Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread Alan Ackerman
I don't think IBM could legally charge different prices to different user s. I'm SURE their lawyers would let them. I guess that was a rhetorical question on my part. But I think Tony Thigpen got it right: Hardware sales Hardware sales and even Hardware sales I think that the only reason VM is

Re: Z890 and OSA ICC configuration

2006-04-17 Thread Jon Brock
It happened to me the last time we did a power-on reset, but I can't remember the exact circumstance. I think the SE who was doing the POR selected a default configuration or something like that. (Not his fault.) Jon BTW, after the first time that I set up using the panels, I exported th

Re: Z890 and OSA ICC configuration

2006-04-17 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
I am home on vacation, so I can't check this right now, but... Isn't there a "scroll bar" on the side of the panel to scroll down to additional sessions? I have set up much more than 16. BTW, after the first time that I set up using the panels, I exported the config file, and then edited it on a

Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread Jack Woehr
Tony Thigpen wrote: Hardware sales Hardware sales and even Hardware sales Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Stephen Frazier Sent: 04/17/2006 02:54 PM I said that Alan probably knows what the real reason is that IBM will not license z/VM V5 on Flex to commercial users. He may

Re: COPY a DRR VM created tape

2006-04-17 Thread George Haddad
Doesn't the DDR dump need to be made with the FTR32K option for this to work? >How about: > >//COPYDDR JOB whatever >//COPY EXEC PGM=IEBGENER >//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* >//SYSUT1 DD DSN=DDRTAPE.IN,LABEL=(1,NL),DISP=(OLD,KEEP), >//VOL=SER=DDRTPI,UNIT=3480, (or UNIT=whatever in yo

Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
Steve, Have you not figured it out yet? Hardware sales Hardware sales and even Hardware sales Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Stephen Frazier Sent: 04/17/2006 02:54 PM I said that Alan probably knows what the real reason is that IBM will not license z/VM V5 on Flex to commerc

Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread Stephen Frazier
I said that Alan probably knows what the real reason is that IBM will not license z/VM V5 on Flex to commercial users. He may not know, but that is unlikely. IBM will not tell their customers why they will not sell them a license to run z/VM V5. At WAVV on Saturday a salesman from IBM tried to

Re: z/VM 4.3 and z890

2006-04-17 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello David, Thanks. You are confirming what I have been finding out. I appreciate the info. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Dav

Re: COPY a DRR VM created tape

2006-04-17 Thread Bill Stephens
How about: //COPYDDR JOB whatever //COPY EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DSN=DDRTAPE.IN,LABEL=(1,NL),DISP=(OLD,KEEP), //VOL=SER=DDRTPI,UNIT=3480, (or UNIT=whatever in your shop) //DCB=(RECFM=U,BLKSIZE=32760) //SYSUT2 DD DSN=DDRTAPE.OUT,LABEL=

COPY a DRR VM created tape

2006-04-17 Thread david harting
I am trying to copy a VM DDR created tape. I am trying to use Z/OS to copy from a 3480 to a 3590 tape. Can i do this? I need this in a disaster. What JCL should I use? I tryed DITTO but it did not work.

Z890 and OSA ICC configuration

2006-04-17 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
We are having a slight problem when attempting to configure the OSA ICC on our new Z890. We can configure 0-15 ports just fine. It's the 16-31 ports that are a problem. Port 16-31 are not showing up on the configuration screen. How do I get ports above 15 configured? Forgive me if my question is

Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread David Boyes
> As you well know the Flex is a z/Architecture box. Many developers run > z/VM V5 > on it today. This you know also. IBM will not allow commercial users to > license > z/VM V5 on a Flex machine. You probably know the reason but for some > reason you > will not tell your customers the truth. Easy

Re: DDR in Pipelines question

2006-04-17 Thread Michael Coffin
Sorry for the delay in responding to this. You might look into using the ALTTAPE parm to have DDR "spill" to another tape volume automagically. This works, but unfortunately it ties up TWO tape drives for what is essentially a single tape dump "stream". I modified DDR so the EOT condition trigge

Re: z/VM 4.3 and z890

2006-04-17 Thread David Boyes
> > 1) I will be running in LPAR mode on the z890. You don't get a choice. There is no basic mode on these boxes. > > 2) Which means that I can have one V=R machine without the > > I/O pass-through. So is V=R really any good? > > 3) No V=F support. Pre

Re: Z890 and zVM 4.3

2006-04-17 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Tony, This is a 'done-deal'. I am not impressed with our EMC support people. I do like the box. And there are good support people out in Pittsburgh that have stepped up and gotten us the info. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441

Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread Stephen Frazier
As you well know the Flex is a z/Architecture box. Many developers run z/VM V5 on it today. This you know also. IBM will not allow commercial users to license z/VM V5 on a Flex machine. You probably know the reason but for some reason you will not tell your customers the truth. [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: z/VM 4.3 and z890

2006-04-17 Thread Rich Smrcina
With the z890 I just stopped using V=R. I saw no appreciable difference. Edward M. Martin wrote: Hello everyone, Just some more questions about the z890 and z/VM 4.3. 1) I will be running in LPAR mode on the z890. 2) Which means that I can have one V=R machin

Re: Z890 and zVM 4.3

2006-04-17 Thread Tony Thigpen
Review the option of a Flex-Cub based dasd box. You could then add tape and other emulation if you wanted to. Should be cheaper than the EMC path. Tony Thigpen -Original Message - From: Edward M. Martin Sent: 04/17/2006 10:34 AM Hello Everyone, I appreciate all the info, hi

z/VM 4.3 and z890

2006-04-17 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello everyone, Just some more questions about the z890 and z/VM 4.3. 1) I will be running in LPAR mode on the z890. 2) Which means that I can have one V=R machine without the I/O pass-through. So is V=R really any good? 3) No V=F suppor

Z890 and zVM 4.3

2006-04-17 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Everyone, I appreciate all the info, hints, and tips from everyone. My game plan has been altered a little. We are on a MP3000 using EMC Symetrix and Internal dasd. 1) Apply the last RSU to z/VM4.3 which will give me all the required maintenance (I can

Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread David Boyes
> The fact that other > customers with large IBM machines are paying much less for version 5 would > not > matter. When and if a company grows its flex box to where it approaches > the size > of a small IBM box, then having VM cheaper on the IBM box will make a > difference. It will encourage users

Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread Sebastian Welton
Wayne Driscoll wrote: > Alan, > The point I think you are missing is that z/Architecture CAN TECHNICALL Y run > on a FLEX box, it's just that IBM REFUSES to allow FLEX z/Architecture boxes > to non PWD customers, so they are forced to either purchase the smalles t > z/890 box, plus a small Shark,

Re: FLEX-ES and z/VM 4 or z/VM 5

2006-04-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 04/16/2006 at 11:32 EST, Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan, > The point I think you are missing is that z/Architecture CAN TECHNICALLY run > on a FLEX box, it's just that IBM REFUSES to allow FLEX z/Architecture boxes > to non PWD customers, so they are forced to either