CVOL had the restriction that if you have a DSN=HLQ.Q2 you can't
create DSN=HLQ.Q2.Q3.
On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 5:59 AM Leonard D Woren wrote:
>
> BRODCAST with its 1 byte keys is probably the only data set using
> non-unique hardware keys.
>
> IIRC, the key values have the following meanings:
>
BRODCAST with its 1 byte keys is probably the only data set using
non-unique hardware keys.
IIRC, the key values have the following meanings:
* (I think) header with pointers to the first system notice and the
first user directory blocks
* free (available) record
* system notice - operator
of Mainframe Passwords
Reg Harbeck (a name many of you should recognize) and I are putting
together
a presentation on the above subject. We would appreciate any material
that
anyone thought could be included. (I guess I should get all lawyerly
here
and say if you send it to us you grant us permission
of
Steve Smith [sasd...@gmail.com]
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VSAM does not use hardware keys. What I know of that does are PDS
directories (KL=8) (not PDSE), VTOCs (KL=44), SYS1.BRODCAST (KL=1), and
just heard
May 2022 20:19
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Subject: Re: The Story of Mainframe Passwords
Wow, clear text. But all that doesn't matter if a fellow sysprog modifies my
logon clist to put up messages something like this:
ACF01234 ID HAS BEEN OFFLINE FOR TOO LONG PLEASE LOGON AGAIN
ACF01235 ACF2
On Thu, May 12, 2022, 14:04 Tom Brennan wrote:
> Yes... Now that you mention it, I do remember the key in PDS
> directories, but I never worked with those others directly. Do VSAM
> datasets use disk keys?
>
No. VSAM is really designed with FBA (Fixed Block Architecture) devices in
mind. Too
Although it was in clear text, it was in a read-protected control block.
Lennie
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Wow, clear text. But all
Cool!
Any good password stories?
Charles
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VSAM does
Thanks Steve. And for now on I'll search for BDAM only in Chrome
incognito mode.
On 5/12/2022 12:14 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
VSAM does not use hardware keys. What I know of that does are PDS
directories (KL=8) (not PDSE), VTOCs (KL=44), SYS1.BRODCAST (KL=1), and
just heard about PASSWORD.
ION, RICHARD W.
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Non-relative track address BDAM used it to, right?
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Non-relative track address BDAM used it to, right?
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Yes, ISAM positively did use hardware keys. BTDTGTTS, and I do mean scars.
Peter
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VSAM does
inframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
> > Tom Brennan [t...@tombrennansoftware.com]
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> >
> > I remember that datase
Discussion List On Behalf Of
Charles Mills
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Subject: The Story of Mainframe Passwords
Reg Harbeck (a name many of you should recognize) and I are putting together
a presentation on the above subject. We would appreciate any material that
anyone thought
VSAM does not use hardware keys. What I know of that does are PDS
directories (KL=8) (not PDSE), VTOCs (KL=44), SYS1.BRODCAST (KL=1), and
just heard about PASSWORD. They are (of course) available for user
application with BDAM (Google suggests I meant "BDSM"... almost appropriate
;-). I don't
of Mainframe Passwords
I remember that dataset. When I first started, one of my jobs was to
run a program someone had written that read every record looking for a
dataset match, and then spit out the password. That was for folks who
forgot their dataset password of course. The program took maybe 10
y nothing of PDS
> directories.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> > >
> > > ____
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.ED
ur J.) Metz
> > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> >
> >
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> > of Tom Brennan [t...@tombrennansoftware.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 7:03 PM
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
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Maybe include how
Of
Charles Mills
Sent: 11 May 2022 23:02
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: The Story of Mainframe Passwords
Reg Harbeck (a name many of you should recognize) and I are putting together
a presentation on the above subject. We would appreciate any material that
anyone thought could be included. (I
M Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf
> of Tom Brennan [t...@tombrennansoftware.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 7:03 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: The Story of Mainframe Passwords
>
> I remember that dataset. When I first started,
]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 7:03 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: The Story of Mainframe Passwords
I remember that dataset. When I first started, one of my jobs was to
run a program someone had written that read every record looking for a
dataset match, and then spit out the password
I remember that dataset. When I first started, one of my jobs was to
run a program someone had written that read every record looking for a
dataset match, and then spit out the password. That was for folks who
forgot their dataset password of course. The program took maybe 10
minutes to
les Mills
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 3:02 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: The Story of Mainframe Passwords
>
> Reg Harbeck (a name many of you should recognize) and I are putting
> together
> a presentation on the above subject. We would appreciate any materi
Reg Harbeck (a name many of you should recognize) and I are putting together
a presentation on the above subject. We would appreciate any material that
anyone thought could be included. (I guess I should get all lawyerly here
and say if you send it to us you grant us permission to use it.)
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