On 19/03/2024 12:40 pm, David Crayford wrote:
We utilize both languages, selecting the most suitable for each task at hand.
Our primary application runs on Java using the Spring Boot framework. We
orchestrate records originating from various z/OS data sources, transforming
them into JSON or
> On 19 Mar 2024, at 9:08 am, Andrew Rowley
> wrote:
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> On 19/03/2024 11:05 am, David Crayford wrote:
>> If you’re care so much about Java catching errors at compile time then why
>> don’t you use Kotlin instead? NPE’s are one of the most common form of Java
>> runtime errors that can be
On 19/03/2024 11:05 am, David Crayford wrote:
If you’re care so much about Java catching errors at compile time then why
don’t you use Kotlin instead? NPE’s are one of the most common form of Java
runtime errors that can be eliminated using Kotlins null safety.
Java's not perfect, but it is
One of the things that makes a language useful is a large library. You can
start using, e.g., Ada, C++, Java, LaTeX, ooRexx, Perl, Python, with only a
handful of packages, and look for others as the need arises.
BTDT,GTTS
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Python has had type hints for ages
https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html. If you use an IDE you can set
the review to block commits if liniting fails.
If you’re care so much about Java catching errors at compile time then why
don’t you use Kotlin instead? NPE’s are one of the most
On 19/03/2024 10:01 am, Farley, Peter wrote:
IMHO the learning curve for Java and all the libraries you have to know and
understand to make it at all useful far outweighs its presumptive establishment
in the z/OS ecosystem.
You really don't have to learn a lot of libraries to use Java.
On 19/03/2024 9:53 am, Pew, Curtis G wrote:
You get used to the “significant indentation” thing pretty quickly. It really
makes sense: you should be indenting blocks anyway to make them easy to read,
so why clutter things up with braces or keywords?
Most scripting languages (including REXX)
IMHO the learning curve for Java and all the libraries you have to know and
understand to make it at all useful far outweighs its presumptive establishment
in the z/OS ecosystem.
Again IMHO Python is intended to be a scripting language and as such it shares
much design philosophy with Rexx
On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Rowley wrote:
Why Python? I know it's the latest hot language, but what advantages does it
have over e.g. Java (well established on z/OS)?
The context here was using Python in place of REXX. It’s a scripting language,
meaning you can just write your text
On 16/03/2024 11:17 am, David Crayford wrote:
IBM and ISVs are working on Python APIs for products right now. And they will
be better than the REXX versions.
Why Python? I know it's the latest hot language, but what advantages
does it have over e.g. Java (well established on z/OS)?
I have
This is related to Algol 60, IMO, not Algol 68. Algol 60 had a big
influence on some machines in the 1960s.
The German mainframe Telefunken TR4, designed in the late 1950s, was a
fully transistorized machine and was for some
years the fastest machine built in Europe. And, as Dijkstra once
Hi,A port to USS OMVS sounds perfect... :)
Dan
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On Monday, March 18, 2024, 5:57 PM, Rick Troth
<058ff5c2d0a7-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
I try to maintain working copies of Gnu COBOL in the Chicory collection.
Presently we have Gnu COBOL 3.2 for
I try to maintain working copies of Gnu COBOL in the Chicory collection.
Presently we have Gnu COBOL 3.2 for FreeBSD (64 bit), AMD/Intel Linux
(64-bit and 32-bit), and Z or S390 Linux (64-bit and 31-bit).
rsync://chic.casita.net/opt/gnucobol-3.2/
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On 3/16/24 15:36, Mark Jacobs
Keep in mind that ESPOL had a statement for every B6700 opcode, althogh I
suspect that they were used very sparsely in MCP.
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http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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I cut my teeth on Algol also at university - on a Burroughs B6700 mainframe
running MCP. Burroughs at the time were unique in that there was no
assembler language. Everything was written in a HLL, MCP was written in
ESPOL, the compiler for which was written in DCAlgol. That was just Algol
with
Nothing I’ve stated is untrue. The jealousy from likely non college graduates
is obvious.
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On Monday, March 18, 2024, 11:16 AM, David Crayford
<0595a051454b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On 18 Mar 2024, at 22:33, Dave Beagle
>
Ruby is available on *ix and W; if you're going by use then you probably want
Java and Python.
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> On 18 Mar 2024, at 22:33, Dave Beagle
> <0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> LOL, I was a programmer for almost half my 40+ year career. IMS/COBOL DB/DC
> at first. Later mostly COBOL CICS and COBOL DB2. So I’m excellent in COBOL.
> In college, I programmed in PL/I,
LOL, I was a programmer for almost half my 40+ year career. IMS/COBOL DB/DC at
first. Later mostly COBOL CICS and COBOL DB2. So I’m excellent in COBOL. In
college, I programmed in PL/I, fortran, watfiv, pascal, and some others. Logic
is my forte. Math major helps. (Double major Comp Sci)
As
Perl...what environment(s) is it available in? My usual coding platforms are
z/OS (specifically TSO) and Windows, mostly MS Office.
I don't actually know PowerShell; I've been exposed to it, see that it's very
powerful for some purposes, and have modified PS scripts in minor ways. In
other
If you are running on z/OS 2.5 or above, you can issue the "JCS" action against
the row on the "CSR" panel and that will show each individual block of common
storage which you can then browse using the "S" action.
This will allow you to see if you recognize the contents of the block.
It is
Go (Golang) Version 1.22 is now available for z/OS. You can install this
release traditionally, and it now also includes a container image that runs on
the new IBM z/OS Container Platform. Details here:
Go 1.22 emerges as an exceptional release by addressing an enduring loop
variable issue. This update rectifies the loop variable oversight and
introduces several enhancements that streamline code execution and enhance
developer productivity. The new syntactic sugar for iterating over integers
The documentation for IBM z/OS Container Platform is now available here:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zoscp/1.1.0
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