Re: Speaking of time change...

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 13:10:03 -0600, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >has anyone used the Sysplex timer option to automatically switch time zones? >... > From: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/11/12/why-doctors-hate-their-computers ... Last fall, the night before daylight-saving time ended,

Re: Using FDR

2018-11-07 Thread Robert2 Gensler
Hi Skip, I hope you don't mind me emailing you here, but I am reviewing the SR and looking at the doc you provided and will be working with the team to get to root cause. I have not reviewed all of the doc yet, but I suspect this could have something to do with sysplex aware zFS's and the

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Charles Mills
Good thing it was before the days of z/OS. What does the z in z/OS stand for? AFAIK "zarchitecture" is not an English word. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 3:20

Re: Using FDR

2018-11-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
A friend sent me off list a pointer to some FDR doc. Looks like I need to run FDRAPPL to pick up ZFS (VSAM) from the catalog. Cooked up a job to try it. Coded PGM=FDRABR. S806. Looks like we're not licensed for ABR. Shucks. As for other suggestions to get DSS working, as I said, IBM has been

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread scott Ford
God, I love it. Buzz words, after 40 yrs you heard many it not all. I have been mentoring two guys and have hit these ...it gets weird when you talk from a sysprog/dev point of view and try to explain it to newbies .. Regards, Scott On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 5:58 PM Charles Mills wrote: > I hired

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Charles Mills
I hired a tech writer once who had been taught in school that you should introduce every acronym the first time you used it: "Whizbang/390 runs on any current release of Multiple Virtual Systems (MVS) ..." And wanted to argue me into the ground on the point. I let him go on the 29th day of his

Re: Speaking of time change...

2018-11-07 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 8/11/2018 3:06 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 20:19:43 +1100, Andrew Rowley wrote: This means that (if your system follows the rules for DST changes) ... Why should any system choose *not* to "follow the rules"? z/OS has a weird culture. I guess some sites change times

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Let's not pass up the opportunity to observe that TSO is not 'time sharing', nor is it 'optional', yet it's constantly on the lips of every mainframer. I caution newbies (and managers and auditors) not to give much weight to these acronyms. Saying 'multiple virtual storage' more than once in a

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread David Spiegel
R'Shmuel, There is also USS for non-SNA (aka BSC). Regards, David On 2018-11-07 16:23, Seymour J Metz wrote: > USS is the part of VTAM that handles text-mode login from SNA terminals. > There is a parallel set of definitions for Telnet access. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 21:41:29 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Enclave is a bit difficult describe; take a look at the Language Environment >documentation for a start. LE uses "enclave" to mean one thing. I believe that Workload Manager (WLM) uses it to mean something different. I'm not clear

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Roughly, and in an MVS context: Address space: a context for resolving virtual addresses. There is an address space for each batch job, started task, TSO session and similar units of work. Data space: a specialized address space from which instructions are not executed. Subsystem: a body of

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Rob Schramm
*sound of hand slapping forehead*!! Hasn't this been covered ad nauseum? USS is frequently used to refer to Unix System Services.. although I think the last exhaustive discussion put zUnix as an alternative. It is also used for unformatted system service for VTAM. While there have been those

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
USS is the part of VTAM that handles text-mode login from SNA terminals. There is a parallel set of definitions for Telnet access. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan

Re: How to tell what allocated a dataset never opened

2018-11-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
And if that fails create a RACF profile with no access to anyone and wait for the scream. You will immediately find out who is still creating the old datasets. Jerry Whitteridge Delivery Manager / Mainframe Architect GTS - Safeway Account 602 527 4871 Mobile jerry.whitteri...@ibm.com IBM

Re: How to tell what allocated a dataset never opened

2018-11-07 Thread Jackson, Rob
If it's SMS-managed and/or cataloged, you should have types 60 and/or 61 for the VVDS update and ICF define (assuming they're not turned off). First Tennessee Bank Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roach, Dennis Sent:

Re: How to tell what allocated a dataset never opened

2018-11-07 Thread Roach, Dennis
If you use something like RACF you can look at the product logs or SMF and see who created it if the log option for the covering profile. I have used RACF to create a full generic profile with no the same access as the current controlling profile and audit(all(read)). Dennis Roach, CISSP AIG

How to tell what allocated a dataset never opened

2018-11-07 Thread Jim Beck
All, We've retired an application and are in the process of cleanup. Does anyone know of a way to identify what is allocating a given dataset if it's never opened? SMF cuts 14 & 15 records only if the dataset is open. Other than scratch, rename, and other VTOC changes, I haven't found an SMF

FTP to zvm

2018-11-07 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Running zvm 6.3 and I'm looking to ftp a file from my desktop to pmaint.cf0. I updated the system config file on my desktop and trying to ftp it back to zvm. Problem is PMAINT CF0 (ReadOnly) How do I get this to be read/write? I tried using maint630 user but can't seem to find the location of

Re: Using FDR

2018-11-07 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Some details in the interest of completeness. I'm truly not expecting NOW you tell me - I already sent out the baby shower invitations . The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Note that the definition given for started task is wrong. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 3:39 PM To:

Re: Ask the experts about running things

2018-11-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
The CS support for Telnet, including TN3270, uses USS tables as well. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Thompson Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 5:04 PM To:

Re: tape drive RESERVE/RELEASE

2018-11-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Can't you assign each channel interface to a different LPAR? That used to work. Aren't the assign and inassign commands for tape drives essentially the same a reserve and release for DASD? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From:

Re: Using FDR

2018-11-07 Thread Clifford McNeill
What happens if you mount one of the files, list contents with ls command, and then unmount it. Can you then dump it? The mount/unmount could be to any mountpoint, it doesn't have to be the exact one in BPXPRMxx. I'm suspecting zfs wasn't unmounted correctly and re-mount (anywhere) will fix

Re: Zip/390

2018-11-07 Thread Chambers, David W.
Thanks, Len. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Zip/390

2018-11-07 Thread Sasso, Len
We have been trying to install it and test it since it was first made available, with no success. Our management decided to move to PKWARE's PKZIP Product. Thank You! Len Sasso System Administrator General Dynamics Information Technology 327 Columbia TPKE Rensselaer, NY 12144 Phone: (518)

Zip/390

2018-11-07 Thread Chambers, David W.
Anyone running ZIP/390 MP Secure Edition from Data21? David Chambers -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Using FDR

2018-11-07 Thread Jousma, David
Skip, Are you sure they are unmounted? If you have separate UNMOUNT statement for each ZFS in the hierarchy and you try to unmount one higher in the hierarchy before the lower one, it will fail. As of z/OS V2.2 you can safely use in UNIX shell: unmount -R /SERVICE That will unmount in

Re: Using FDR

2018-11-07 Thread David Spiegel
Maybe you need ALLD and ALLX? On 2018-11-07 12:30, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > And now for the rest of the story... > > [Some details in the interest of completeness. I'm truly not expecting] a > DFDSS solution from the List. We've had an SR open on this since August, and > IBM can't figure it

Re: filter program

2018-11-07 Thread retired mainframer
In ISPF, edit the dataset or file, then X ALL followed by F filter-text ALL > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jason Cai > Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 1:22 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: filter program > > Hi all > > When we

Re: Using FDR

2018-11-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
And now for the rest of the story... [Some details in the interest of completeness. I'm truly not expecting] a DFDSS solution from the List. We've had an SR open on this since August, and IBM can't figure it out. The problem affects only 'maintenance' ZFS, which are never in use except during

Re: Using FDR

2018-11-07 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Some details in the interest of completeness. I'm truly not expecting . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: z/OS BDAM question

2018-11-07 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 11/07/2018 12:06 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On 2018-11-06, at 22:20:07, Joel C. Ewing wrote: > >> If you search on-line for Unicode characters, their code point values >> are usually given using the "U+" notation, where is in hex, so >> IBM is just following standard usage. >> > My

Re: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Free, in need of a home - or the local recycle centre...

2018-11-07 Thread Ronald Kristel
Hello Robert! Definitely! Would it be okay for you if I contacted you off-list? :). Ronald Kristel From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Robert Prins Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 8:57:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM]

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2018-11-07 Thread Robert Prins
Copies of the "IBM Systems Journal", most in near mint condition, unless otherwise noted, years are complete: 71: 3+4 72: 1+2+3 73 74 75: 1+2 76: 1+4 77 78 79: 1+3+4 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87: 1+3+4 88 89 90: 1+2+3 And a few loose copies of the IBM Personal Systems Journal from around 1990.

Re: Speaking of time change...

2018-11-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 20:19:43 +1100, Andrew Rowley wrote: > >This means that (if your system follows the rules for DST changes) ... > Why should any system choose *not* to "follow the rules"? z/OS has a weird culture. >... you can apply a timezone to local time values and use the built in Java

filter program

2018-11-07 Thread Jason Cai
Hi all When we use filter command in oplerlog to show the messages that we want ,it is very convenient. for example: filter msgid=IEF* or filter msgid=*E We want to code a filter program to do it for PS file, could you know how to code it? How to make filter program support *? Thanks a

Re: Speaking of time change...

2018-11-07 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 7/11/2018 10:17 AM, Charles Mills wrote: You're right of course. I still stand by my assertion that most of the formats are stupid, and the standard SMF format is no prize-winner. Milliseconds (or even microseconds) since the start of some era would have fit conveniently in 64 bits, would