Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Yes, there have been and are far too many incompetent auditor, but there are
>good auditors and a good auditor is your friend.
Indeed. I still wish I have a good auditor like the one who introduced me to
Beta88, Vanguard and Consul (now zSecure) many years ago. With his h
agreed
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Yes, there have been and are far too many incompetent auditor, but there are
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Allan Staller wrote:
>I have not seen a competent auditor for the mainframe in about 30 years.
You're late. ;-)
Some auditor-bashing text in IBM-MAIN over the years:
For all I know he was the only one and he just retired.
Charles
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I didn't say there weren't any, I just haven't seen them.
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Then you sho
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I have not seen a competent auditor for the mainframe in about 30 years.
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Allan Staller wrote:
>I have not seen a competent auditor for the mainframe in about 30 years.
You're late. ;-)
Some auditor-bashing text in IBM-MAIN over the years:
My own pondering about auditors:
"In a galaxy far far away on a very lonely planet full of hungry aliens some
centuries ago,
I have not seen a competent auditor for the mainframe in about 30 years.
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Aside from
it's a really bad
idea.
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I actually have run a few CICS programs in supervisor state using
18, 2018 9:55 AM
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The SVC code just sets the JSCBAUTH bit on for a few nanoseconds while the
user code runs and then sets if off in response to another SVC call to do so.
I do not run it any more but it really came in
d it's not
terribly difficult to reverse engineer them.
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Hi Binyamin,
Thanks for your sugge
Hi Binyamin,
Thanks for your suggestion, I will consider doing that via batch/started
task.
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The SDSF SVC had some 'integrity checks' that would complicate any spoofing
effort, but it was always a bad idea. Good riddance. Woe be to any similar
attempt at
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Hi Binyamin,
Many thanks to your quick replay.
I'm trying to capture/send DB2 log record
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On 10/18/2018 10:50 AM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:
> the logic to retrieve log records via IFI is highly specialized and requires
> z/OS waits, something not to be done in CICS programming.
That 'wait' restric
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On 10/18/2018 10:50 AM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:
> the logic to retrieve log records via IFI is highly specialized and requires
> z/OS waits, something not to be done in CICS programming.
That 'wait'
On 10/18/2018 10:50 AM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:
the logic to retrieve log records via IFI is highly specialized and requires
z/OS waits, something not to be done in CICS programming.
That 'wait' restriction was lifted *years* ago with the advent of the
OPENAPI and L8 TCBs . Without that major a
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Hi Binyamin,
Many thanks to your quick replay
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:08:33 +, Barkow, Eileen
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>In order to call the SVC a programmer would have to know
f Tom Marchant
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>In order to call the SVC a programmer would have to know about it first as
>well as have a need for it;
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>In order to call the SVC a programmer would have to know about it first
>as well as have a need for it; neither of which applied to any CICS
>application prog
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:08:33 +, Barkow, Eileen
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>In order to call the SVC a programmer would have to know about it first as
>well as have a need for it;
>neither of which applied to any CICS application programmers.
>
Someone breaking into your systems would always have a need for so
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:08:33 +, Barkow, Eileen wrote:
>In order to call the SVC a programmer would have to know about it first as
>well as have a need for it;
>neither of which applied to any CICS application programmers.
It isn't particularly difficult to take a dump, and search the SVC Tab
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That SVC is a *huge* system integrity risk .
I would advise that you re-think that design ASAP.
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I'm glad to hear you don't run it. It's n
d implore you to NOT give this to anyone if they ask for it.
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You need to be supervisor state to do this. Using CICS just
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Eileen, that code sounds suspiciously like a huge security vulnerability? Am
I missing something
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You need to be supervisor state to do this. Using CICS just because it is
easier is a wrong decision.
But if you are sold on using CICS, you would need to write a SVC routine to
actually do the work and have your transaction supply a CICS
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You need to be supervisor state to do this. Using CICS just because it is
You need to be supervisor state to do this. Using CICS just because it is
easier is a wrong decision.
But if you are sold on using CICS, you would need to write a SVC routine to
actually do the work and have your transaction supply a CICS area as a buffer
and the SVC routine will do the IFI work a
, all concepts of "easy" coding vanish and you are
one instruction away from an unscheduled IPL.
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Hi Binyamin,
Many thanks to your quick replay.
I'm trying to capture/send DB2 log record using IFI call. The storage
requirement is ECSA key 7 storage: "The return area for monitor programs that
issue IFCID 0306 requests must reside either in ECSA key 7 storage or in the
64-bit commo
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 04:24:35 -0500 Wang Rong wrote:
:>Hi all,
:>
:> Hello everyone, I'm a new commer.
:> I try to get ECSA key 7 storage under CICS, I can to that in batch
program by using STORAGE OBTAIN/FREE macro; but I read some articles say the
GETMAIN/FREEMAIN
Hi all,
Hello everyone, I'm a new commer.
I try to get ECSA key 7 storage under CICS, I can to that in batch
program by using STORAGE OBTAIN/FREE macro; but I read some articles say the
GETMAIN/FREEMAIN macro should not be used under CICS, I guess this rule applys
to st
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