That is sort of true, XAUTOLOG and have a user logon to a terminal .. that
is relativly new, but I think it was in 4.4.
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Decommissioning is entirely between your CE and your site.
Ask your CE if he/she has other ways to obtain hardware error information
instead of this old application. If so (and probably) then he/she will
probably not care. And you'll save a little electrical power, too!
Mike Walter
Hewitt A
so is this obsolete?
since we have a 2096 with an HMC, can this PC 350 in the corner be
decommissioned?
prg
Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL
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04/07/2008 01:58:45 PM:
> Looking at the ACCOUNT record/entry gives a b
Looking at the ACCOUNT record/entry gives a bit of a clue since it says
IBMCE. I tend to agree with one of the other posters that it was setup
for sending EREP records to a PC. I remember setting up a user for this
purpose a long time ago. I don't remember what the userid was. Someone
else made
> IBM's Service Director PC did log itself into VM via a 'terminal': PC
> had a cable into a 3172? controller and looked like 'terminal' from
VM's
> viewpoint.
> hence, SERVICE - 0362
If I remember that product correctly, an automated process on an
outboard PC logged in and periodically ran a num
Exactly
The Service Director should automatically begin uploading to itself the
RDR files from CMS Userid IBMSVCDR when it is ready.
You shouldn't have to XAUTOLOG IBMSVCDR, the Service Director itself
will do that.
It could have been customized to bypass the VM LOGO screen by aut
IBM's Service Director PC did log itself into VM via a 'terminal': PC
had a cable into a 3172? controller and looked like 'terminal' from VM's
viewpoint.
hence, SERVICE - 0362
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Not possible. A command must come from the terminal to log the user on.
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>My vote’s for IBM Service Director. I remember setting that up last
century for our CE.
would Service Director be set up to log itself on to a 'terminal' ?
prg
Phillip Gramly
Systems Programm
>My vote?s for IBM Service Director. I remember setting that up last
century for our CE.
would Service Director be set up to log itself on to a 'terminal' ?
prg
Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL
No. After your IPL someone at the terminal 362 typed in a logon command for
SERVICE.
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would it be restarted after an IPL just because it was running when i
shutdown?
yes, it is an actual machine called SERVICE.
Ready; T=0.02/0.02 12:09:05
q na
SERVICE - 0362, SP4
no, SERVICE is not listed as a System Userid:
System_Userids ,
Operator OPERATOR disconnect ,
Account DISKACNT ,
Dump OPERATNS ,
Erep EREP
prg
Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL
>My vote?s for IBM Service Director. I remember setting that up last
century for our CE.
Ding. We have a winner.
curious, i went in and looked at the cables plugged into the 3174.
port 2 is labeled with IBM Service Director.
So what does it do?
prg
Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communicat
My vote's for IBM Service Director. I remember setting that up last
century for our CE.
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Phillip,
In the System Config is it listed in the "System_Userids" ? if it is how
is it listed?
Bill Munson
VM System Programmer
201-418-7588
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There used to be a PC type device called an IBM Service Director that
you could send erep records to. The DIST IBMCE seems to be a clue.
Maybe you still have one, particularly if you are a big shop with on
site CE coverage.
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MaryAnne, et.al., What I wound up doing is this (code below). This was my
test code and I've now incorporated this capability into a routine that
cleans out the spool and forwards the files to z/OS for archiving in
CA-View (aka SAR)
/* rexx routine to ftp a file to the jes reader
on a z/OS
>There was an EMC service machine called SERVICE here that was started by
the Operator to send info to EMC support (IIRC).
we've never had EMC disk.
prg
Phillip Gramly
Systems Programmer
Communications Data Group
Champaign, IL
>the mdisk statement tells me this has been a round since VM/ESA 2.2.0 - I
would bet.
the previous SPs have carved up the old 220W01 into minidisks for various
things.
the label never got changed.
so no telling how old SERVICE actually is.
>Is the terminal address in your SYSTEM CONFIG as an o
>Its not your EREP machine by any chance is it?
>Look in SYSTEM CONFIG and/or do a QUERY RECORDING.
no it's not EREP.
q recording
RECORDINGCOUNT LMT USERID COMMUNICATION
EREP ON 002 EREP ACTIVE
ACCOUNT OFF 020 DISKACNT ACTIVE
SYMPTOM ON 002 OPER
>Was there anything else on the 191 disk beside the PROFILE EXEC?
just the LASTING GLOBALV file and a IND$FILE MODULE from 1995.
i wonder if this was for uploading/downloading source to/from a PC a long
time ago.
>Does the "PRGRAMLY" in the LOGONBY look familiar?
yes - that is my CMS userid.
the best piece of advice I have seen is this one:
If you?re the systems programmer for the system, and you don?t know what
the account is used for, then one very sure way to find out would be to
change the password and see who runs into your office. No amount of
research can replace a good, wel
>Its PROFILE EXEC comments might tell you if it?s home-grown or a
vendor?s and what it?s meant to do.
i looked at SERVICE profile exec:
&CONTROL OFF
CP TERM MODE VM
CP SET MSG OFF
CP SET WNG ON
CP SET EMSG ON
CP SET RUN ON
CP SPOOL READER CLASS *
CP SPOOL CONSOLE CLOSE
CP SPOOL PUNCH CLOSE
CP SPO
Hello Phillip,
There was an EMC service machine called SERVICE here that was
started by the Operator to send info to EMC support
(IIRC). We shut it down a couple years back and I removed it.
Ed Martin
330-588-4723
ext 40441
From: The IBM z/VM Oper
It looks like the "SERVICE" is running and looking for input from the RDR
queue
Two things I did notice
MDISK 191 3390 2183 005 220W01 MR A6SOLLA UK21OYS SBYNIM1
the mdisk statement tells me this has been a round since VM/ESA 2.2.0 - I
would bet.
and it looks like it might be logged on by on
Its not your EREP machine by any chance is it? Look in SYSTEM CONFIG
and/or do a QUERY RECORDING.
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The clue left here is:
AUTOLOG VAUTOLG1 VOP1 VMAINT
That says that the userids "AUTOLOG VAUTOLG1 VOP1 VMAINT" can AUTOLOG
SERVICE without a password.
Google did not turn up anything for VAUTOLG1, and the one VMAINT was in a
Domino manual and not obviously applicable.
Was there anything else on
First, a good rule of thumb is to not broadcast the password for any of your
userids in a public forum (i.e Here). Always replace the password with
eight ³X²s and keep them secret. If you replaced the actual password with
³SMILE², then the use of eight ³X²s would keep paranoid people like me
qu
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you appear to have posted the
logon and link passwords for a high privilege userid in public. I
suggest you change them immediately.
Peter
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Phillip,
>From MAINT or some userid with LNKNOPAS privilege: VMLINK SERVICE 191
and look at SERVICE's PROFILE EXEC.
Its PROFILE EXEC comments might tell you if it's home-grown or a
vendor's and what it's meant to do.
Let us know what you find.
--
Bill,
>Does AUTOLOG1 log on a SVM called "AUDITOR" by chance?
no, no machine called AUDITOR started in AUTOLOG1.
i logged on to SERVICE. it has a file called LASTING GLOBALV on 191.
that file has a recent update date and time - today just 30 minutes ago.
here is a sample of the contents:
$SERVIC
here is the USER DIRECT entry for SERVICE:
*
USER SERVICE SMILE 16M 32M ABCDEFG
LOGONBY MAINT PRGRAMLY
MACHINE XA
AUTOLOG VAUTOLG1 VOP1 VMAINT
ACCOUNT VOLTSEP IBMCE
IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR
OPTION QUICKD
SHARE RELATIVE 1000
CONSOLE 009 3215
SPOOL 00C 2540 READER A
SPOOL 00D 25
>does "OPERATOR" have its console spooled?
>you can look at Operator's console
>to see when it was logged on and perhaps by whom.
i just IPLed VM yesterday (this is zVM 4.4) and i looked
thru the OPERATOR ouput since the ipl and don't see where
SERVICE got started.
prg
Phillip Gramly
Systems P
Phillip,
Looking in the "USER DIRECT distributed with z/VM 5.3.0 there is no userid
called "SERVICE". What release of VM are you running? It seems that
some application installed at your site defined the userid "SERVICE".
Can you check the directory entry for "SERVICE" to see what minidisks
On Monday, 04/07/2008 at 01:04 EDT, "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Is there such a thing as a VIRTUAL 3172? or some way to emmulate such
an
> animal?
No, and yes. z/VM does not provide a simulated 3172, though an OSA card
can emulate it (for those that support OSE chpid type).
yes, it is an actual machine called SERVICE.
Ready; T=0.02/0.02 12:09:05
q na
SERVICE - 0362, SP4 - DSC , etc.
q service
SERVICE - 0362
**Maint**; T=0.01/0.01 12:16:04
ind user service
USERID=SERVICE MACH=XA STOR=16M VIRT=V XSTORE=NONE
IPLSYS=CMS DEVNUM=7
PAGES: RES=0117 W
Where do you see it running? Can you issue a QUERY SERVICE or IND USER
SERVICE and get some information back?
Steve G.
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Is there such a thing as a VIRTUAL 3172? or some way to emmulate such an
animal?
I think he said he had an actual machine called "SERVICE" logged on to a
physical address.
at least that is the way I read his note - but then I am an old man - and
forgetful ;-)
munson
"Gentry, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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04/07/2008 12:47 PM
Ple
SERVICE machine is kind of synonymous with a VM userid. Service refers
to more of a task that it does rather than an actual machine named
"SERVICE". I always considered them to be long running users. For
instance, we use DB2, which runs 24/7, hence it is a service that is
always running. There m
Phillip,
Does "SERVICE" have its console spooled?
does "OPERATOR" have its console spooled?
you can look at Operator's console to see when it was logged on and
perhaps by whom.
you can look at Service's console and perhaps see what it has been doing
while logged on.
Does AUTOLOG1 log on a SVM ca
what is the SERVICE machine for?
i don't see it started in AUTOLOG1, yet there it is running.
and it is not running disconnected, but on a terminal address.
a look at its PROFILE EXEC doesn't reveal anything.
searching on 'service' in the CP Planning and Admin book has so
many hits that i gave up
Also, you may need a dcb on the sysut2 dd to keep your 254 byte lrecl. Try
//sysut2 dd sysout=g,dcb=(lrecl=254,blksize=254,recfm=fb)
MA
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Lionel,
> You can wrap your file in the IEBGENER jcl and ftp it, then the file wi
Lionel,
You can wrap your file in the IEBGENER jcl and ftp it, then the file will be
in the output queue.
Like so in the file you ftp to the intrdr:
//jobname
//gen exec pgm=iebgener, region=0m
//sysprint dd sysout=*
//sysin dd dummy
//sysut1 dd *
This is the text of the file I'd like to send ove
Of course the 5206RSU date on this web page is better at least it says
MARCH 2008
Bill Munson
VM System Programmer
201-418-7588
President MVMUA
http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/
Fox Blue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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As far as z/VM 5.2.0 goes I would have to agree.
On March 27, 2008 I ordered UM97520 the ptf for z/VM 5.2.0 (5205RSU) the
web site said 0702RSU
since we were at 701 that would bring us up a level.
I was pleasantly surprised when it arrived and the documentation said:
5206RSU Stacked Product RSU -
Dear all,
I think it would be nice when IBM would update the page regarding
availability of the next RSUs. (http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/rsu/rsuplan
.HTML)
Would be interested when for DIRMAINT or RACF an RSU level will be made
available.
BR Fox
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