Re: Time Change

2006-03-28 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Title: Message We IPL after 03:00. -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kreiter, ChuckSent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:55 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Time Change Being new to z/VM, I was wondering what

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
What other vendor software? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 4:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem Then this is strictly a DIAG 10 problem? If

Re: so-called timestamp value in DB2-VM tables

2006-03-28 Thread Aurora Dellanno
Actually, the timestamp I have is a 12 character value, not a 9-char one - I may be incredibly thick but how am I going to convert it using a 9-char converte r, please? Thanks. Aurora

Re: Time Change

2006-03-28 Thread Paul Nieman
snip individually. We have a wide variety of z/OS, Linux and CMS based apps and only a couple of ancient ones have an issue (PROP gets cranky). Springing /snip Why would PROP get cranky? PROP doesn't wake up on timed events, but on messages. If there is any problem with PROP, it would probably

2 minute USER report from MONWRITE file

2006-03-28 Thread Hans Rempel
I would like extract a USER report every two minutes I’m not familiar with the VM performance toolkit but from my reading I created the SETTINGS file below. I have a MONWRITE disk file that spans multiple days. I'm using the PERFKIT BATCH command. Is there a better way of getting the 2 minute

Re: Time Change

2006-03-28 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Title: Message I have a note from 1996 that reads: You should also recycle any service machines that aretime dependent that were logged on during the change,specifically the VM:Schedule service machine and anyRSCS machine running the event manager (RSCS 3.1.0).All Shared File System SVMs

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Everyone, I have been following this thread with great interest. We are currently on z/VM 4.3 We are (like most everyone else) 24/7 and can not afford any known problems/errors that could/may happen. Is this Z/VM 5.2.0 problem associated with a particular

Re: SMSG and CSE

2006-03-28 Thread Dave Jones
That's very interesting Alan. Reading the PVM doc gave me the impression that PVM used distributed IUCV as the method for actually sending the message data DJ Alan Altmark wrote: On Thursday, 03/23/2006 at 08:07 CST, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my understanding that all

Re: SMSG and CSE

2006-03-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/28/2006 at 10:25 CST, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's very interesting Alan. Reading the PVM doc gave me the impression that PVM used distributed IUCV as the method for actually sending the message data You can use IUCV with PVM and construct your IUCV messages

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/28/2006 at 11:29 EST, Edward M. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am leaning toward the 5.1 upgrade. With the 5.2 at second level. Now comes the MP3000 to z/xxx box as they have not told me which one yet. We are getting prices on everything. The hospital area is an

Re: mp3000

2006-03-28 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello David, Alan, and others, The overall problem is getting from z/4.3 on the MP3000 to At Z/800/890/900/990 with out any user interruption. Ok I have 20 minutes at midnight. I am thinking do z/VM 4.3 to z/VM 4.4 upgrade. Now I should be able to run on whatever box

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/28/2006 at 12:06 EST, Edward M. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I could upgrade to z/VM 4.4 on the MP3000, get over to the z/xxx box and then upgrade to z/VM 5.1. Right? Or z/VM 5.2. Right. A lot depends on exactly which box you get. z/VM 4.3 supports z800/z900. z/VM

ZVM under ZVM and data center consolidation

2006-03-28 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
We are consolidating two data centers. Both data centers run ZVM and VSE/ESA. I happen to be at the home data center with the hardware and the host zvm system. The data center being relocated is keeping its network infrastructure, its operator staff, a few tape drives, and its users where they

Re: ZVM under ZVM and data center consolidation

2006-03-28 Thread David Kreuter
So you will end up with 3rd level VSE under 2nd level zvm under 1st level zvm? And the 3rd level is considered production? Although there have been improvements in this area you may want to carefully look at the 3rd level production VSE performance. What zvm version? What type of box? You

Re: ZVM under ZVM and data center consolidation

2006-03-28 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Jim, The best answer I can give is, It depends. We have two test z/VM systems running under our 1st level z/VM which is running in an LPAR and the response on them is as good as on the 1st level system. However, these are lightly loaded and neither 1st nor 2nd level have paging constraints.

Re: mp3000

2006-03-28 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Maybe not on the right path. There may always be better paths. But it is one that has been travelled. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting (BTW, watch for the pot hole on your right, just after the big tree) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/28/2006 12:42 PM Hello Tom, Sound like the basic plan I have

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Hans Rempel
I used spxtape DUMP tape from a z/VM 3.1 system. During my testing I found out even files dumped from spxtape z/VM 5.2 caused the same problem. IBM ask me to test a fix which resolved the problem. An official fix should be out soon. Hans

Re: DDR in Pipelines question

2006-03-28 Thread John Hall
On 3/22/06, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I heard at the SHARE session on Safe Software's relatively cheapSafe DR product that they had to modify DDR to play nicely at all. If you don't want to pay the higher price for all the capabilities of:CA's VM:Backup(

SAPL Levels and z890

2006-03-28 Thread Judson West
We are going to be upgrading from a z800 to a z890. We are running z/VM 4.4 and I understand that this is the minimum level of VM supported on the z890. So we are good there. My question is more for the version of SAPL. I believe it is several releases behind our 4.4 system. Is there an issue with

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Austin, Alyce (CIV)
Because of the growing pains with 5.2, is support for z/VM 4.4 going to be extended beyond 9/06? Thanks, Alyce -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Vincent Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:00 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Jim Vincent
I can't/won't speak for IBM but I doubt it. If you can upgrade and are thinking of V5, V5.1 is very stable and has done us well since we had it. z/VM 5.2 is really good and especially useful for the 2G storage relief. Chances are you will be okay with V5.2 - you just have to keep in mind it is

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/28/2006 at 11:05 PST, Austin, Alyce (CIV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because of the growing pains with 5.2, is support for z/VM 4.4 going to be extended beyond 9/06? Alyce, what you aren't hearing about are all the sites that have z/VM 5.2 running with *no* problems; as stable as

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Mike Walter
Yes, there are a *few* sites that are having stability problems, Uh huh. And they're the whiney sites. That's right -- you know who you are!! :-) Mike (having a Chuckie moment) Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
We've only had 1 problem to date on our very busy (overloaded :) z9-109 2 engine, 80 linux machine and we've had 5.2.0 there since 1/21. We had MPROUTE hang last week. It was due to *something* in our network which caused our MTU to change and MPROUTE to hang. Workaround fix (before PK20644

RPCGEN misery on z/VM 5.2 + RSU05104

2006-03-28 Thread Daniel P. Martin
I've learned to never be afraid to admit ignorance and ask questions of those who are better informed, so here goes... I'm trying to get RPCGEN to build the necessary hooks for the System Management API on z/VM 5.1. Both before and after applying the 5104 RSU, things fail mid-way through the

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/28/2006 at 04:05 CST, Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, there are a *few* sites that are having stability problems, Uh huh. And they're the whiney sites. That's right -- you know who you are!! :-) I wondered where the ol' Chuckster has been. Now I know.

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Schuh, Richard
We have to be whiney demanding. Having too many fall back events hurts our job stability, which is infinitely more critical than the stability of the system. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of

Re: RPCGEN misery on z/VM 5.2 + RSU05104

2006-03-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/28/2006 at 04:16 CST, Daniel P. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get RPCGEN to build the necessary hooks for the System Management API on z/VM 5.1. Both before and after applying the 5104 RSU, things fail mid-way through the process. If I'm missing something

Re: RPCGEN misery on z/VM 5.2 + RSU05104

2006-03-28 Thread Daniel P. Martin
Light bulb... Now there's an idea... OK, maybe this is a better question: I didn't find any obvious indication as to required LE levels and/or required loadlib / txtlib settings for rpcgen. I can't be the only person to have tried this ;-) and the system in question is a plain, vanilla,

Re: Update on z/VM 5.2.0 problem

2006-03-28 Thread Martha McConaghy
Geeezztake a day off and the discussion gets completely out of control! First, no one was whining as far as I can tell. We all have pretty high expectations of VM now, and more often than not, it meets them. I'm not complaining about z/VM 5.2.0 in any way. We signed up for the early