Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Perryman
was prepared before performing the stores.  I think the window is so small that even under heavy usage, you would only see an error every couple of months but it does exist. I think TCB2 must also use the PLO compare and load to avoid this situation. Thanks for the great information, Jon Perry

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
inframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >Behalf Of Jon Perryman >Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 2:42 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Serialization without Enque > >Thanks for pointing out that it's required to do the PLO COMPARE against the

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
and FETCH. In Kenneth's example where he uses PLO to save 64 bit addresses (which is 2 words), he can't use LG to reference the 64 bit address otherwise he risks using high and low register values that do not match. Is that correct? Jon Perryman. >__

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
their end user programming languages. Jon Perryman. > > From: John Gilmore > > > >His riposte---It is not responsive---to my  last post employs a >rhetorical device that wa

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
Thanks Binyamin. Also a great example but it brings me to another question. What is the advantage of using PLO compare and fetch? Is it just saving CPU time in the case where the counter has changed? Is there another advantage that I'm not thinking about? Jon Per

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
Thanks Kenneth. Excellent example. I didn't consider that the load for the counter must be first to cause the serialization. Jon Perryman. > > From: Kenneth Wilkerson > > > >I have used PLO almost exclusively for serialization in multi-a

aggressive drivers was: Interesting? How _compilers_ are compromising application security

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
one would probably steal it. Jon Perryman. > > From: Robert A. Rosenberg > > >At 21:16 + on 10/30/2013, DASDBILL2 wrote about Re: Interesting? How >_compilers_ are compromising applicati: > >> At first, aggressive drivers drove faste

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
contiguous storage, there is not any method that will guarantee the 3 values are consistent with the others. A counter as suggested by Peter Relson won't help either for this same reason. I can't think of a situation where PLO CSDST is useful. Can anyone describe a situation where it is u

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
I think Itschak is saying that SRB's can't do I/O, therefore they can't write files to embed a virus or read confidential data. I think he's under the impression that SRB's can't get access to everything they desire. Jon Perryman.    >

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
n of our code is now being consider SRB eligible. Some of that code run's under TCB's that never had authorization where end users could never abuse it will now be a potential exposure.  Proverbial saying: can't see the forest for the tree's. Jon Perryman >___

Re: BBC News - Russia: Hidden chips 'launch spam attacks from irons'

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
sider that you can easily get access through a coffee shop. If this is true, then just stop ironing your clothes to avoid the risk. ;) I couldn't resist. Jon Perryman. > > From: efinnell15 > > >BBC News - Russia: Hidden chips '

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
key 0. This is exactly where a hacker would want to be in order to hide their tracks and do devious things without getting caught. Jon Perryman. > > From: Itschak Mugzach > > >SRB mode is only needed if you use IBM's supplied API to zIIP. WLM

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
e to take advantage of the authorized state. Something as simple as overlaying storage could create a security exposure and give them access to the authorized state.  Jon Perryman. - Original Message - > From: Peter Relson >  >> SRB's are a big security exposure s

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-02 Thread Jon Perryman
As a last resort, a GRS latch could be used. Jon Perryman. > > From: Tony Harminc > > > >On 1 November 2013 16:22, Donald Likens wrote: >> I have a situation where I need to serialize processing and cannot use CDS >> because t

Re: Allocation problem with LMCOPY

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
less experienced avoid posting for fear of making a mistake. Thanks Shmuel doubt that I would make such a mistake. Jon Perryman..   > > From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > > > >In <5161261496916553.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, o

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
this, they are discouraged from allowing it because their employee's could easily write programs to access anything they wanted.   Jon Perryman. > > From: Clark Morris > > > >>6. zIIP is first restricted by requiring programs run under

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
Since zVM supports zLinux, it makes sense that it allows IFL. Is there a userid option that allows the usage of IFL processors? Or do they use some other method? Does CMS also use that instruction to ensure it runs on a CP? Jon Perryman. > > From: Mar

Re: ISPF statistics

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
I think it will work in a similar manner as IEBGENER RECFM=U support. Jon Perryman. > > From: Thomas Berg > > >> -Original Message- >> Behalf Of nitz-...@gmx.net >> >> > It's certainly possible to have DSORG=

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
he product more expensive to run. If this overhead makes the software significantly more expensive, then vendors will allow both methods. For other vendors, this may be insignificant (e.g. using a single SRB for the life of the product may be possible which would eliminate a lot of the overh

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
clave. Vendors must sign a non-disclosure agreement about this special enclave. I suspect that IBM includes some sort of usage clause in that agreement. Jon Perryman   > > From: Scott Ford > > >After reading this thread, I understand the need

Re: Linux on System z (IFL)

2013-10-26 Thread Jon Perryman
more. I thought that LPAR management doesn't allow you to specify specific CPU's. I thought you simply specified xx% of x IFL CPU's and xx% of 2 CP CPU's. As for adding / reconfiguring CPU's, I think IBM can do this remotely with a dialup to your machine. Jon Perry

Re: GDG question

2013-10-26 Thread Jon Perryman
at you want. As for other commands, you can run your own tests to find out how you can use them. Jon Perryman. - Original Message - > From: Paul Gilmartin > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: GDG question > >

Re: GDG question

2013-10-26 Thread Jon Perryman
G,DELETE) deletes when there is an abend otherwise it catalogs the new version instantaneously without interrupting current users. There's no need to rename the dataset. IBM could easily implement IDCAM's ALTER ALIAS to serve this purpose but GDG's have served us so well fo

Re: GDG question

2013-10-26 Thread Jon Perryman
P=MOD is not helping. DISP=MOD only appends data to the end of a dataset for GDG's (does not create a new dataset as with standard datasets)., it's only benefit for GDG's would be if multiple OPEN / CLOSE occur. Jon Perryman - Original Message - > From: Phil Smith > 

Re: Allocation problem with LMCOPY

2013-10-23 Thread Jon Perryman
nn DD. Jon Perryman. > > From: Paul Gilmartin > > > >On 2013-10-23 10:55, Thomas Berg wrote: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Paul Gilmartin >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 6:45 PM >>> >>>

Re: Allocation problem with LMCOPY

2013-10-23 Thread Jon Perryman
d theoretically use the DDNAMES in the variables for TSO commands but I always use TSO ALLOC for TSO functionality. The advantage of LMINIT is the dynamic DD name generated avoids possible collisions. Jon Perryman. > > From: "Hansen, Dave L - Eagan,

Re: Rexx compiler used for System Automation and Netview?

2013-10-22 Thread Jon Perryman
correctly). I don't think that compiling your programs was a true recommendation. I think the attitude was that since you had the compiler, then you might as well compile your exec's too. Jon Perryman. > > From: Scott Ford > > >Ron: >The

Re: Command output not displayed on Console

2013-10-22 Thread Jon Perryman
f the command. You will see the issuer of the command in SYSLOG which in this case is some internal process. Jon Perryman. > > From: גדי בן אבי >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:21 AM >Subject: Command output not

Re: z/OS IPL Issue

2013-10-21 Thread Jon Perryman
provide full functionality. Wait state codes without messages are typically a last resort situation. SYS1.LPALIB was probably after the coding error which would have made critical LPA programs unavailable. Jon Perryman. > > From: saurabh khandelwal > &g

Re: Clarification of SAC7 Abend

2013-10-20 Thread Jon Perryman
gut feeling is that it's not referencing the correct area and that it is actually invalid. Or maybe the area is not aligned with the passed area. I don't think it's using the STOKEN you think it's using. Jon Perryman. > > From: Ken

Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
are messages that someone felt important to display but will not be seen. Why did they go to the effort of creating these messages? Jon Perryman.. > > From: John Gilmore > > >The ascending severity hierarchy is > >INFO < WARNING < ERR

Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
You are correct but it's very unlikely to be fixed.  The default is FLAG(WARNING) so why does IBM even bother producing informational messages that are conditionally displayed. Does anyone run FLAG(INFO)? Is there anything useful produced?   Jon Per

Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
FLAG does not suppress informational messages (BLS18064I No symbols found). You may feel it should have been a warning but IBM classified it as informational. Jon Perryman. > > From: Don Poitras > > >From the book: > >The FLAG severi

Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
*/ "DROPSYM X:Y NOSUMMARY"     /* drop anything from X to Y */ Jon Perryman. From: "Hardee, Chuck" >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:57 AM >Subject: Re: An IPCS question > > >Thanks Jon, this is the best explanation I've heard so

Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-18 Thread Jon Perryman
at doesn't support FLAG( ), PRINT/NOPRINT and TERMINAL/NOTERMINAL.   Jon Perryman. > > From: "Hardee, Chuck" > > > >I see no reason why one should have to make a DROPSYM conditional as you >suggest. > >You issue the comm

Re: An IPCS question

2013-10-17 Thread Jon Perryman
You need to eliminate the dropsym if it does not exist: address IPCS "EVALSYM " if rc = 0 then      "DROPSYM " Jon Perryman > > From: "Hardee, Chuck" >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Thursday, October 17

Re: Explanation of S0C4 reason 4

2013-10-17 Thread Jon Perryman
type of error. Capture a dump from the abend and determine which product is abending. The hardware seems to be reporting a valid error. The software doesn't abend with unrecoverable I/O error. Instead, it seems to continue happily using the bad data. Jon Per

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
ht be using. 1. You could rename /etc/resolve.cnf so that it does not exist and falls thru. 2. You could have users omit DD SYSTCPD to fall thru 3. You could rename SYS1.TCPPARMS(TCPDATA) to fall thru. 4. You could use TCPIP.TCPIP.DATA as your single TCPDATA so that users don't need to know abo

Re: 0C4 reason code 4 TSO command processor returning from verify exit

2013-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
There are situations where LPA module names are not displayed but that is usually when a module was not referenced thru LINK or LOAD.  Jon Perryman.  > > From: Binyamin Dissen > > > >On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 07:02:10 -0700 Jon Perryman wrote:

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
re implementing GLOBALTCPIPDATA) has either used TCPIP.TCPIP.DATA and far less frequently SYS1.TCPPARMS. Has anyone tried renaming both of these to see if it uses TCPIP SYSTCPD?  Jon Perryman. > > From: David G. Schlecht > > > >I must have

Re: Explanation of S0C4 reason 4

2013-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
had not accessed page 0, it's likely that storage would have been overlayed. At this point, you can cause everyone grief.   Jon Perryman.  > > From: Micheal Butz > > > >When the PSW key bits 8 - 11 don't match the 4K storage key >

Re: 0C4 reason code 4 TSO command processor returning from verify exit

2013-10-16 Thread Jon Perryman
Since module name shows UNKNOWN, the program has probably taken a wild branch into some valid storage (unless he's not using standard program load). Jon Perryman. > > From: Binyamin Dissen > > >Find out which routine is at 0438CBEC > >

Re: 0C4 reason code 4 TSO command processor returning from verify exit

2013-10-15 Thread Jon Perryman
doesn't fix the problem then you might have a storage overlay causing the problem. I suggest adding "J PROG_RETURN". If should run fine if inserted after the STM. Keep moving it until you isolate the instruction that is causing the problem. From there, you can see what storage is po

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-11 Thread Jon Perryman
tion where the common TCPDATA can't be used. If a user reports a problem with TCP, then have them temporarily add a SYSTCPD to the common TCPDATA as verification they are using the correct TCPDATA (note that UNIX for z/OS programs have a couple of situations where SYSTCP

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-08 Thread Jon Perryman
Are you saying that DD SYSTCPD pointing to TCPIP.TCPIP.DATA or SYS1.TCPPARM fixes your problem? These datasets should be picked up without a SYSTCPD DD. I'm confused why you feel using these requires the resolver. Jon Perryman.  > > From: Rob Schram

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-07 Thread Jon Perryman
Is there a reason you can't update TCPIP.TCPIP.DATA or SYS1.TCPPARMS with the change?  Jon Perryman. > > From: David G. Schlecht > > >We have a solution, or at least a workaround. We'll continue to add SYSTCPD to >every job

Re: Performanxe Of BPX1GHN (WAS NSLOOKUP MVS vs OMVS)

2013-10-06 Thread Jon Perryman
dinates to z/OS and z/OS can't reach them because of your network setup. You could use NSLOOKUP with the same name servers and see how it responds. Jon Perryman > > From: "esst...@juno.com" > > > >The issue I experienced, was tha

Re: SET CONSOLE every time you invoke SDSF ULOG

2013-10-04 Thread Jon Perryman
the system log. Security is difficult to create for it.  My suggest is to use ISPF variables &ZUSER and &ZSCREEN. You don't need an exec. Just modify the command to PARM(SET CONSOLE &ZUSER.&ZSCREEN) Jon Perryman. > > From: Yashshri

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-01 Thread Jon Perryman
z/UNIX and z/OS have a different search order in locating the TCPIP.DATA that is used. In your case, you are maintaining 2 different files. Look at the IP Configuration Guide and search for TCPIP.DATA (I think). You should find a section that describes the search order. Jon Perryman

Re: Need Help with an ARR

2013-09-30 Thread Jon Perryman
Abend diagnostics and abend recovery are equally important in abend recovery. Implementing both is certainly recommended. This is simply a question about obtaining dumps as part of the diagnostics. Jon Perryman > > From: John Gilmore > > >The

Re: Need Help with an ARR

2013-09-30 Thread Jon Perryman
Are there situations where SETRP won't work versus SDUMPX? Jon Perryman. > > From: Peter Relson > > >As with any recovery routine (including an FRR), as Binyamin noted, you  >identify what to dump by requesting the dump (with SDUMPX) wi

Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.

2013-09-25 Thread Jon Perryman
The drawback to HSM migrate is that the datasets are migrated until the next use. If the use of any of these datasets can't tolerate the recall delay, then you will need to ensure it get's recalled before that time. Jon Perryman. > > F

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Jon Perryman
For official character conversion in assembler, see the IBM manual "z/OS Unicode Services User's Guide and Reference"  which documents use of their unicode services. Jon Perryman.   > > From: Steve Comstock > > >Actually, COBOL ha

Re: List out all Indirect catalogued datasets

2013-09-20 Thread Jon Perryman
I would try using DFDSS to move datasets. You would specify the origin volume and recatalog. I don't have a system to try this on so I can't say it will work. I would expect that IBM took these indirect volumes into account. Jon Perryman.  >

Re: IEBCOPY - "MOVE"

2013-09-17 Thread Jon Perryman
If you have the "ISPF Productivity Toolkit'   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0936.html installed, then you can use it's batch utility. Alternatively and free, it would very easy to write a REXX exec using ISPEXEC LMMOVE and running a batch ISPF job

Re: Mainframe On Cloud

2013-09-15 Thread Jon Perryman
of these numbers comes close to reflecting a true comparison.  Jon Perryman   > > From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler > > > >previously a 1st generation e5-2600 at 527BIPS is the equivalent of 10.5 >max configured z196 80 processor systems. &g

Re: Mainframe On Cloud

2013-09-15 Thread Jon Perryman
on as z/OS. So far, it seems to be doing well. Jon Perryman.     > > From: David Crayford >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 6:22 AM >Subject: Re: Mainframe On Cloud > > >Are there any real world SaaS offeri

Re: Wait all CPU's enabled at least once

2013-09-12 Thread Jon Perryman
I asked out of curiosity. I wanted to read how it worked. I wondered if it is really fast and how it avoided a deadly embrace. Jon Perryman.  - Original Message - > From: Elardus Engelbrecht >  > Jon Perryman wrote: > >> Is there an instruction that waits for all C

Re: Recursive SSI abend - Was: SSI update

2013-09-11 Thread Jon Perryman
help. Since the SSI is called regularly, this probably is not be a recursive abend. Jon Perryman. > > From: mf db > >Apology for the confusion, Recently in one of my test system I added a >subsystem to SSI and i have started experiencing recursiv

Wait all CPU's enabled at least once

2013-09-11 Thread Jon Perryman
Is there an instruction that waits for all CPU's to be enabled at least once? Jon Perryman. - Original Message - > From: Jim Mulder >  > CPU Offline processing turns off the CSD alive bit, and zeros the > PCCAVT and LCCAVT entries for the CPU that is going offline

Re: COBOL "problem" (not really), but sort of.

2013-09-11 Thread Jon Perryman
the 01 section (not by the program that called his program).  Jon Perryman. - Original Message - > From: John McKown >  > The problem is how do I describe this to a COBOL programmer who just > doesn't "get it". He expects COBOL to _not_ pad the "non

Re: SSI update

2013-09-11 Thread Jon Perryman
our program overlays the wrong storage, then it can cause abends. Great care must be taken in programs that run from the SSI. The SSI runs all the time and in all address spaces. If something bad happens, you could be IPL'ing your system.  Jon Perryman..  >

Re: How much can sysprogs steal was Re: OT: Obscurity Is Not Security... Or Is It?

2013-09-09 Thread Jon Perryman
I heard that the NSA proposed solution for the snowden problem is to require 2 people to access sensitive information. I wonder if the logon screens will require dual userid's. Jon Perryman. > > From: Clark Morris > >>Sysprogs, even di

Re: OT: Obscurity Is Not Security... Or Is It?

2013-09-09 Thread Jon Perryman
the line or in a specific subpool. How about unintentional exposures by storage overlay errors. It's impossible to find every exposure. Jon Perryman.  > > From: Ray Overby > > > >There is a software product called z/Assure Vulnera

Re: OT: Obscurity Is Not Security... Or Is It?

2013-09-09 Thread Jon Perryman
;t exposed you in ways you did not consider (e.g. from home). You trust they will be suspicious when someone calls saying they are one of your software vendors.  Jon Perryman. > > From: Tom Marchant > > > >On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 20:37:14 -0700, J

Re: Currently dispatched TCB in SRB mode

2013-09-08 Thread Jon Perryman
Data area's says that serialization is disablement. Does  this mean you need to run disabled or lock the CPU associated with the PCCA in question? Jon Perryman. > > From: Micheal Butz >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Sunday, Septembe

Re: OT: Obscurity Is Not Security... Or Is It?

2013-09-08 Thread Jon Perryman
some users but not others. APF libraries are limited and access restricted but some users must have access. Sysprogs get more access to system datasets when installing new releases and updates. We consider these to be secure but there are ways you can get at them with luck, persistence

Re: Destination z: Strolling Down Memory (Core) Lane

2013-09-08 Thread Jon Perryman
WOW. How did it use drum as main memmory? Did it have like 1K of real memory and have hardware to move from drum upon address resolution? Or is drum a similar architecture to ram? Jon Perryman. > > From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > > > > 

Re: Searching for a SUBMIT and WRITER tool

2013-09-05 Thread Jon Perryman
If you have an automation product, then you can use it to take the action needed. You could trigger off of the job submitted rate or the JES number of lines exceeded message. You could place jobs on hold. Jon Perryman. > > From: Miklos Szigetvari >

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