Hi Bob,
On 02.07.2022 22:06, Bob Bridges wrote:
Rony, could you (or someone) say more about that? The ooRexx documentation has
a lot to say about messaging, which is a bit confusing to me because I first
got a handle on OOP in VBA and VBSCript, which do not.
VBA and VBS would allow
, July 2, 2022 4:06 PM
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Rony, could you (or someone) say more about that? The ooRexx documentation has
a lot to say about messaging, which is a bit confusing to me
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Yes, perhaps the best example :-)
On Sun, 3 Jul 2022, 12:01 David Crayford, wrote:
> IIRC Lisp was designed in 1956. That must have been ground breaking at the
> time.
>
> > On 3 Jul 2022, at 18:51, Rupert Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > The thing about Smalltalk (and a lot of other developments) is
IIRC Lisp was designed in 1956. That must have been ground breaking at the
time.
> On 3 Jul 2022, at 18:51, Rupert Reynolds wrote:
>
> The thing about Smalltalk (and a lot of other developments) is just how old
> they are. And we keep re-inventing some things. Smalltalk was remarkable in
>
The thing about Smalltalk (and a lot of other developments) is just how old
they are. And we keep re-inventing some things. Smalltalk was remarkable in
1970-ish. Lambdas in Algol-68, but it wasn't the first I believe, and they
can be tracked back further to maths in 1932.
Great insights in the
He wasn't too complementary about Java either. I never used Smalltalk
but I've seen examples in the GoF Design Patterns book. Guys I've spoken
to that used it extensively talk very fondly about it.
On 3/07/2022 5:37 am, Rupert Reynolds wrote:
I can't remember which of Alan Kay's talks it's
I can't remember which of Alan Kay's talks it's in, but I have a few of his
saved and one or two have him saying "the big idea is messaging" and
something like "whatever I had in mind, I can tell you now it wasn't C++"
:-)
The late great Joe Armstrong (of Erlang fame) also quoted Alan Kay on this
Rony, could you (or someone) say more about that? The ooRexx documentation has
a lot to say about messaging, which is a bit confusing to me because I first
got a handle on OOP in VBA and VBSCript, which do not. If the big idea is
messaging, does VBA do that and I just didn't notice? Or are
Alan Kay is regarded to have coined the term "object-oriented programming (OOP)" in the context of
his work while at PARC. He is being cited on Wikipedia:
I'm sorry that I long ago coined the term "objects" for this topic because
it gets many people
to focus on the lesser idea. The big
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