Re: UNIX CHAR FILES

2022-03-24 Thread David Crayford
On Thu, 2022-03-24 at 20:26 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:29:03 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > > The ISPF display for special files only says "Char", which doesn't tell you > > enough. > > > > To see what it really is, you need to do "ls -al: command: > > On my z/OS V2R4 sys

Re: Using SORT to add quotes around CHAR fields? (Listserv)

2022-03-24 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>"&F1","&F2","&F3","&F4",&F5,&F6 Wayne, Isn't this assuming that the first 4 columns are character and you are embedding the quotes ? Also did you delete off the first 2 records (the headers and column attributes) ? I believe Op's requirement is to determine the column attributes based on th

Re: Comparing two PS - Source codes

2022-03-24 Thread Sri h Kolusu
≫ I have two PS datasets having some programming codes , Is it possible to compare these two PS and produce a third PS datasets by removing duplicate entries ? Jake, There are a couple of DFSORT smart tricks which shows the usage of Joinkeys • Join fields from two files on a key •

Re: UNIX CHAR FILES

2022-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:29:03 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >The ISPF display for special files only says "Char", which doesn't tell you >enough. > >To see what it really is, you need to do "ls -al: command: >On my z/OS V2R4 system: > >> ls -al /var/CEAServer >srwxrwxrwx 1 OMVSKERN OMVSGRP0 Ma

Re: Using SORT to add quotes around CHAR fields? (Listserv)

2022-03-24 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Hi, Was busy and couldn't look at this right away. There are a few monkey wrenches in processing the data. You have some columns which had spaces in between the data and the column attributes having comma's added complications to parsing the data as a comma separator. Either way here is a job t

Re: Actual Block Processor

2022-03-24 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
You are right. I keep forgetting how bad my memory is. It was 121 I was thinking of. This is from MVS Diagnosis Reference. SVC 121 (0A79) VSAM macro - is type 1, gets LOCAL lock. Calls module IGC121. GTF data is: R15 Contains the pointer to the buffer control block. R0 Contains the pointer to the

Re: UNIX CHAR FILES

2022-03-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
The ISPF display for special files only says "Char", which doesn't tell you enough. To see what it really is, you need to do "ls -al: command: On my z/OS V2R4 system: > ls -al /var/CEAServer srwxrwxrwx 1 OMVSKERN OMVSGRP0 Mar 21 13:47 /var/CEAServer The "s" means that this is a Unix-

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-24 Thread CM Poncelet
Yes - and it could not be called NPL as its further development was then transferred to IBM Hursley in England. On 24/03/2022 12:45, Seymour J Metz wrote: > FORTRAN VI -> NPL -> MPPL -> PL/I > > At the time I thought that MPPL was a hideous acronym. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mas

Re: Using SORT to add quotes around CHAR fields? (Listserv)

2022-03-24 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Don, ISPF file tailoring can easily handle this. I have a generic panel driven program and every time I have a list to manipulate, I just build a new skeleton and run it against the list. In your case, this would be your VB input file. The prototype skeleton I used looks like this: ))) SLIB CA

Re: Can SORTWKnn Data Sets Use More Than One Volume?

2022-03-24 Thread Michael Watkins
Nevermind. DFSORT Application Programming Guide, P.68, "DFSORT uses only the space on the first volume specified for a multivolume data set. Space on the second and subsequent volumes is not used. Multivolume SORTWKdd data sets are, therefore, treated as single-volume SORTWKdd data sets."

Re: UNIX CHAR FILES

2022-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 15:59:51 -0500, Shelia Chalk wrote: >I have a Unix Char file in /var. I would like to copy it over to another /var >directory with all the same attributes. Can someone help me out? > >_ Char 777 rwxrwxrwx 2022-03-24 06:26 BPXROOT 0 CEAServer > Does "cp -r file1 file2

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Charles Mills
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FORMAC Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 1:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FORMAC was ABP I don't know the language at

UNIX CHAR FILES

2022-03-24 Thread Shelia Chalk
I have a Unix Char file in /var. I would like to copy it over to another /var directory with all the same attributes. Can someone help me out? _ Char 777 rwxrwxrwx 2022-03-24 06:26 BPXROOT 0 CEAServer Thanks SC -- For

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Charles Mills
There was an APL golf ball for the Selectric family of devices. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FORMAC was ABP I

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Charles Mills
I don't know the language at all but FORMAC sounds to me like a 6-letter (hello, FORTRAN!) portmanteau of FORTRAN and MACRO. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 1:06 PM

Re: Can SORTWKnn Data Sets Use More Than One Volume?

2022-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:49:24 +, Michael Watkins wrote: >... A quick search of the IBM documentation doesn't seem to provide a > conclusive answer. Anyone got a clue? > I'm confident you'll get a knowledgeable answer. I wonder, which is better: o More single-volume data sets for greater

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
My recollection is that FORMAC was in the 1960s and was FORTRAN based, but memory is the 2nd thing to go. I can't remember the 1st. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
I might believe special golf ball. While I never used APL, and din't find the lack of control structures desirable, I very much liked the concept of operators and reduction. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Di

Can SORTWKnn Data Sets Use More Than One Volume?

2022-03-24 Thread Michael Watkins
I've always understood that SORTWKnn data sets could only reside on a single volume, but a co-worker coded DATACLAS=PSE on SORTWKnn DD cards and, as the DATACLASS dictated, 59 volumes were allocated to the SORTWKnn DD. Of course, simply because volumes were allocated doesn't mean they were actua

Re: Actual Block Processor

2022-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
(part 2) MM is more recent than, and replaced, ABP. AFAIK they never coexisted in the same release. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Lennie Dymoke-Brads

Re: Actual Block Processor

2022-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
I doubt that there was an SVC entry point for it,and 120 is either GETMAIN or STORAGE. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw [032ff

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Mar 24, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Jay Maynard wrote: > > Three things a man must do > Before his life is done: > Write two lines in APL > And make the suckers run > -- Stan Kelly-Bootle, _The Devil's DP Dictionary_ > My recollection is that it wasn’t so hard to “make the suckers run” so much as t

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Jay Maynard
Three things a man must do Before his life is done: Write two lines in APL And make the suckers run -- Stan Kelly-Bootle, _The Devil's DP Dictionary_ On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 12:40 PM Carmen Vitullo wrote: > ding ding ! > > it was an APL terminal, APL language IIRC > > that hurt my brain > > I

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Pierre Fichaud
At our college, we had an APL terminal. I wrote a couple of programs. A very powerful language and quite cryptic. Programs were coded in RPN, weren't they? PF. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, se

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-24 Thread zMan
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 8:46 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > At the time I thought that MPPL was a hideous acronym. Nah, it woulda been great: "I'm a computer guy...let me show you my mipple!" (and normal people think geeks are weird as it is...) -

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Carmen Vitullo
APL and possibly during my time working for a large retailer in the 70's APL2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APL_(programming_language) Carmen On 3/24/2022 12:23 PM, Joe Monk wrote: Probably PL/S. Joe On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 12:18 PM Carmen Vitullo wrote: Reminds of of the IBM 'guy' we h

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Carmen Vitullo
ding ding ! it was an APL terminal, APL language IIRC that hurt my brain I'm not sure what APL was used for but I knew it was kinda off limit to us and hush hush Carmen On 3/24/2022 12:26 PM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: you could be right, but I thinking along the lines of a three letter acronym

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Carmen Vitullo
you could be right, but I thinking along the lines of a three letter acronym, maybe not a programming language but a tool used by them for the customer. If my brain recalls the name from ML2 I'll post it Carmen On 3/24/2022 12:23 PM, Joe Monk wrote: Probably PL/S. Joe On Thu, Mar 24, 2022

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Joe Monk
Probably PL/S. Joe On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 12:18 PM Carmen Vitullo wrote: > Reminds of of the IBM 'guy' we had on-site daily at my fist gig, he had > a 'special' terminal at our site and coded in a language that eludes me > right now - man do I feel old now that I cannot remember stuff > > Carm

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Reminds of of the IBM 'guy' we had on-site daily at my fist gig, he had a 'special' terminal at our site and coded in a language that eludes me right now - man do I feel old now that I cannot remember stuff Carmen On 3/24/2022 12:05 PM, Pierre Fichaud wrote: I haven't heard the term ABP menti

FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-24 Thread Pierre Fichaud
I haven't heard the term ABP mentioned in over 20 years. That brings back memories of stuff I did early in my career. I remember using IBM's FORMAC compiler (or pre-processor) sometime in the mid 70s (I think). IIRC, it generated PL/1 code. I can't remember what I did but I didn't spend a lot of

Re: Actual Block Processor

2022-03-24 Thread Joe Monk
"ABP-ACTUAL BLOCK PROCESSOR (I/O-MANAGEMENT COMMUNICATION VECTOR TABLE)" The ABP is a communication vector table that contains entry points for I/O management modules located in the nucleus. It islink-edited in the nucleus as IDAI21CV, along with the modules. The ABP is created by NIP and pointed

Re: Comparing two PS - Source codes

2022-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 10:45:09 -0500, Ramsey Hallman wrote: >You might try WinMerge. Open source, free download. Does a great job of >comparing files and can produce an output file. Not sure about removing >dups - never had a reason to do that. > Did the OP mean duplicates within either file or

Re: Comparing two PS - Source codes

2022-03-24 Thread Ramsey Hallman
You might try WinMerge. Open source, free download. Does a great job of comparing files and can produce an output file. Not sure about removing dups - never had a reason to do that. ramsey On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 7:12 AM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Re: Actual Block Processor

2022-03-24 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Wasn't that SVC 120? Or possibly part of it. Do those components you mention use the media manager (another component that is not well documented to mere mortals)? Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw https://rsclweb.com 'Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.' -Original Message- Fro

Re: Actual Block Processor

2022-03-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 at 10:10, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > There used to be an MVS component called Actual Block Processor that did low > level I/O for CI-formatted data. IS there an equivalent routine in z/OS used > by, e.g., HFS, PDSE? If so, is there a source that I can cite in Wikipedia? I ima

Actual Block Processor

2022-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
There used to be an MVS component called Actual Block Processor that did low level I/O for CI-formatted data. IS there an equivalent routine in z/OS used by, e.g., HFS, PDSE? If so, is there a source that I can cite in Wikipedia? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 --

Re: Using SORT to add quotes around CHAR fields? (Listserv)

2022-03-24 Thread Don Johnson
Wayne, thanks for these great solution ideas - they give me other ideas, too. I might try the Datasource for Excel option for another need I have. The IBM DB2 Rexx is interesting, and I will have to see if I could adapt it to my Datacom table (at first blush, it seems too DB2-centric). Thanks a

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
Just opened a ticket was told will get a response by tommorow Thank you > On Mar 24, 2022, at 9:32 AM, John Abell > wrote: > > Yes we are ISVs and have had zPDT since the end of FLEX. > > Let me know how you get this sorted out please. > > John T. Abell > Tel:800-295-760

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread John Abell
Yes we are ISVs and have had zPDT since the end of FLEX. Let me know how you get this sorted out please. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 Intern

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
Just logged in to passport advantage went to down load software Still 2.4 John if I understand you it was explained to me that there are 2 Zpdt personal edition which I think you I and vendors have And the learners edition I’ll call the passport advantage number and or ibmserv Thank you

Re: Using SORT to add quotes around CHAR fields? (Listserv)

2022-03-24 Thread Don Johnson
Kolusu, here are the first 3 column definitions: CHAR(10) N.N., CHAR(30) NOT NULL, CHAR(8) N.N., As you can see, each of the columns is separated by a comma, which is outside of the parens. The N.N. is an abbreviation for Not Null, and the abbreviation is used when the column width is less than

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread John Abell
OK. But if we can get it for zPDT, I would think that you should be able to also have it. John T. Abell Tel:800-295-7608Option 4 President International: 1-416-593-5578 Option 4 E-mail: john.ab...@intnlsoftwareproducts.com Fax:800-295-7609 International: 1-41

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
John Think we have different licenses I typically download the images from the passport advantage site > On Mar 24, 2022, at 8:47 AM, John Abell > wrote: > > The 2.5 ADCD is on the Dallas site. We downloaded it almost 2 weeks ago and > have it up and running in its base form with no is

Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question

2022-03-24 Thread Carmen Vitullo
ok excellent, I had 5 emails to you in my sent folder :( I would hope the z/OSMF folks would entertain an export function like what you are looking for. I have, for years been creating spreadsheets to augment the migration guide for omvs customization, uss filesystem changes, exits...etc it

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread John Abell
The 2.5 ADCD is on the Dallas site. We downloaded it almost 2 weeks ago and have it up and running in its base form with no issues. https://dtsc.dfw.ibm.com/ocgi/pagebuilder?/web/httpd1/pagebuilder/download.dat You will have to login with you appropriate ID and Password. John T. Abell Tel:

Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question

2022-03-24 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
I only received one email. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 8:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question Bob, my email client Thunderbird, sent this to you multiple

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
FORTRAN VI -> NPL -> MPPL -> PL/I At the time I thought that MPPL was a hideous acronym. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of CM Poncelet [03e99a92061c-d

Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question

2022-03-24 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Bob, my email client Thunderbird, sent this to you multiple times in an attempt to save the message to my sent folder, sorry for that Carmen On 3/24/2022 7:26 AM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote: Carmen, Thank you! Send it my way and I'll give it a try! Bob -Original Message- From:

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-24 Thread Bob Bridges
LOL. Except any IBM-invented product name that ended in 'F' would surely be a something-something-Facility. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* You will find that silence or very gentle words are the most exquisite revenge for insult. -Judge Hall */ -Original Mes

Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question

2022-03-24 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I will, I'm not sure you'll like what you get, but I'm sure you can do something with it. Carmen On 3/24/2022 7:26 AM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote: Carmen, Thank you! Send it my way and I'll give it a try! Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question

2022-03-24 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Carmen, Thank you! Send it my way and I'll give it a try! Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question there is an export funct

Re: z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question

2022-03-24 Thread Carmen Vitullo
there is an export function Bob, not excel but a nice format. if you want I can provide a sample to you so you can play with Carmen On 3/24/2022 7:20 AM, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote: Is there a way to export migration workflow tasks into an EXCEL spreadsheet? The goal is to provide a list

z/OSMF Migration Workflow Question

2022-03-24 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Is there a way to export migration workflow tasks into an EXCEL spreadsheet? The goal is to provide a list of tasks with assignees and then filter on the assignee column. I would prefer if they went into the workflow themselves, but that is a work in progress. Bob

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
On another note still waiting for 2.5 anybody hear anything > On Mar 23, 2022, at 1:33 AM, Jay Maynard wrote: > > I have completed all of the paperwork and paid my money. The last I heard, > the log4j business was indeed soaking up all of the bandwidth they had to > devote to such things, bu

Re: Comparing two PS - Source codes

2022-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 09:51:31 +0400, Jake Anderson wrote: > >I have two PS datasets having some programming codes , Is it possible to >compare these two PS and produce a third PS datasets by removing duplicate >entries ? > IOW, do you want a listing containing only the changed lines? ISRSUPC /bi

Re: JES2 Purge Processing [EXTERNAL]

2022-03-24 Thread Claude Richbourg
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