Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
A large zFS data set was allocated w/o a dataclass. Now the data set is not extended format, so it cannot grow larger than 4GiB. I was looking into DFDSS COPYing or DUMP/RESTORE into a new extended format zFS data set. I tried various ways, but it seems DFDSS is not willing to copy or restore fr

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread John McKown
I can't answer your question. Especially since I don't know what "various ways" that you tried. But I did have a possible thought you might want to try. I assume the zFS container is not "mounted" at some UNIX mount point. So, how about doing trying this: 1) Rename zFS data set (CLUSTER & DATA) to

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-06-17 13:35, Peter Hunkeler pisze: A large zFS data set was allocated w/o a dataclass. Now the data set is not extended format, so it cannot grow larger than 4GiB. I was looking into DFDSS COPYing or DUMP/RESTORE into a new extended format zFS data set. I tried various ways, but it

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 06/17/14 07:35, Peter Hunkeler wrote: A large zFS data set was allocated w/o a dataclass. Now the data set is not extended format, so it cannot grow larger than 4GiB. I was looking into DFDSS COPYing or DUMP/RESTORE into a new extended format zFS data set. I tried various ways, but it seems

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread John McKown
Thanks. I understand. DFDSS is certainly a more efficient data copier than IDCAMS REPRO! On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: > >I can't answer your question. Especially since I don't know what "various > ways" that you tried. > > > My intent really only was to make sure I'm n

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread Matthew Stitt
I just tried IDCAMS REPRO for exactly the same purpose. The job shows it worked, but a directory list of the new ZFS showed nothing in it. So I then used the following PAX command: /usr/sbin/mount -t ZFS -f PLEX.OLD.AGGR002.LDS0002 /service2 /usr/sbin/mount -t ZFS -f PLEX.NEW.AGGR002.LDS0002 /

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:51:42 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: >>I can't answer your question. Especially since I don't know what "various >ways" that you tried. > >My intent really only was to make sure I'm not missing a DFDSS option that >would do this. >I didn't find anything the like in the manua

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-06-17 21:18, Tom Marchant pisze: On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 14:51:42 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: I can't answer your question. Especially since I don't know what "various ways" that you tried. My intent really only was to make sure I'm not missing a DFDSS option that would do this. I d

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread John McKown
I agree with your curiosity. I have never tried to "clone" a zFS using REPRO, but have copied other VSAM LINEAR data sets (SMS ACDS, SCDS) with no problems. But I didn't change them from non-EF to EF at the same time. Perhaps an EF LINEAR data sets is not identical to a non-EF LINEAR data set in so

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread Skip Robinson
Date: 06/17/2014 01:28 PM Subject: Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List I agree with your curiosity. I have never tried to "clone" a zFS using REPRO, but have copied other VSAM LINEAR data sets (

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 17, 2014, at 2:34 PM, R.S. wrote: ---SNIP-- Regarding original problem- I see two interesting issues: 1. What's magic inside zFS which makes the CI-level copy unusable? Extended format adds some suffix to physical blocks, but Control Interva

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:49:06 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: >. The only humongous (EF) >ZFS I've created was for ServerPac work space, and I started with an empty >volume. My largest zFS is a single SMPNTS data set in one of my sysplexes shared by all the tech teams. It is 4 3390-9 volumes. I

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-06-17 22:49, Skip Robinson pisze: We routinely use DSS dump/restore to clone/migrate ZFS around the enterprise, but always to similar architecture. The only humongous (EF) ZFS I've created was for ServerPac work space, and I started with an empty volume. I agree with what's been said

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-18 Thread Ron Hawkins
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:00 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset > to extended format? >

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-18 Thread Ed Gould
June 17, 2014 6:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format? Thanks. I understand. DFDSS is certainly a more efficient data copier than IDCAMS REPRO! On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: I

Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-20 Thread Peter Hunkeler
My apologies for not responding earlier, but I wanted to try the AMS REPRO first. Unfortunately, I didn't have time for this until now. First, regarding. more detail in my original post. I can understand, and usually post all information I think might help. This time, I probably should have jus

AW: Re: Using DFDSS to copy non-extended format dataset to extended format?

2014-06-17 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>I can't answer your question. Especially since I don't know what "various ways" that you tried. My intent really only was to make sure I'm not missing a DFDSS option that would do this. I didn't find anything the like in the manual. That's why I didn't post details. >So, how about doing tryi