Hillgang reminder

2010-03-24 Thread Neale Ferguson
A gentle reminder that the next meeting of Hillgang will take place on Friday 26 March, in Herndon Virginia at the CA office. The meetingĀ¹s agenda and directions are found at http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/hill0326.pdf.

initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi I have a question. What I have been doing up to this point for a new z/Linux guest build is, not necessarily in this order and does not necessarily include all steps but, Crave out the DASD for the z/Linux guest Init the DASD using CPFMTXA putting a label on the disk

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
I have meant to bring this up to the list before now, but since you mention it... I use the clone a golden image methodology. I've used DDR, which always works, and I've used dasdfmt and dd, which sometimes results in an unstable system. I can't pin it down exactly, but I think it happens

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Walter
Use LXFMT from z/VM, no need to reformat the disk under Linux. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. From an earlier post: Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:50:31 -0500 Reply-To: r...@vsoftsys.com Sender: The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
The disks are formatted during the Kick Start not sure if there is a choice there to init or not during the Kick Start process Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -Original

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread David Boyes
On 3/24/10 1:53 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: Hi I have a question. What I have been doing up to this point for a new z/Linux guest build is, not necessarily in this order and does not necessarily include all steps but, Crave out the DASD for

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
You can DEDICATE by label rather than by real address. But I still don't like Linux having cyl 0 :) Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread David Boyes
On 3/24/10 2:40 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: You can DEDICATE by label rather than by real address. But I still don't like Linux having cyl 0 :) Nice to know. I'd missed that in the help files. Still, safer to let CP and z/OS duke that one out, and let Linux get on

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Scott Rohling
Terry -- You have to init the DASD when using minidisks- using CPFMTXA to put a label on -- and you also want to format cylinder 0 to ensure it's seen as a CP volume. When the zLinux guest does an 'init' -- it is doing a format of the whole disk - not just an 'init' and label. You can

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/24/2010 at 03:22 EDT, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: On 3/24/10 2:40 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: You can DEDICATE by label rather than by real address. But I still don't like Linux having cyl 0 :) Nice to know. I'd missed that in the

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Mark Post
On 3/24/2010 at 03:38 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how DFDSS reacts to Linux formatted volumes, offhand .. it does fine with CPVOL volumes and minidisks. It looks like a regular OS volume with no free space on it. That was the whole reason the CDL was

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Sterling James
why would you do that rather than use minidisks Just curious, if XRC is wanted, VM doesn't timestamp I/Os, but linux does? If you use dedicates, isn't the data movers happier? like 0x0200 and 0x0300 You can use CDL and specify the volume label; dasdfmt -p -b 4096 -l LNX012 -dcdl -f /dev/dasdd

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
z/OS duke that one out, and let Linux get on with doing useful stuff. When giving guests access to real cyl 0, I suggest: 1. If using a full-pack mindisk, use the DEVNO version instead of volser. That way it doesn't matter if the guest changes the label. Unless you use mirroring and move to

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
why would you do that rather than use minidisks Just curious, if XRC is wanted, VM doesn't timestamp I/Os, but linux does? If you use dedicates, isn't the data movers happier? only a wee bit happier for the cyl 0 VM writes on. Linux will still timestamp on minidisks. and if you

Re: Capping info

2010-03-24 Thread Kris Buelens
No CP command as far as I know, STSI: I don't think so. But, performance monitors report this in their LPAR reports. If you've got Perfkit: PIPE VMC PERFSVM |. Hence you could use a PIPE to listen to the monitor records and analyse it yourself. You must be prepared to unravel raw

Re: Capping info

2010-03-24 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
the perfkit FCX126 LPAR screen shows LPAR weight. one way to display it is run this to see menu choice 8 - the FCX126 LPAR screen PERFKIT FCONAPPC FCXRES00 8 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste

Re: Capping info

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/24/2010 at 04:55 EDT, Alain Benveniste a.benveni...@free.fr wrote: Is there a way to get the info if my VM lpar is capped or not and what is weight ? Could be great to see these info with the indicate cmd...? This info is needed for us to avoid to run licenced products

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/24/2010 at 04:51 EDT, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: I thought there was overhead in specifying it as a minidisk rather than a dedicated full disk. The overhead would be in the translation of the I/O addresses and such. You know like linux reading cyl 0 when it's really

Re: initializing z/Linux disks

2010-03-24 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Thanks all for the information. As far as DEDICATING the volume is concerned I thought that the I/O overhead was cheaper that is why I was wondering about this. I am fine with doing the way I have always done it (MDISK) but someone had suggested this to me and I wanted to find out more about

Re: z/VM/ Linux Systems Programmer Opportunity with Compuware Corporation top Mainframe z/VM Systems Programmer

2010-03-24 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Should everyone be precluded from seeing help wanted ads here because of some (a few, I hope) companies' (silly, IMHO) policies? Do those companies also forbid their employees from reading newspaper classified sections or visiting help wanted sites on their home computers? Do the companies

Re: z/VM/ Linux Systems Programmer Opportunity with Compuware Corporation top Mainframe z/VM Systems Programmer

2010-03-24 Thread zMan
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Gabe Goldberg g...@gabegold.com wrote: Should everyone be precluded from seeing help wanted ads here because of some (a few, I hope) companies' (silly, IMHO) policies? Do those companies also forbid their employees from reading newspaper classified sections or

Moderator comment Re: [IBMVM] z/VM/ Linux Systems Programmer Opportunity ...

2010-03-24 Thread IBMVM Moderator
It's not just an issue of narrow-minded corporate management on theoretical remote systems. Please bear in mind that we are hosted, for free, by a state-run, tax-supported institution. For better or ill, UARK has a long-standing policy about not using their infrastructure for that type of