Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: >Thank you - I've come to the conclusion that we should be in a single sysplex >so we have grs protecting every device. Ok. Abadon grey hairs! ;-) Just have your Prod ready and then add one LPAR at a stage from the test Plex. You could perhaps prepare your HSM, S

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-05 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: 04 April, 2016 19:46 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd Thank you - I've come to the conclusion that we should be in a single sysplex so we have grs protecting every device. Now the di

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Smith
I'm working on setting up a CTC-only Basic Sysplex (not Parallel, no-CF's). From what I read, basic plexes don't scale well, as ENQs have to go around to each system, which may be why your IBM guy advised against it. Ken This is from z/OS 1.13 DFSMS Using data Sets SC26-7410-11 https://www.ibm.c

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-04 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Thank you - I've come to the conclusion that we should be in a single sysplex so we have grs protecting every device. Now the discussion begins :-) -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Inf

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Gibney, David Allen
2016 1:48 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with > shared dasd > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Gibney, David Allen > wrote: > > > I only shared a minimum set of volumes. Vary offline commands in >

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Gibney, David Allen wrote: > I only shared a minimum set of volumes. Vary offline commands in COMMNDxx. > Very few, if any PDS/E on these volumes and all are read-only after > creation. > > This COBOL-5 requirement for a PDS/E load library will complicate my > tran

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Gibney, David Allen
me Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Martin Packer > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 9:40 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with > shared dasd > > Arguably there is no such thing as a &

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/1/2016 7:00 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: An unintentional repeat. And yes the PDSE's along with all datasets are shared between both sysplexes as all dasd is shared. Not ideal but it is what it is so I was looking for a solution. PDSE sharing depends on sysplex services, and not ju

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
; Engineering -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 9:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd W dniu 2016-04-01

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-04-01 o 16:09, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) pisze: I was hoping there was a way for GRS to span multiple sysplexes - apparently it can't - but that is a question worth asking. It is possible to have GRS complex that span sysplexes, but: 1. It is VERY unrecommended for some importnat reas

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-04-01 o 16:00, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) pisze: An unintentional repeat. And yes the PDSE's along with all datasets are shared between both sysplexes as all dasd is shared. Not ideal but it is what it is so I was looking for a solution. The ONLY solution is STOP SHARING all datasets

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd Arguably there is no such thing as a "read only data set". It must've got written to (at least) once (or be empty). Maybe CURRENTLY it's not being written to. But when it was the damage could&

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Martin Packer
inPacker From: Elardus Engelbrecht To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 01/04/2016 15:24 Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: >An unintentional repeat.

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote: >An unintentional repeat. It is all right. It seemed you got caught in this bad situation. >The original PDSE issue was a PDSE was being read (no updates) on both >sysplexes and it became corrupted. I was asked about PDSE protection for a >new project and that p

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
16 16:01 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd An unintentional repeat. And yes the PDSE's along with all datasets are shared between both sysplexes as all dasd is shared. Not ideal but it is what it is so I was l

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
--- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 9:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd So then the problem is solved, you do s

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice needed - GRS across 2 sysplexes with shared dasd

2016-04-01 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
An unintentional repeat. And yes the PDSE's along with all datasets are shared between both sysplexes as all dasd is shared. Not ideal but it is what it is so I was looking for a solution. -- Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) M