no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Anne D. Crabtree
I need to ipl my old z/vm 5.1 system on a test lpar to look at some stuff. I don't want AUTOLOG1 to start. Trying to find how to do that on ipl, but in the mean time if anyone could enlighten me, I'd be grateful!

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Imler, Steven J
At the START prompt ... reply NOAUTOLOG ... 08:42:33 z/VM V5 R3.0 SERVICE LEVEL 0701 (64-BIT) 08:42:33 SYSTEM NUCLEUS CREATED ON 2007-07-23 AT 07:26:47, LOADED FROM PARM 08:42:33 08:42:33 08:42:33 * LICENSED MATERIALS - PROPERTY

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Anne D. Crabtree
AH.. thanks! From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Imler, Steven J Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: no xautolog At the START prompt ... reply NOAUTOLOG ... 08:42:33

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Kris Buelens
Beware though: depending on the definitions in SYSTEM CONFIG, the IPL prompt can be bypassed. The safest way is then to IPL with a SAPL screen, fill in the address of a 3270 screen, or SYSG if you use an integrated 3270 console, at the SAPL screen, enter PROMPT in the IPL options input field.

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Anne D. Crabtree
We always use the SAPL screen, so I should be safe there... I converted to z/vm 5.3 last night, but my diskacnt routines were wrong so I didn't get the accounting this morning! I think I have it fixed so I won't need to ipl the 5.1 system (at least not today). However, if something else needs

Re: Does this sound vaguely familiar to anyone????

2007-09-06 Thread David Boyes
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gc i1270788,00.html?track=NL-576ad=602745asrc=EM_NLT_2119907uid=5701628 I begin to think that Perry Ruiter and I should start hiring lawyers and license the ideas we come up with. 8-( -- db

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 09/06/2007 at 08:08 EDT, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MDSK OLDVM.DISKACNT 191 (FILELIST DETACH and the MDSK EXEC finds the MDISK in OLDVM DIRECT, ATTACHes the volume to SYSTEM, issue DEFINE MDISK, ACCESS it, start FILELIST; when FILELIST ends, everything gets

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Troy A Slaughter
Kris, Please send that EXEC to me as well. I think it would come in handy as I prepare to 'go live' with VM 5.3 next week. Thanks Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 09/06/2007 07:07 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Anne D. Crabtree
When you say source of the old CP directory are you referring to the whole USER DIRECT? I tried to ATT rdev * and I added a MDISK statement in my 5.3 user directory, but I couldn't acc the mdisk. It kept saying the volume wasn't mounted. (It was the 510W01 volume that I needed.. so no

3590 (B1A) Hardware Compression

2007-09-06 Thread Michael Coffin
We use 3590 B1A drives, with 10/30 carts providing native capacity of 10GB, with up to 30GB using hardware compression. I am under the impression that the hardware will choose the best compression possible UNLESS it is specifically told otherwise (i.e. via a TAPE COMP/NOCOMP and DDR

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Kris Buelens
No, MDSK is not that clever. It will be after my holidays next week... 2007/9/6, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday, 09/06/2007 at 08:08 EDT, Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MDSK OLDVM.DISKACNT 191 (FILELIST DETACH and the MDSK EXEC finds the MDISK in OLDVM DIRECT,

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Kris Buelens
Yes, you need the whole USER DIRECT, but please rename it to some other fname that you don't confuse it with the 5.3 directory. With ATTACH to yourself, you can see the whole volume. To access a minidisk on that volume, you need some help from CP, therefore, the disk must be attached to CP (i.e.

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Anne D. Crabtree
I actually have a copy of USER DIRECT from 5.1 saved in z/os... I already had a mdisk defined in the 5.3 user direct pointing to the spot on the 5.1 volume that I needed. So, I was able to do the ATT dasd SYSTEM and I could then ACCess ii! I will have to look at your EXEC a bit. Much too

AW: 3590 (B1A) Hardware Compression

2007-09-06 Thread Rempel, Horst
Hello Michael, you must install the mtst command in your Linux. After that you can enable the hardwarecompression (as far as I know the dafault is OFF) # mtst -f /dev/rtibm0 compression 1 This helped in my environment(Suse sles9) kindest regards Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Horst Rempel

Re: 3590 (B1A) Hardware Compression

2007-09-06 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:14:17 -0400, Michael Coffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use 3590 B1A drives, with 10/30 carts providing native capacity of 10GB, with up to 30GB using hardware compression. I am under the impression that the hardware will choose the best compression possible UNLESS it is

Re: 3590 (B1A) Hardware Compression

2007-09-06 Thread Brian Nielsen
Sorry, I meant the IBMLZ1 compression. IDRC is for 3490's. On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:00:45 -0500, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IDRC compression is on by default, but can be turned off via software parameters. Some data is not well suited to compression, which may be the case with

sample STSI CMS assmembler program

2007-09-06 Thread Derek Ackerman
Does anyone have an example of obtaining basic systrm info from CMS assembler? I have several back level VM systems so I can't use the new REXX API. I need output from FC=1 and SEL1 2 = 1. My concerns are: does the instruction require 64 bit mode? Does the 4K data area have to be a REAL level

Re: sample STSI CMS assmembler program

2007-09-06 Thread David Boyes
DIAG 0 also reports a lot of nice information about the system and the VM release. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Ackerman Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:19 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Mike Walter
This could be handy for anyone migrating to new systems, or even managing multiple systems. Sure... we can do it ourselves (and probably most do), but when chip a new wheel from old stone? Could you send the updated MDSK package to the IBM VM Download Page? Yes, you knew someone would ask.

Re: sample STSI CMS assmembler program

2007-09-06 Thread Bruce Hayden
Can use use the STSI pipeline stage that is part of the free runtime library distribution? (see http://vm.marist.edu/~pipeline/index.html#Runtime). That's what I've been using for several years.. On 9/6/07, Derek Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have an example of obtaining

Re: sample STSI CMS assmembler program

2007-09-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 09/06/2007 at 10:19 EDT, Derek Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have an example of obtaining basic systrm info from CMS assembler? What kind of information are you looking for? I have several back level VM systems so I can't use the new REXX API. I need

Re: no xautolog

2007-09-06 Thread Kris Buelens
The default is indeed a R/O access, but no, it doesn't use ACCESSM0 (yet). We use it to access disks of our other VM systems. But, since we've got even better MDSK is not much used. The more clever version -named FLDISK- first finds the volser of the object directory in a control file, it then

Weizmann Institute of Science (WIS) VM Closing

2007-09-06 Thread Larry Israel
After slightly missing the closing date of end of 2001, it looks like we will be shutting down sometimes between October 1 and December 30. One good thing about our VM/ESA 2.4 system -- no new bugs in a very long time. I have been baby-sitting the system on a part-time basis for the last four

Re: sample STSI CMS assmembler program

2007-09-06 Thread Dale R. Smith
Derek, here is some Assembler code that I was working on at one time to issue STSI for the basic machine configuration, (1.1.1). I had plans to add code to set REXX variables for the extracted fields, but I didn't hav e time to complete it before I was let go. So I will leave that part to

Re: Weizmann Institute of Science (WIS) VM Closing

2007-09-06 Thread Jim Bohnsack
That's the way I'm hoping to phase into retirement. Congratulations. Jim Larry Israel wrote: After slightly missing the closing date of end of 2001, it looks like we will be shutting down sometimes between October 1 and December 30. One good thing about our VM/ESA 2.4 system -- no new bugs in

Re: Weizmann Institute of Science (WIS) VM Closing

2007-09-06 Thread David Kreuter
...throw it a shiva not a wake! sad day. no virtualized linuxes I guess in their future David -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of David Boyes Sent: Thu 9/6/2007 2:48 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Weizmann Institute of Science (WIS) VM

Re: Weizmann Institute of Science (WIS) VM Closing

2007-09-06 Thread David Boyes
After slightly missing the closing date of end of 2001, it looks like we will be shutting down sometimes between October 1 and December 30. One good thing about our VM/ESA 2.4 system -- no new bugs in a very long time. I have been baby-sitting the system on a part-time basis for the last four

Re: sample STSI CMS assmembler program

2007-09-06 Thread Dale R. Smith
Sure, I can take APARs! Then I'll take several months to come out with a PTF that's broken, then several more months to fix it, which will break i t for other people who were relying on the original broken PTF! :-) -- Dale R. Smith (Not related to Chuckie or Alan! :-) ) I haven't failed.

RSU for z/VM 5.3

2007-09-06 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hello Everyone, What is the highest RSU for z/VM 5.3? 5301 (701)? Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441

Re: Weizmann Institute of Science (WIS) VM Closing

2007-09-06 Thread Edward M. Martin
Hey, Good Luck and have a very fine retirement. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Israel Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:34 PM

Re: RSU for z/VM 5.3

2007-09-06 Thread RPN01
I have 5301 -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice

Me thnks 'Chuckie' is afoot -

2007-09-06 Thread Raymond Noal
Ok, you network gurus; I've got one for you - The TCP/IP address of my z/OS 1.8 system is 111.222.333.11. (not really, and yes, I know this is the VM list) When I run this REXX Exec - /* REXX */ SAY SOCKET('INITIALIZE','MYID')

Re: RSU for z/VM 5.3

2007-09-06 Thread Mike Walter
Getting the answer to that question is why I keep a CURRRSU EXEC on MAINT's 191 disk. It contains: ---snip--- /* */ say 'The most-current RSU is always included on PTF UM97vrm' say 'e.g. UM97520 for z/VM 5.2.0, and UM97530 for z/VM 5.3.0.' ---snip--- Very simple, usually relatively

XML REXX tools?

2007-09-06 Thread Ian S. Worthington
Any know of any good tools for the manipulation (reading/writing/updating) of XML structures for REXX on CMS? Or am I looking at another roll your own job here? Ian S Worthington ... http://isw.me.uk/ Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, sed dulcius pro patria vivere,

Re: sample STSI CMS assmembler program

2007-09-06 Thread Derek Ackerman
Dale, Thanks very much, I made my changes (see att) and output is: EP AT 8001 --- IN CASE I NEED TO TRACE 2066-004.IBM I couldn't find the HCPSSIBK, however. Derek Ackerman Capacity Planning etc. (201) 759-0833 -Original

Re: Weizmann Institute of Science (WIS) VM Closing

2007-09-06 Thread Shimon Lebowitz
Larry, I am sorry to hear that your VM is finally really going away. We at the Israel Police are still very grateful to you for the library of screen control routines you gave me back in the 80s, which is still heavily used, after being embedded in my WYSIWIG screen painter program. Enjoy your

Re: XML REXX tools?

2007-09-06 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Take a look at this file on the CBT Site http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT647.zip It is described as: An XML parser written in REXX from Andrew Armstrong cheers Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering, Client

Re: XML REXX tools?

2007-09-06 Thread Neale Ferguson
Also: http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/xmlparse.vmarc On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 14:25 -0700, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: Take a look at this file on the CBT Site http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT647.zip It is described as: An XML parser written in REXX from Andrew Armstrong

Re: Size of Mdisk

2007-09-06 Thread Rich Smrcina
z/VM supports very large disk sizes. With the shared file system, you can pool disk volumes together into even larger minidisks. How much disk space do you think you'll need? Suleiman Shahin wrote: Greetings folks, I know this is elementary, but I have to ask! I have an application that

Re: Size of Mdisk

2007-09-06 Thread David Boyes
I wonder how large an m-disk I can allocate for this app without going overboard. The largest usable CMS minidisk you can define is 1 cylinder smaller than the physical size of the volume where the minidisk resides (cyl 0 of the disk is used for the CP volume label). If you need more space

Re: Size of Mdisk

2007-09-06 Thread David Boyes
This application now has 2 3390-9s. The SFS sounds like a reasonable option. Some tips about SFS: 1) Be sure to do the math for the size of the control disks and catalog disks before you start seriously loading stuff into SFS and overallocate, overallocate, overallocate; better too big than

Re: Size of Mdisk

2007-09-06 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Everyone, or almost everyone, does the same type of thing. You might ask yourself how far back you need to have quick access to an old report or listing. For things that are probably never going to be seen again, write them to tape after x months. I let the OPERATOR and some other service

Re: Size of Mdisk

2007-09-06 Thread Suleiman Shahin
Thanks David and Rich. This application now has 2 3390-9s. The SFS sounds like a reasonable option. Suleiman Shahin Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:31:55 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Size of Mdisk To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I wonder how large an m-disk I can allocate for

Size of Mdisk

2007-09-06 Thread Suleiman Shahin
Greetings folks, I know this is elementary, but I have to ask! I have an application that sends lots of VSE/POWER listings to a CMS userid with a hot reader that reads these files and stores them packed. The older files get deleted and new files keep coming and so on. I wonder how large an