Re: non-reusable ASID

2019-08-19 Thread Jim Mulder
No. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieaa500/ieaa500102.htm Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY > We just ran out of non-reusable ASID and don't have an IPL scheduled > for another week. We have plenty of

Re: non-reusable ASID

2019-08-19 Thread Michael Brennan
Yes. Michael Brennan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Nai, Dean Sent: 19 August 2019 14:01 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: non-reusable ASID We just ran out of non-reusable ASID and don't have an IPL scheduled for another week. We have plenty

Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Aug 19, 2019, at 3:30 PM, TenEyck, Peter wrote: > > I to struggled to find documentation to answer Dave's question on the > MIGRATABLE attribute. Where is the MIGRATABLE attribute documented? I would > like to see it… There’s some documentation in “z/OS MVS Program Management: User's

Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread TenEyck, Peter
I to struggled to find documentation to answer Dave's question on the MIGRATABLE attribute. Where is the MIGRATABLE attribute documented? I would like to see it... It's not really a COBOL thing right? It's just a flag if a "member" can be copied from PDS to PDSE or perhaps PDSE to PDS? I saw

Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread Dave Cole
Thank you Curtis (and the several others who concurred with Curtis). This is what people here were thinking, and certainly it makes good sense. I was hoping to get a definitive link (or response from an IBMer), but this consensus is confirmation enough. Thank You, Dave At 8/19/2019 02:26

Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 14:41, Mark Jacobs <0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > That attribute was also set on a load module I just created too, so what > Curtis said makes sense to me. The load module/program object can > exist in ether format depending on where it's stored.

Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread Mike Schwab
COBOL 5 and 6 generate OBJECTS. They can't be copied to PDSs. Cobol 4 created Load Modules and can be copied into PDSEs. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 2:25 PM TenEyck, Peter wrote: > > Not sure about the COBOL connection... > > Is the setting of MIGRATABLE attribute by the binder related to binder

Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread TenEyck, Peter
Not sure about the COBOL connection... Is the setting of MIGRATABLE attribute by the binder related to binder setting COMPAT= ? I do "think" it indicates the ability to copy PDSE to PDS. //* Peter Ten Eyck //* Senior Systems Programmer //* American National // -Original Message- From:

Re: non-reusable ASID

2019-08-19 Thread Doug Henry
Using you favorite way of looking at health checks find the value for IEA_ASIDS. For instance in SDSF you can use CK command. It will tell you how many days until you run out. You will be surprised how long a period it will actually be. Doug On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 19:00:38 +, Nai, Dean

Re: Local time in C on z/OS

2019-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:54:13 +, Jon Perryman wrote: > Paul, the iana.org time database is one of many attempts at solving the time > issue. Databases and other multi-user products have their own implementations > to deal with their specific situation. Mysql is open source so you can see >

non-reusable ASID

2019-08-19 Thread Nai, Dean
We just ran out of non-reusable ASID and don't have an IPL scheduled for another week. We have plenty of reusable ASID left. Will things that used all the non-reusable ASID like DB2IRLM just use the reusable ones when they get recycled? Dean Nai >

Re: Local time in C on z/OS

2019-08-19 Thread Jon Perryman
Paul, the iana.org time database is one of many attempts at solving the time issue. Databases and other multi-user products have their own implementations to deal with their specific situation. Mysql is open source so you can see their implementation. For the difficult situations, we just

Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4

2019-08-19 Thread Mauri Kanter
Hi: It was always difficult for me to find materials about SIE ... A nice source of data I found was the Linux Kernel sources, because of KVM ... It is nice to see for example how the instructions starting with a B2 opcode are intercepted It is good to understand how the job is actually

Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread Mike Schwab
Generated by COBOL 5+, as one example. Long names. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.idad400/d4289.htm On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 1:26 PM Pew, Curtis G wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > > > 1) When a Program Object is

Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread Mark Jacobs
That attribute was also set on a load module I just created too, so what Curtis said makes sense to me. The load module/program object can exist in ether format depending on where it's stored. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Jon Perryman
Have you looked at CBTTAPE.ORG to see if this already exists? Maybe the PDS command does something like this that you can adapt to your needs. Jon. On Monday, August 19, 2019, 07:46:44 AM PDT, Kirk Wolf wrote: So I know how to do this with BPAM, but I have a case where I would like to

Re: Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Aug 19, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > 1) When a Program Object is MIGRATABLE, what can it be migrated from? What > can it be migrated to? My understanding is that a MIGRATABLE Program Object can be copied to a PDS load library where it becomes a load module. (Program Objects live

Question about a Program Object's MIGRATABLE attribute

2019-08-19 Thread Dave Cole
A question has come up regarding something called the MIGRATABLE attribute that the Binder can assign to a program object. It's not an attribute that the user can assign, only the binder can assign it in response to its own analysis of the structure and needs of the Object. My question is,

Re: Local time in C on z/OS

2019-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 17:09:22 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >>> ... >>>   // set the time zone offset and apply the leap second offset >>>   int64_t ldto = cvt->cvtext2->cvtldto - cvt->cvtext2->cvtlso + adjust; >>> >> Is this intended to be used with localtime() and strftime()? Localtime() >

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
> Or is it DSORG? No. There is a bit in the JFCB (JFCBIND1,JFCPDS) that indicates whether JFCBELNM contains a member name. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:46:03 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >So I know how to do this with BPAM, but I have a case where I would like to >use QSAM to add or replace a member of a PDS or PDSE.I want to use BLDL >an STOW in order to process ISPF statistics. >... >3) DD question: I think that having

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
If you're not intimately familiar with the now undocumented QSAM logic, then trying to mix FIND/NOTE/STOW with QSAM is dicey and you're better off using BPAM. I've done it, but it's not for the inexperienced. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Charles Mills
I seem to recall getting part way down this road years ago and reaching the same conclusion. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4

2019-08-19 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/19/2019 7:40 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Lots of possibilities for what one can do. Something to bear in mind its a “virtualized” guest so I/O performance will be less than native zLinux performance. I haven’t seen any good data on the actual differences in performance but that would be

Re: TGIF

2019-08-19 Thread Peter Relson
I've never seen nor heard of an IHADCB macro, as of z/OS 2.4. Did you mean one should just create it? Well, that's embarrassing. Bad assumption on my part. There is such a macro, but it's apparently not shipped externally. The assembler part consists of MACRO IHADCB =,= DCBD

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
If you use STOW with QSAM you're on your own; it's a lot of work to get it right. BTDT,GTS. Look at http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3/source/STOWBLDL.ASM if you're really brave. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Steve Smith
I've recently done some similar programming. After some false starts, I decided it was easier to just use BPAM for the output. One gotcha... OPEN for input will abend if the member name doesn't exist, even with DSORG=PO. So, I had to modify the JFCB to allow that (and JFCNWRIT on!).

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:41 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > IBM assumes that your program will only use STOW for MACRF=W. CLOSE does > use STOW for DSORG=PO,MACRF=P[M], but only after doing some housekeeping > that is not documented. > The documentation seems inconsistent in "Using Data sets" /

Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4

2019-08-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
What about licensing issues? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Peter Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Linux address space on z/OS

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
IBM assumes that your program will only use STOW for MACRF=W. CLOSE does use STOW for DSORG=PO,MACRF=P[M], but only after doing some housekeeping that is not documented. You get the TTR of the member from DCBRELAD. If you need to include user TTRs, do a NOTE after the relevant CHECK. Yes, you

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Seymour J Metz
> Well, I think stories of overwriting PDS directories with IEBGENER are legend ITYM legion; it's no legend, although IBM fixed it a long time ago. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf

Re: Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Greg Price
On 2019-08-20 12:46 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: 1) This is confusing, since I had thought that I couldn't use MACRF=PM with DSORG=PO. But with DSORG=PS, I don't think that I can use STOW. But, under "STOW - Update the Directory", it says that you can. Maybe I need to use DSORG=PS? I read that

Adding/replacing PDS member with QSAM, BLDL, and STOW

2019-08-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
So I know how to do this with BPAM, but I have a case where I would like to use QSAM to add or replace a member of a PDS or PDSE.I want to use BLDL an STOW in order to process ISPF statistics. I've been reading "Using Data Sets" / "Creating a PDS Member with BSAM or QSAM", and it is still a

Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4

2019-08-19 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Lots of possibilities for what one can do. Something to bear in mind its a “virtualized” guest so I/O performance will be less than native zLinux performance. I haven’t seen any good data on the actual differences in performance but that would be interesting. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org

Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4

2019-08-19 Thread Mike Shorkend
I doubt it. You would need to get your hands on an Oracle container(do they even exist?) compiled on Linux for z. On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 14:06, Peter wrote: > Cool so we can run oracle on top of it ? > > On Mon, 19 Aug, 2019, 2:57 PM Mike Shorkend, > wrote: > > > zCX workloads are ZIIP

Re: zOS 2.4 availablity ?

2019-08-19 Thread Mark Regan
See announcement letter 219-344 https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS219-344/index.html_locale=en>, of July 23, 2019: https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/4/897/ENUS219-344/index.html_locale=en Go to the "Ordering

Re: zOS 2.4 availablity ?

2019-08-19 Thread Allan Staller
End of Sept. 2019 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2019 2:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: zOS 2.4 availablity ? Hi Group, When can we expect zOS 2.4 serverpac to be available in shopz ? Regards Peter

Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4

2019-08-19 Thread Peter
Cool so we can run oracle on top of it ? On Mon, 19 Aug, 2019, 2:57 PM Mike Shorkend, wrote: > zCX workloads are ZIIP eligible. No IFLs involved. > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 10:11, Jake Anderson > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will there

Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4

2019-08-19 Thread Mike Shorkend
zCX workloads are ZIIP eligible. No IFLs involved. On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 10:11, Jake Anderson wrote: > Hi > > How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will there > be a IFL to offload only Linux workload from zOS ? As getting into general > CP is going to squeeze the

GSE UK - Large Systems Virtual Event

2019-08-19 Thread Leanne Wilson
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Re: Local time in C on z/OS

2019-08-19 Thread David Crayford
On 2019-08-19 12:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I once wrote some C code that sets the TZ, _TZ variables from the time zone offset, leap second offset values in the CVT. ...   // set the time zone offset and apply the leap second offset   int64_t ldto = cvt->cvtext2->cvtldto -

Re: Linux address space on z/OS 2.4

2019-08-19 Thread Jake Anderson
Hi How are the Linux workload are going to be handled within zOS, will there be a IFL to offload only Linux workload from zOS ? As getting into general CP is going to squeeze the performance in general. Jake. On Mon, 29 Jul, 2019, 1:54 PM Mark Hiscock, wrote: > Hi all, > > If you want to