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>> Charles
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[snip] to get a formatted dump with the IFASMFDP program which is in RECFM=VBS.
[snip] change this dataset in a RECFM=VB Format i.e. with the IDCAMS REPRO
command. This dataset now is readable with REXX
Thank you very much Mark. I will see how I can integrate it, at least
partly, into the book :-)
2014-02-04 Mark Zelden :
> I have an SMF 30 REXX example code (JOB accounting report) that I can
> contribute,
> but I don't have time do all the other informational doc I see with the
> other
> sampl
I have an SMF 30 REXX example code (JOB accounting report) that I can
contribute,
but I don't have time do all the other informational doc I see with the other
samples. Since virtually all my clients have had SAS, this is the only one I've
ever written in REXX (and it was a good exercise back in
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Horatio,
Thank you, any help is welcome :-)
No, there is no need to start the REXX in a TSO/ISPF environment. The
trick is just to get a formatted dump with
Horatio,
Thank you, any help is welcome :-)
No, there is no need to start the REXX in a TSO/ISPF environment. The trick is
just to get a formatted dump with the IFASMFDP program which is in RECFM=VBS.
Because in z/OS 1.13 VBS datasets are not readable directly with REXX you have
change this da
Hi Wolfgang,
I quickly read your book at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/SMF_Records
Great idea, I'll try to help.
Is there any need to start your REXX via ISPF?
Thanks,
Horacio
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For correct addressing just read the Header/Self-defining Section which
contains the triplet fields (offset/length/number) and use the right
offsets. You should also read the articles by George Ng in IBM Systems
Magazine (the links are in the book). His example deals with SMF30.
Greetings Wolfgang
Wolfgang Schuech wrote:
>Last week I started a little bookproject at wikibooks:
>http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/SMF_Records
Thanks. Looking promising!
>The book is inspired by a series of articles in IBM Systems Magazine in spring
>2013 where George Ng describes how REXX can be used to read the
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> Last week I started a little bookproject at wikibooks:
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> The book is inspired by a ser
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Last week I started a little bookproject at wikibooks:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki
Last week I started a little bookproject at wikibooks:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/SMF_Records
The book is inspired by a series of articles in IBM Systems Magazine in spring
2013 where George Ng describes how REXX can be used to read the SMF record
fields. At the moment the book give two exampl
t; Hey, there's a product for you: a DSECT to XML schema converter.
>
> Charles
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On 4/01/2014 7:15 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
One possibility: an XML document with a grammar that included elements for
each data type used by SMF records, including dates, timestamps, triplet
defined structures, etc. You could then have utilities or XSL style
sheets that generated language specific
At 13:08 -0600 on 01/03/2014, Mark Zelden wrote about Re: SMF (was:
REXX tutorial):
As long there is internal communication within IBM and everyone
played by the same rules, the information could be kept consolidated
in a single manual or kept in sync with the component / subsystem
manuals
records formats
>>> are in the SMF manual. Some are in one product-specific manual or another,
>>> with no consistency from product to product. There is a cross-reference in
>>> the SMF manual, but it sometimes lags reality.
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>&g
reality.
Charles
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duct-specific manual or
>>>> another,
>>>> with no consistency from product to product. There is a cross-reference
>>>> in
>>>> the SMF manual, but it sometimes lags reality.
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
>>>
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On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:35:44 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
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Interesting thing about SMF...
For 20 years IBM
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Currently it's kind of the worst of both worlds. Some SMF records
formats
are in the SMF manual. Some are in one pro
Gil,
Could be. BUT it worked fine for 20+ years.
Maybe IBM should make it easier to consolidate the record types
(internally)?
Trying to hunt down the blasted records is daunting especially since
there is no standard place in each component.
Might be worth a SHARE requirement?
Ed
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> I think that it would be useful to consider proces
Hey, there's a product for you: a DSECT to XML schema converter.
Charles
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>> with no consistency from product to product. There is a cross-reference in
>> the SMF manual, but it sometimes lags reality.
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>> Charles
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> On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:35:44 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
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> >On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:10:15 -0600, Ed Gould wrote:
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> >>Interesting thing
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On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:35:44 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Fri, 3 Jan
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:35:44 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:10:15 -0600, Ed Gould wrote:
>>
>>Interesting thing about SMF...
>>For 20 years IBM documented SMF records in one consolidated place the
>>SMF manual.
>>In the last 5 or so years IBM did an about face and started to
>
Dang, that's what we have computers for! Seems like a 'Smart manual' would
be able to handle this
seamlessly.
In a message dated 1/3/2014 12:35:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
paulgboul...@aim.com writes:
As such, it would be onerous, untimely, perhaps even error-prone for
each utility th
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:10:15 -0600, Ed Gould wrote:
>
>Interesting thing about SMF...
>For 20 years IBM documented SMF records in one consolidated place the
>SMF manual.
>In the last 5 or so years IBM did an about face and started to
>scatter them around in unlikely places WHY??
>
On Jan 3, 2014, at 4:57 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
When the manual is well over 1K pages, reading each edition cover
to cover is a bit much.
Agreed.
That's when your skimming and drill-down skills become important.
Very true. There are a lots of posts
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>When the manual is well over 1K pages, reading each edition cover to cover is
>a bit much.
Agreed.
>That's when your skimming and drill-down skills become important.
Very true. There are a lots of posts on IBM-MAIN like this 'Where is SMF record
X documented?
Agreed, so are researching, playing and learning. At least to me ...
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> On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:54 PM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"
> wrote:
>
> In <28b0c42e-730c-4eb1-8d23-8022a3cdd...@yahoo.com>, on 01/02/2014
> at 11:54 AM, Scott Ford said:
>
>
In <28b0c42e-730c-4eb1-8d23-8022a3cdd...@yahoo.com>, on 01/02/2014
at 11:54 AM, Scott Ford said:
>Reading manuals.what's that ...seen a lot of wanting instant
>gratification instead of doing the research first and then asking
>questions
When the manual is well over 1K pages, reading each
Reading manuals.what's that ...seen a lot of wanting instant gratification
instead of doing the research first and then asking questions
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> On Jan 1, 2014, at 4:17 PM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"
> wrote:
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> In
> <8244105070189912.wa.elardus
In
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on 12/31/2013
at 11:11 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
said:
>Hmmm, I wonder, did someone actually read ProOps from first to last
>page and understanding everything with only one RTFM? ;-D
Yes, but I doubt that anybody has done s
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> Learned Rexx on VM when it first came out like Elardus. Looked o
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Happy holidays Ted, rexx was easy for me personally. It had and still has a lot
of good features for scripting and prototyping. I use it a long with RACF calls
to parse
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Learned Rexx on VM when it first came out like Elardus. Looked over the manual
initially and then wrote simple rexx execs
Learned Rexx on VM when it first came out like Elardus. Looked over the manual
initially and then wrote simple rexx execs and then played/researched to
improve my techniques like any other language
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'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
> On Dec
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
>You actually tried RTFM? 3 times? ;-D
> don't need no stinking manuals, I just try my luck. If all else fails, I then
> RTFM... ;-D
It's actually quite an amazing book: as you go through each pass, the stuff
from the previous pass is right there if you need it. I've a
David Boyes wrote:
>The CMS REXX Users Guide was designed to be read 3 times -- first time for
>newbies, 2nd for more advanced topics, 3rd time as a reference.
You actually tried RTFM? 3 times? ;-D
I don't need no stinking manuals, I just try my luck. If all else fails, I then
RTFM... ;-D
Hmmm
The CMS REXX Users Guide was designed to be read 3 times -- first time for
newbies, 2nd for more advanced topics, 3rd time as a reference. I used it to
teach my mom REXX. 8-)
PDF download from www.vm.ibm.com/library 8-)
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