On 8/07/2022 7:43 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
On 08.07.2022 03:38, David Crayford wrote:
On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
When I select a language for a job, one of the things that I look
at is the ecosystem. I prefer ooRexx to Perl, but I find myself using
Perl for some tasks be
This has happened to me several times because I typically do the ordering at
night. Apparently, sometimes when you try to add a csreport during off (for
IBM) hours, one of the servers that IBM uses to parse the report isn't there,
and you just have to wait a little for it to come back online.
Slowly moving to a full test of a site swap after a successful HyperSwap
exercise.
Our outsourcers had set Copy Services Manager to choose Freeze/Go versus
Freeze/Stop in the event of a PPRC failure. This is apparently the most
common setting for sites that use Metro Mirror since it's likely the P
"TSO/E Version 2 Procedures Language MVS/REXX, SC28-1883-1"
"Stop disingenuously picking on him." Is that so?
The "SYSCALL" in REXX is an ADDRESS SYSCALL under the covers - similar
to ADDRESS IPCS/MVS/TSO/ISREDIT or whatever other else. It is the
"ADDRESS" that belongs in REXX. "SYSCALL" is a C
On 8/07/2022 7:17 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
On 07.07.2022 17:45, David Crayford wrote:
On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
On 06.07.2022 11:03, Seymour J Metz wrote:
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There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any
others: Java. For every problem
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 22:51:38 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
>
>... The business logic was totally scrambled, sometimes by "old-timer"
> tricks like non-reentrant branch gates and other such no-no's under current
> maintainability and pipeline-flush avoidance rules, other times just by
>
>From 1995...
https://books.google.com/books?id=L_AXQqZphvYC&pg=PP93&lpg=PP93&dq=fedex+cannot+get+off+the+mainframe&source=bl&ots=RJK8q0mlHc&sig=ACfU3U1Go2Rt2LmKmmx6rjISivUeRxhZpg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-ko6oser4AhX9KkQIHVutDp8Q6AF6BAgsEAM#v=onepage&q=fedex%20cannot%20get%20off%20the%20mainframe&f
Tom,
I don't know who the vendor actually was (it wasn't done in my application
area), but a few years ago we tried one of them who had an automated tool of
some kind to do that conversion, and the resulting COBOL code that I was asked
to peer-review was unreadable and unmaintainable. The busi
Why in the heck would you want to do that?
Joe
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 5:32 PM Tom Ross wrote:
> Greetings mainframers!
>
> This has porobbaly been asked and answered, but are there tools or
> companies
> that can convert or help to rewrite assembler applications or just programs
> into COBOL?
On 7/8/2022 2:53 PM, Dave Barry wrote:
No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the mainframe
"next year."
Can't tell you how many folks I've met in the 11th year of their
company's 3-year conversion off the mainframe...
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Edward E.
Greetings mainframers!
This has porobbaly been asked and answered, but are there tools or companies
that can convert or help to rewrite assembler applications or just programs
into COBOL? Any suggestions?
Cheers,
TomR >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<
AKA: Captain COBOL,
Dave Barry wrote:
>No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the
mainframe "next year."
What, you expected them to do it OVERNIGHT?
I'm here all week.
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No surprise. FedEx announce years ago that they were getting off the mainframe
"next year."
Sincerely,
Winston Smith
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The $VS JES command requires a string that when parsed for double quotes to
single quotes ( -> '') is a valid MVS command. The proper nesting of
duplicated quotes can be tricky
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Here is an example of a command with a space.
F CICS,CEMT PER,SHUT
Rob
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 3:28 PM Tony Harminc wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 13:03, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> >
> > Time for an RCF; embedded blanks are bog common in, e.g., SEND.
>
> Though those on SEND must be within a quot
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 13:03, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> Time for an RCF; embedded blanks are bog common in, e.g., SEND.
Though those on SEND must be within a quoted string. Blanks otherwise
are highly significant. Many's the poor person who's conflated the TSO
SEND command with console SEND, and e
Yeah, that "savings" seems unlikely given cost of cloud usage. But as
someone noted, OpEx vs. CapEx, plus folks moving on before the excrement
hits the rotating object, could explain it all.
Rex Pommier wrote, in part:
> I finally got a physical drive mapping from them and discovered it was
sib
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 17:23:53 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>I had assumed that START would accept spaces as long as they are framed in
>apostrophes, but the OS/360 documentation only mentions parentheses. I've
>submitted an RCF, citing REPLY and SEND as commands that definitely accept
>embedded s
In the MVS System Commands manual I see
parameters
Program parameters passed to the started program. This might be a list in
parentheses or a string in single quotation marks.
It does not specifically mention blanks, but it does mention quotation
marks.
Charles
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As does MODIFY, which I think of as very analogous to START, since the data
ends up in more or less the same place.
Charles
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I had assumed that START would accept spaces as long as they are framed in
apostrophes, but the OS/360 documentation only mentions parentheses. I've
submitted an RCF, citing REPLY and SEND as commands that definitely accept
embedded spaces.
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Thanks to everyone who answered. I'll raise the RCF.
If I issue the start... command on the console (non sdsf) it loses the
stuff after the blank.
If I use f PYT,'COLIN D3ta' it is fine.
I was doing it as a unit test, and I do not think most people know this
capability exists.
Colin
On Fri, 8
Time for an RCF; embedded blanks are bog common in, e.g., SEND.
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Bill Godfrey [bgodfrey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 8
The fourth positional parameter of START has been around since the early days
of OS/360; the documentation mentions parentheses but not apostrophes as
framing characters.
Separately, what are the SDSF rules for / when the command operand contains a
space, e.g., to enter the command F FOO,'BAR B
W dniu 07.07.2022 o 11:02, ITschak Mugzach pisze:
I am looking for a cross reference between fmid, product number and product
name. I found partial data for z/os components, but looking for the entire
list. Is there such a list?
There is no such list available. Note, there is no 1:1 relationshi
The following scenario:
ITOM 3.1.0.55 is installed on z/OS 2.4
Some JES2 identifiers were changed (OWNMEMB, MEMBER name), as well as
sysname and sysplex name.
Now ITOM claims the following error:
BJT28001I Selector Class H failed, Origin Node has error
followed by BJT13003E
JESSPOOL cla
You generalize at your own risk. The subject of the post is very general, and
the processing likely differs across commands. And might even vary depending on
how you issue the command (e.g., operator console, SDSF, mgcre).
This might be a "how do I issue any command with a blank in it, using SDS
On this page of the z/OS MVS System Commands manual, under "operands" it says
"no embedded blanks".
It refers to commands in general, not just the "start" command.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=formats-typical-format
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Colin,
Similar situation. 3rd party vendor enterprise level disk hardware. Sharing
the spindles between z/OS and Oracle on *nix. Everything was happy until one
day the mainframe performance hit a wall. Disk vendor blamed everybody else
until I got some RMF reports that showed response time
Before "cloud" I worked with one government agency who moved from z/OS to
"virtualisation on utility platform" - basically x86 on-prem. They found
they needed more x86 capacity than they planned for, and then had 3 vendors
to worry about. I got involved in a performance problem and could see
abou
Enterprise PL/I
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Subject: Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times
+1
On 2
Not spending $400 million in one place to spend 2x, 3x... more in another
is how I have seen the statistics work for some orgs, noting different
amounts of spend of course.
Please note that I have no insight into things at FedEx or how this was
calculated.
It will be interesting to see, if shared,
+1
On 2022-07-08 10:51, Dave Jones wrote:
Timothy Sipples said:
"Which leads to an interesting thought exercise. In 2022 if you're trying to choose
a programming language for business application programming that stands the best chance
of being durable (being realistically maintainable, exten
I was told
If it executes
1. a million times a second - write in assembler
2. a thousand times a second write it in cobol or C
3. once a second - write it in Java
4. Else /bash/rexx/
Though if it executes once a year and runs for a week- I might look at C
Colin
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at
Timothy Sipples said:
"Which leads to an interesting thought exercise. In 2022 if you're trying to
choose a programming language for business application programming that stands
the best chance of being durable (being realistically maintainable, extendable,
enhance-able) for the next 40+ years
LOL, I really enjoyed this.
I've probably posted it here before, but an old joke:
Jack was a COBOL programmer in the late 1990s who (after years of being
taken for granted and treated as a technological dinosaur by all the UNIX
programmers and Client/Server programmers and website developers, etc
Hey Gm folks, anybody having issues with creating an order for rsu maintenance
on shopz? I am trying to create a new maintenance order and upload the
consolidated inventory report in step 2 of 5 but I keep getting the error
below. First attempt was yesterday but it's still not working today. By
That number was announced at their investors meeting 2 weeks ago. Trying so
hard to get the stock back over 300. And trying to get a multiple like UPS.
There’s no way they achieve 400 million annually.
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Hard to believe saving $400 million annually. I assume they are factoring in
Microsoft Azure costs.
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True. But that’s capitalism. Where money is worshipped and workers are
expendable. It’s time unions made a comeback.
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On Friday, July 8, 2022, 5:28 AM, Ronald Wells
<02ebc63ff5ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
And the winner is...top 1%
-Origina
This is hilarious.
The datacenter is dead – at least according to FedEx, which announced plans to
close its server farms and transition completely to the cloud, where it hopes
to save an estimated $400 million annually.
The insinuation being the “cloud” will replace servers. When the reality is
On 08.07.2022 03:38, David Crayford wrote:
On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
When I select a language for a job, one of the things that I look at is the ecosystem. I prefer
ooRexx to Perl, but I find myself using
Perl for some tasks because CPAN is an awesome resource. Python may no
On 07.07.2022 17:45, David Crayford wrote:
On 7/07/2022 7:53 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
On 06.07.2022 11:03, Seymour J Metz wrote:
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There is one ecosystem that beats Perl, Python and practically any others: Java. For every
problem domain, for new emerging technologies there are
And the winner is...top 1%
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Bit of a shock this one. FedEx
Bit of a shock this one. FedEx are closing all of their data centers and
moving to Microsofts Azure Cloud. They are a massive mainframe customer
and close friends of ours for a long time.
We had one of their guys on the floor in our office working with us on
solutions. Times are changing...
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