On Wed, 23 Aug 2023, at 21:59, David Crayford wrote:
>You are never too old to learn new things.
Cognitive decline happens with illness and/or age. Don't
assume it won't happen to you too.
There comes a point where although one could make a huge
effort to learn new ways of doing old things,
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> On 24/8/2023 3:51 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> Sure, but where are the data coming from? If it's a block-mode terminal on
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On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 10:44:08AM +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > Maybe people say so because they expected something else.
>
> "Humor is such a subjective thing!" (B5). My guess is that the quip
> came from an emacs user who was perfectly content with it.
I sensed humor there, but, well...
I can see both sides of this. On the one hand I accept that once I'm used to
sticking my key into the door of the car, it takes time and thought (when I get
one of those new-fangled fobs) to turn it over and find the right button and
push it instead. And why take time and thought when it
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> On 24/8/2023 3:51 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> Sure, but where are the data coming from? If it's a block-mode terminal on
&g
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> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> It's a start, but I would love the opportunity to
(was: Re: Has anyone)
On 24/8/2023 3:51 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> Sure, but where are the data coming from? If it's a block-mode terminal on
> one end of the SSH session, then you have the same issue. If it's a PC on one
> end of the signal then it can send individual characters.
> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> It's a start, but I would love the opportunity to fork out $ for a full
> clone. Not that I have any objections to using free software when it suits my
> needs, but I won't ignore a useful program just because it's not open source.
>
By definition it's not just a good indicator, it's a perfect indicator, that
the editor lacks the feature(s) I wanted for my own idiosyncratic use. I don't
usually fault the editor for that; I can almost always think up features that
no one else would want.
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On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Still
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> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10
> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
>> Still finding this hard to recreate using ISPF with edit macros
>
> On a PC it's easy to examine every keystroke as it comes in
PC? That’s running in a Linux shell over SSH. Vim doesn’t need to run on a PC
for full duplex. It’s a
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On 23/8/2023 10:29 am, Steve Beaver wrote:
> I have tried VI and I find it to slow. I would use eMacs. Prefer to ispf
> ported to Linux/Unix.
https://github.com/daniel64/lspf
> I have used ISPF for ever and i can out do and any using VI 10 to
gust 22, 2023 11:47 PM
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:51:00PM +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > I was just using emacs as ordinary text editor
>
> For me, an ordinary text editor is one that includes a good macro
> f
Whoops! Forgot the link https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode
> On 23 Aug 2023, at 12:19 pm, David Crayford wrote:
>
> I noticed that there is LSP support for Emacs. That's super important in the
> modern world of language servers.
>
> On 23/8/2023 9:32 am, Tomasz Rola wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug
I noticed that there is LSP support for Emacs. That's super important in
the modern world of language servers.
On 23/8/2023 9:32 am, Tomasz Rola wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 08:44:30AM +0100, Rupert Reynolds wrote:
I remember using ed. Via a 2400bps modem :-)
Aha. Ed and vi are still being
On 23/8/2023 10:29 am, Steve Beaver wrote:
I have tried VI and I find it to slow. I would use eMacs. Prefer to ispf ported
to Linux/Unix.
https://github.com/daniel64/lspf
I have used ISPF for ever and i can out do and any using VI 10 to ispf written
for Linux/Unix
hahaha! Still finding
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:51:00PM +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > I was just using emacs as ordinary text editor
>
> For me, an ordinary text editor is one that includes a good macro
> facility, and I write new macros at the drop of a hat. If and when I
> learn emacs, learning LISP will be part
I have tried VI and I find it to slow. I would use eMacs. Prefer to ispf ported
to Linux/Unix. I have used ISPF for ever and i can out do and any using VI 10
to ispf written for Linux/Unix
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No one said I could type with one thumb
> On Aug 22, 2023, at 20:32, Tomasz Rola
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 08:44:30AM +0100, Rupert Reynolds wrote:
> I remember using ed. Via a 2400bps modem :-)
Aha. Ed and vi are still being praised by various people for their
ability to use such a narrow bandwith.
> I'm told the thing with emacs is that, if you like it, it can end up being
>
> On 22 Aug 2023, at 10:10 pm, Gord Tomlin
> wrote:
>
> On 2023-08-22 07:17 AM, David Crayford wrote:
>> https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/
>
> That looks like a gem!
Oh yeah! It’s next level and it's an incremental parser.
>
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On 2023-08-22 07:17 AM, David Crayford wrote:
https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/
That looks like a gem!
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I remember using:
0lt$$
(the $$ is how escape-escape echoed.)
More times than I can count... but then again, it's what you had to do when
programming on a teletype
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On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 02:57:55PM +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > But I'll counter with, why should people need to learn -- what I'll
> > politely call -- a non-intuitive editor to do occasional simple edits
> > of text files?
>
> U
On 22/8/2023 4:12 am, Leonard D Woren wrote:
Bob Bridges wrote on 8/16/2023 8:23 AM:
Too many years ago; I don't remember. And it isn't as if
"unintuitive" is a
fatal error in editors or any other application; TECO (anyone ever use
that?) is a powerful editor - it was on the PDP platform as I
I remember using ed. Via a 2400bps modem :-)
I'm told the thing with emacs is that, if you like it, it can end up being
almost your whole development environment, so you feel lost without it.
I ended up writing my own editor twice (once for TSO and 3278, again for
Windoze). Both can run without
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 02:57:55PM +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > But I'll counter with, why should people need to learn -- what I'll
> > politely call -- a non-intuitive editor to do occasional simple edits
> > of text files?
>
> Understood, but vi and emacs are still on my list of software
Heh, heh, a decedent, really? So vi really is dead?
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Bob Bridges wrote on 8/16/2023 8:23 AM:
> Too many years
LOL, yeah, I guess that's true. But I found it pretty powerful at the time,
before full-screen editors were available to me.
Actually I still think it was powerful. There are reasons to like WordPad, for
instance (which I use extensively for low-level documentation), but when I want
to do
Bob Bridges wrote on 8/16/2023 8:23 AM:
Too many years ago; I don't remember. And it isn't as if "unintuitive" is a
fatal error in editors or any other application; TECO (anyone ever use
that?) is a powerful editor - it was on the PDP platform as I recall - with
early automation features that I
He had me at "Supports EBCDIC". The other 2 hex editors on my PC don't,
and I've had trouble in the past trying to convert in my head,
especially lower case. One time I remember running a test and purposely
used only numbers as data because I could translate those easily.
On 8/19/2023 10:29
Other advantages of HxD are:
1. It can edit large files. Much larger than you RAM.
2. It can be set up to "support LRECL" - very useful when working with
files downloaded from z/OS (without CRLF).
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W dniu 16.08.2023 o 00:46, Charles Mills pisze:
I use it.
and will even work with XMIT within XMIT.
I bought a license about 8 years back for very little.
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I use MS Office Pro Plus
On 8/18/23 9:57 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
Understood, but vi and emacs are still on my list of software to learn.
It's been a LONG time since I've gone through it, but I can say that
vimtutor (command) worked well for me back in the day.
I've had fun playing VIM Adventures
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On 8/17/23 6:28 AM, David Crayford
On 8/17/23 6:28 AM, David Crayford wrote:
This joke never fails to amuse me:
https://jokejet.com/lady-gaga-tries-to-exit-vim/.
I'm as tired of exit vi jokes as I am people acting as if the mainframe
doesn't include contemporary technology.
Is there anyone left who still uses vi?
I use a
> On 17 Aug 2023, at 9:27 pm, David Spiegel
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>
> Hi David,
> I learned VIM because my job was expanded to add responsibility for Linux and
> AIX software installation and maintenance.
> (I am no expert, but), ISPF Edit has the ability to
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On 17/8/2023 5:41 am, Phil Smith III wrote:
Bob Bridges wrote, in part:
I once spent an agonizing half-hour trying to help a Unix programmer
code a program in a language I know using some kind of Unix editor
that was so unintuitive I could
Hi David,
I learned VIM because my job was expanded to add responsibility for
Linux and AIX software installation and maintenance.
(I am no expert, but), ISPF Edit has the ability to do an an intelligent
change where changing A to AB (or vice versa) it tries to keep the rest
of the line the
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On 17/8/2023 5:41 am, Phil Smith III wrote:
> Bob Bridges wrote, in part:
>> I once spent an agonizing half-hour trying to help a Unix programmer
>> code a program in a language I know using some kind of Unix editor
>> that was so unint
Sounds like emacs Once opened I couldnt wait to get out
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> On Aug 16, 2023, at 17:42, Phil Smith III wrote:
>
>> I once spent an agonizing half-hour trying to help a Unix programmer
>> code a program in a language I know using some kind of Unix editor
>> that
On 17/8/2023 5:41 am, Phil Smith III wrote:
Bob Bridges wrote, in part:
I once spent an agonizing half-hour trying to help a Unix programmer
code a program in a language I know using some kind of Unix editor
that was so unintuitive I could hardly accomplish anything.
As Shmuel suggests, that
On 8/16/2023 5:41 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:
As Shmuel suggests, that sounds like vi or one of its relatives. The
best description of vi I've ever heard is:>
"vi has two modes: one where it corrupts your data, and one where it
beeps at you."
Chuckle.
That's good.
But there are more modes. I
On 8/16/2023 5:41 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:
As Shmuel suggests, that sounds like vi or one of its
relatives. The best description of vi I've ever heard is:
"vi has two modes: one where it corrupts your data, and one where it beeps at
you."
++1
I have a cert for being able to use vi from the
Bob Bridges wrote, in part:
>I once spent an agonizing half-hour trying to help a Unix programmer
>code a program in a language I know using some kind of Unix editor
>that was so unintuitive I could hardly accomplish anything.
As Shmuel suggests, that sounds like vi or one of its relatives. The
I've occasionally thought of writing a TECO-like editor for myself. But what
with ISPF Edit macros, and ooRexx, and like that, I guess there isn't really
much point, is there? Unless it's just for fun...
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Too many years ago; I don't remember. And it isn't as if "unintuitive" is a
fatal error in editors or any other application; TECO (anyone ever use
that?) is a powerful editor - it was on the PDP platform as I recall - with
early automation features that I used extensively, and it was full of odd
It really depends on your requirements, but for many years we have used a
Docbook based approach for our technical documentation, which allows us to
easily generate HTML, PDF, and man page versions of our documentation. It's
a bit of work getting the XSL styles tweaked to your liking, but
?
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Fair point, but my clients hire me as a mainframe geek. I do know other
things, but most of my income is from mainframe security, with occasional
forays into coding for MS Office. So from my point of view, "the real thing"
is MS Office. My oldest daughter is a Linux fan; I've never used it.
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I've ranted on this before so I'll make it short: I finally, maybe a year ago
Find me one in the USofA that is Linux centric.
I went to Linux desktops about 2002 because M/S was not going to
put USB drivers into NT 4.0 at midlife. Suse Linux 7 something
in a box did not install very well. So I went off to Lindows.
Then Linspire and finally back to Suse Linux. I
On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 16:58:27 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote:
>
>... My little sister reminds me from time to time that OpenOffice is just
> as good, but I don't want to write something for a client and then find out
> that it isn't QUITE the same as the real thing.
>
"Real thing" depends on
I use both Libre Office and Ashampoo office. The Ashampoo products are like
MS-Office used to be. Not overloaded with features I don't need and each
component offers compatible file formats with MS-Office. Costs about $20. I
have a number of other Ashampoo products for disk backup, video editing,
I use it. I have nothing to really compare it to, but it does the job for me.
Supports EBCDIC.
Charles
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For a HEX viewr, try the V fileviewer
August 2023 21:55
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I use MS Office Pro Plus, but it's still 2019. No plans to upgrade until I
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For example, some years ago I set out to f
I've ranted on this before so I'll make it short: I finally, maybe a year ago,
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and those at another listserv about markup languages, and then took a week off
to learn to use LaTeX. I'm ~much~ happier with that.
I have Pro-Plus too, and I'm definitely an individual contractor.
And yes, I too fork over the money for it, whenever I get a new PC, because it
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Has anyone broken down and bought Microsoft Office 2021 Profess
Guys and gals. Than you for all your input
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I have both M/S
I have both M/S office products and Libre Office on W10 & W11
laptops. The reason for that is, clients are tied to M/S so I
have to use Office 365 for interfacing with them. I use Libre
office when I do not want M/S to use One Drive, or otherwise
don't need M/S software (We have our own file
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documentation is the sample files - someone
please tell me I am wrong about that - and it appears that what IBM
distributed as the sample file for V2R4
/usr/lpp/tcpip/samples/pagent_TTLS.conf is actually the V2R3 sample, which
(of course) contains no TLS v1.3.
Has anyone gotten this working? Would
no TLS v1.3.
Has anyone gotten this working? Would you be willing to share your
configuration changes for those remaining steps in the link above?
I don't have access at this moment to a V2R5 system. Has the sample been
updated there? If so, is anyone willing to slip a copy to me? If not, can
you
> another, I tried using the VSAM REPRO ENCIPHER facility, and could not
> get
> > it working.
> > I suspect it hasnt been used for years (grin)
> > Has anyone got any JCL which worked, and information about th
olin Paice pisze:
As part of looking into copying encrypted data sets from one system to
another, I tried using the VSAM REPRO ENCIPHER facility, and could not get
it working.
I suspect it hasnt been used for years (grin)
Has anyone got any JCL which worked, and information about the keys. For
:
As part of looking into copying encrypted data sets from one system to
another, I tried using the VSAM REPRO ENCIPHER facility, and could not get
it working.
I suspect it hasnt been used for years (grin)
Has anyone got any JCL which worked, and information about the keys. For
example do the keys
As part of looking into copying encrypted data sets from one system to
another, I tried using the VSAM REPRO ENCIPHER facility, and could not get
it working.
I suspect it hasnt been used for years (grin)
Has anyone got any JCL which worked, and information about the keys. For
example do the keys
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Just catching up. You may be referring to “XPROC” which is on file 772 of the
CBT tape, which I’ve used in private rexx execs.
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Not that I found. But I take it as a given they maintain an un-squished
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>Did IBM also provide a libray of unsquished REXX code?
>
On CM
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>Did IBM also provide a libray of unsquished REXX code?
>
On CMS, they tend to provide two: source and compiled:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.rexa100/h198160575.htm
Would a
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Years ago while disabling some built-in automation in SA for z/OS I found that
the REXX code SA actually ran live was almost all "squished." I didn't dig
into it, but I assumed (I still believe safely) that it was to reduce
interprete
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> Performance reasons. Without the quotes REXX first interprets MVS as a
> variable nam
Ferguson
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They are not necessary, but you can use a variable after the ADDRESS. I have
written a few REXX programs where I used:
ADDRESS CMD
Where I set CMD = “environ
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Subject: Re: Has anyone integrated Rexx with IKJPARS?
As for notable performance; we had a low memory, dual CP, water cooled, heavily
overcommitted processor. My first major program covered IBM CSP v3
On 23 Nov 2020 20:21:55 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
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000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Paul
Gilmartin) wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 21:56:22 -0600, Al Ferguson wrote:
>
>>They are not necessary, but you can
flip
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 14:05, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:57:55 +1000, Peter Vels wrote:
>
> >x all 'foo bar'
> >del all x
> >
> Of course. Thanks.
>
> The drawback is that you're flying blind; you don't see the lines
>
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 21:56:22 -0600, Al Ferguson wrote:
>They are not necessary, but you can use a variable after the ADDRESS. I have
>written a few REXX programs where I used:
> ADDRESS CMD
>
>Where I set CMD = “environ actual-command”.
>
I'm incredulous. Are you sure you didn't:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, at 03:19, Jackson, Rob wrote:
> Years ago while disabling some built-in automation in SA for z/OS I
> found that the REXX code SA actually ran live was almost all
> "squished." I didn't dig into it, but I assumed (I still believe
> safely) that it was to reduce interpreter
As for notable performance; we had a low memory, dual CP, water cooled, heavily
overcommitted processor. My first major program covered IBM CSP v3.2 to v3.3,
and converted DB2 View names w/shortened column names (7 characters or less, as
v3.2 supported up to 8 character variables). This ran for
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 02:07:20 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>I don't know why he quoted it, but quoting the environment name is certainly
>valid. It's probably a matter of local style.
>
IIRC, in CMS quoted environment names and external function names
are taken as-is. In TSO they are forced
They are not necessary, but you can use a variable after the ADDRESS. I have
written a few REXX programs where I used:
ADDRESS CMD
Where I set CMD = “environ actual-command”.
Any non-quoted word will:
1. Be folded up to all caps, if not already
2. Determine
e nop;End;Exit lrc
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Jeremy Nicoll
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 9:50 PM
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Subject: Re: Has anyone integrated Rexx with IKJPARS?
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, at 02:20, Al Ferguson wrote:
> Performance reasons. Without the quotes REXX first interprets MVS as a
> variable name
Are you sure?
I thought that environment (after address) was one of the few places in
REXX where quotes were unnecessary because what's typed there is
Performance reasons. Without the quotes REXX first interprets MVS as a variable
name, which (probable) has not been set, so takes on the value of the variable
name in caps. By putting it in caps, and enclosing it in quotes, I save REXX a
few steps and it goes directly to the MVS ADDRESS
: Monday, November 23, 2020 8:49 PM
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Subject: Re: Has anyone integrated Rexx with IKJPARS?
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, at 00:34, Al Ferguson wrote:
> ADDRESS “MVS” “EXECIO ”
Why do you have quotes around 'MVS'?
--
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020, at 01:25, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> I suspect it's a cultural influence. TSO designers expected programmers
> to be so repulsed by the necessarily unbalanced "(" in:
> "EXECIO 1 DISKW" "(STRING"
> ... that they required an assignment and a stem, or a push and pull.
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