I missed that part, I thought it was just a complaint about the slowness of
z/OSMF, I didn't realize it was not on a mainframe. I guess it would have been
a better question for one of the Hercules boards.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm running the system in a PC with a Ryzen 5
5600x, so, seems I'm pretty limited in hardware capacity. Seems i will have
to upgrade to a better CPU model.
Regarding the license issue, I am running z
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Agreed. I was observing this as part of a z/OS v3.1 update, and a hour after
the IPL, while everything else was checking out fine, I noticed z/OSMF was
still hogging all the CPU it could get. My experienced pee
Agreed. I was observing this as part of a z/OS v3.1 update, and a hour after
the IPL, while everything else was checking out fine, I noticed z/OSMF was
still hogging all the CPU it could get. My experienced peers said that was
common, and this shop needed a bigger box and a zIIP.
Sent from [Pro
I actually reported this problem to IBM when one of my clients had a z/13s, and
was told that their testing was performed on a 400Mip box (with a zIIP engine,
and also without one), their response time was acceptable, but my clients took
about 20 minutes to initialize and about 45 minutes to get
rying this, let you incur the wrath of Big Blue.
>
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> David
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> On 10/27/2024 21:26, Marco Cruz wrote:
> > Hello comunity,
> >
> > I'm testing zOS 2.5 in an Hercules emulator and I realized that zOSMF is
> taking too long to complete ini
Hi Marco,
In case you are unaware, IBM does not license z/OS to run on Hercules.
I would not publicize trying this, let you incur the wrath of Big Blue.
Regards,
David
On 10/27/2024 21:26, Marco Cruz wrote:
Hello comunity,
I'm testing zOS 2.5 in an Hercules emulator and I realized that
Hello comunity,
I'm testing zOS 2.5 in an Hercules emulator and I realized that zOSMF is taking
too long to complete initialization. The log in the following link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qQXp6CUfiXDKgHIwTYDBR1s-K0kCxgde/view?usp=drive_link
I noticed that java response ti
Hello comunity,
I'm testing zOS 2.5 in an Hercules emulator and I realized that zOSMF is taking
too long to complete initialization. I attach the log of zOSMF started task.
I noticed that java response time is relatively high, for example, simple
commands like "java -version"
Hello comunity,
I'm testing zOS 2.5 in an Hercules emulator and I realized that zOSMF is taking
too long to complete initialization. I attach the log of zOSMF started task.
I noticed that java response time is relatively high, for example, simple
commands like "java -version"
Peter,
There is some detection (not complete, but some) that is done in the first z/OS
Upgrade Workflow step called "Discover z/OS features in use". For each step
that was associated with a PTF that had actions associated with them that
you've already seen (when you installed the PTF and did an
Hello
Good morning
Is it true that zosmf workflow discovery can automatically detect the LPAR
and advise the accurate upgrade step specific to my environment?
Peter
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Brian,
Our Production LPAR is not same as Sandbox. i Believe zosmf workflow
detects based on the environment and gives us the workflow right ? Please
correct me if i am wrong.
On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:16 AM Brian Westerman <
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> I
It is easy, but there really isn't any way to NOT do the RACF parts. But if
you are not going to 'use" zosmf in production then there is no reason to
install it there either. You really only need on instance per site.
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>
> I am going to perform zosmf installations for the first time.
>
> Going through the zosmf installations I can see there are some racf classes
> are getting activated. Our production LPAR are not same as test lpar.
>
> So to get a prope
Hello
Good evening
I am going to perform zosmf installations for the first time.
Going through the zosmf installations I can see there are some racf classes
are getting activated. Our production LPAR are not same as test lpar.
So to get a proper zosmf workflow for production lpar upgrade i was
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to products that you ha
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The problem with reporting these types of issues is that they
The problem with reporting these types of issues is that they appear to be
completely ignored. In my case, I have been told several times that since i
have a workaround, there is no reason to open an issue. So now I just don't
even bother to report them. I just make a note for the next time.
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> In job IZUD04RN, they try to alter the name which is failing for me because
> the end name is already cataloged.
If a data set with that name is already cataloged, then z/OSMF should have
displayed an error and not generated that deployment JCL. Off hand I don't
know why your situation cause
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z/OSMF is not in it's infancy, it's been around for several years now, it's new
to force z/OS installs with it. I have now installed my 22nd z/OS install with
z/OSMF, (hundreds with Serverpak) and I can tell you that It has gone
increasingly downhill over especially the past year or so. The ab
Ok, so I will speak out to my positive experiences….
I’m personally not in favor of a GUI for the sake of a GUI without bringing
advantages to the table. But I have become a ZOSMF fan more recently.
Serverpac – On the ISPF panels, old process, I could have the entire process
laid down, and
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> So this is my first real time using zOSMF for a software installation. So I
>
So this is my first real time using zOSMF for a software installation. So I
have a few complaints.
First No SSA is being used, IBM decided to tack on a .# to every dataset, HATE
this and I modified it.
I have SMS rules already defined for SYS1SSA, so I changed my configuration
layout to my
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Hello list,
Just IPLed z/
doing CHMOD a lot.
I eventually got it working. The next couple of installs still had issues but
not as many, but as they fixed issues with ZOSMF, they created more issues with
the other parts of the install.
It never seems to get any better, it's almost like they are moving the problems
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Hello list, Just IPLed z/OS 3. 1 on our sandbox and tried to start zOSMF. The
angel process started but the server process fails
Hello list,
Just IPLed z/OS 3.1 on our sandbox and tried to start zOSMF. The angel process
started but the server process fails. I compared file permissions in the
/global/zosmf directories between my 2.4 system and 3.1 system and they're the
same. The server is failing in the IZUSVR1
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Subject: Re: zOSMF install - SDSF ISFPRMxx
Hello Rob
Thank yo
On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 08:44:01 +, Rob Scott wrote:
>Mark
>
>The original APAR (PH49811) that introduced the ISFNTCNV tool and the
>ISFRACEX sample RACF starter set was rolled back to z/OS 2.4.
>
Hi Rob,
Thanks. I'll have a look and pass on the information to people who have been
coming
to
work on z/OS 2.5+” presentation) to all customers attempting the migration.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:33:16 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
>My only real complaint about all of this is that it caught me by surprise.
>The requirement
>was announced at the last possible time it could - the last quarterly
>announcement for z/OS 2.4
>enhancements (I think) as a statement of dire
is doing under the
>covers for the various panels and actions, the migration makes much more sense.
>
>I hope the above is helpful
>
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>I know I need zOSMF to install 3.1. My question is, in essence, can (or
>should) I order and install a stand-alone zOSMF 3.1 and use that for my z/OS
>3.1 install or am I better off (or is this the only option) installing zOSMF
>2.4 before even heading down the 3.1 path
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Hi Kurt,
Thank you. That is exactly the answer I needed. We installed 2.4 with a
ServerPac and as I am just starting down the implementation path of zOSMF, my
manager asked me to find out if we should try to get the 3.1 zOSMF stand-alone
and install that first. Your response confirmed that
> I know I need zOSMF to install 3.1. My question is, in essence, can (or
> should) I order and install a stand-alone zOSMF 3.1 and use that for my z/OS
> 3.1 install or am I better off (or is this the only option) installing zOSMF
> 2.4 before even heading down the 3.1 path?
Did
Hi Richard,
I know I need zOSMF to install 3.1. My question is, in essence, can (or
should) I order and install a stand-alone zOSMF 3.1 and use that for my z/OS
3.1 install or am I better off (or is this the only option) installing zOSMF
2.4 before even heading down the 3.1 path?
Thanks
You need zOSMF to install 3.1.
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Hi all,
Just looking for opinions on this.
Scenario is we&#x
Hi all,
Just looking for opinions on this.
Scenario is we're running z/OS 2.4. We don't have zOSMF installed. Sometime
next year we're going to migrate to 3.1. Would we be better off
installing/implementing zOSMF 2.4 today in preparation for installing 3.1 or
should we in
helpful
Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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Well I was able to find a utility developed by rocket software ISFACR and
it helped
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Well I was able to find a utility developed by rocket software ISFACR and
it helped me to generate some commands which were required as part of my
m
is showing its age a bit. We have some more
>> recent (and much simpler) tools and processes now.
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Peter,
Can I strongly suggest you instigate a project to activate OPERCMDS (and
JESSPOOL if not already active).
ISFPRMx just controls actions within SDSF and does not preclude any
semi-capable programmer from writing code to
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Good morning
I have planned to install zOSMF in our test LPAR. Our SDSF uses its own
security features using ISFPRMXX and I can see zOSMF has its own IZUSEC
jobs where it activates OPERCMDS class. We never activated OPERCMDS
Hello All
Good morning
I have planned to install zOSMF in our test LPAR. Our SDSF uses its own
security features using ISFPRMXX and I can see zOSMF has its own IZUSEC
jobs where it activates OPERCMDS class. We never activated OPERCMDS instead
we manage using ISFPRMXX PARMLIB member.
Is there
Hi David,
Frank Kyne, in one of his monthly newsletters, was noticing the same thing: it
is hard to have a full "view" of where all the WF service definition files are
"sourced", for both ones you've used and ones you are looking for. Happily,
though, WF does remember individually where the sou
Thanks for that Kurt!
Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
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> There is something somew
> There is something somewhat rudimentary in the create workflow screen with
> the pulldown, but I dont know if thats zOSMF doing that, or the browser doing
> that. But then that would likely be just for me?
z/OSMF, not your browser, manages the pulldown of previous workflow definiti
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All,
I have been thinking about this for awhile,, but cant seem to find the answer.
So asking my fellow listers if I am missing something. Workflows are
definition files that have been
used or might be used again? I dont see that? Am I missing something?
There is something somewhat rudimentary in the create workflow screen with the
pulldown, but I dont know if thats zOSMF doing that, or the browser doing that.
But then that would likely be just
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Hi Phil,
If you are not interested in looking at videos to see the flow in action, the
complete documentation (with Helps you see on the display) are on IBM
Documentation.
The "Model" function can be found here:
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=wizard-model-page
-Marna WALLE
z/O
This is why I like the way Linux handles things. I can have two
different Linux installs, as along as I have two different
partitions or disks on which to put those installs. And then the
user data is off in /home which can be yet another single or
group of partitions on one or more disks.
By
I believe what you stated below is the major problem. z/OS systems have years
of process, embedded meta information in PROCs, file names, HLQs, etc. Its not
a “fresh disk install” its about existing processes and procedures, time to
migrate, the risk involved in making the alignment happen and
ut they do seem to go
out of their way to hide things.
Rex
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How about the last time that the menu
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Funny! Yes, that sounds like the same conversation I had with XXX
company and the product, not necessarily that number of X's but
could be :)
You're right
FWIW (perhaps nothing), IBM solved the upgrade problem ~30 years ago for VM by
separating the operating system nucleus (kernel) from the filesystem. That is,
you can have multiple copies of the VM nucleus on various CMS (the end-user
environment) minidisks, which CP (the hypervisor) knows how to
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I can't remember the last time a Windows/Linux install failed. I do
remember the last time an ISV z/OS install failed, and when I called for
help the support person said, "Don't worry about it, *everybody* calls
when installing this particular pr
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I have to disagree.
First lets talk about the migration guide an
s documented. Here, let me walk you through my process." His worked, but
it was nothing like the document.
Rex
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Kids can install, because basically one FMID, and if it doesn’t work, good luck.
How many FMID components make up core z/OS? Maybe if IBM made it one FMID you
could install like android.
I can use ISRFIND or ISRDDN, to find many thing
metz3
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I can't remember the last time a Windows/Linux inst
was nothing like the document.
Rex
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I can't remember the last time a Windows/Linux install failed.
> > Is there anything easy we/IBM could do to move in the right direction?
>
> Examine the current system,
> create a script to set the equivalent values for z/OSMF?
Oh, so just like the Model function in z/OSMF Software Management?
When you install software, like z/OS, using z/OSMF, during the C
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I agree with that.
On 5/30/2023 10:27 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I can’t speak for IBM but I believe that z/OSMF is part of the strategy to help
guide folks onto a consistent approach. The challenge is that policies,
procedures and configuration options have existed for years across thousands
I can’t speak for IBM but I believe that z/OSMF is part of the strategy to help
guide folks onto a consistent approach. The challenge is that policies,
procedures and configuration options have existed for years across thousands of
customers. The cloud refers to servers as cattle because they
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So how come my kids can install apps and updates to their Windows and Mac
machines, and I can work
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People feel that z/OSMF is not meeting their needs. Looking at the positive
sideIf we wanted to get future z/OS newbies up to speed very quickly (1
month) What should IBM and us users be doing?
1. Ma
ay, May 30, 2023 10:20 AM
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So how come my kids can install apps and updates to their Windows and Mac
machines, and I can work with Linux with no formal training? For example, I
don't need to hunt down SYS3.MY2013.PARMLIB(PROG46),
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People feel that z/OSMF is not meeting their needs. Looking at the
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> People feel that z/OSMF is not meeting their needs. Looking at the
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On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 9:04 AM Colin Paice wrote:
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> People feel that z/OSMF is not meeting their needs. Looking at the positive
> sideIf we wanted to get future z/OS newbies up to speed very quickly (1
> month) What should IBM and us users be doing?
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>1. Making better use of existing
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Agreed!
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A typo; should be GUI.
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David Crayford
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2023 10:13 AM
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What’s CUI? A container platform?
> On 28 May 2023, at 9:57 pm, W Mainfr
What’s CUI? A container platform?
> On 28 May 2023, at 9:57 pm, W Mainframe
> <01304632a58d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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> Hi,Just some few words..:I hate zosmf and zowe... :)And yes... I have some
> good applications running on CUI... No plans to migrate.
Hi,Just some few words..:I hate zosmf and zowe... :)And yes... I have some good
applications running on CUI... No plans to migrate... :)Dan
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The real problem, as I see it, is that drag and drop interfaces move you
away from the need to know what you are doing. A long time ago, the first
MVS install that I did on my own, took me a few mo
Personally I think z/OSMF is a big step in the wrong direction for IBM,
especially since they made it a the only choice. Before them it was also
pretty much just a single choice, but you had a lot of flexibility that you no
longer have with the newer method. There appears to be no good reason
tatus of every module before and after the
change to be known.
If zOSMF ever becomes such a black box that that SysProgs lose the
clarity of what data sets must be carefully protected as critical to
system integrity, that would be badness.
Windows core system maintenance occurs mostly at the
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