Re: Automated Logoff of CMS user

2010-06-02 Thread David Boyes
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Natch. One must always challenge a flawed finding. Likewise, one must accept the valid ones. Wisdom is knowing the difference. [With apologies to Dr. Niebuhr.] I

Re: Automated Logoff of CMS user

2010-06-02 Thread Thomas Kern
Actually he had been the junior on audit team two years before. He remembered arguing with me and gave up earlier than his boss had done. But winning these audit battles doesn't really help you with the audit te am themselves, but helps your boss remember that you really do know what you are

VM 6.1 1st level install from FTP?

2010-06-02 Thread Lee Stewart
Has anyone tried installing 1st level from an FTP server? (Our machine is in Dallas and us and the DVD are here in Denver.) The HMC will load from the FTP server. Then maybe just run DVDPRIME? But does the RAM image have the 22CC and 2CF1 disks to be loaded? Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE

Re: VM 6.1 1st level install from FTP?

2010-06-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 06/02/2010 at 12:08 EDT, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: Has anyone tried installing 1st level from an FTP server? (Our machine is in Dallas and us and the DVD are here in Denver.) The HMC will load from the FTP server. Then maybe just run DVDPRIME? But

Re: VM 6.1 1st level install from FTP?

2010-06-02 Thread Lee Stewart
Cool! Thanks, we'll give it a try. Lee On 6/2/2010 11:06 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Wednesday, 06/02/2010 at 12:08 EDT, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: Has anyone tried installing 1st level from an FTP server? (Our machine is in Dallas and us and the DVD are here in

Re: VM 6.1 1st level install from FTP?

2010-06-02 Thread Michael MacIsaac
The only difference is that you have set up the HMC to associate the mass storage media service with a remote FTP server instead of the local DVD drive. Yes, there is that approach, but isn't there another approach where you just list the FTP credentials in the Load from Removable Media HMC

How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
I'm having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I've looked through the z/VM Service Guide and z/VM Automated Installation and Service. Can someone point me in the right direction? Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Ray Waters
Frank, Logon to MAINT and try out VMFINFO EXEC. Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to determine if a particular fix is applied I'm

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
Well, that's much easier than it was in the VM/ESA days! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ray Waters Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Ray Waters
You got that right. Be sure and: Setup ... YESfor the first PTF/APAR you check on. Then if staying with same component, no need to SETUP again. Ray From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:23 PM

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Marcy Cortes
well, that's the truth! But it's going to tell you if SES has applied it. If you've not done PUT2PROD and IPL'd, it may not be on your system. Actually verifying that your running system has it is another can of worms involved reading CPLOAD maps date/timestamps and Q CPLEVEL. Sure would be

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Ray Waters
That is when you go be to the old way: VMFSETUP ZVM CP and then FILEL * *APAR#* * Ray -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Marcy Cortes
A CP query would allow the operator to be able to do it and then the change requestor can sleep through the night! :) Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use,

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Ray Waters
We've got it pretty sweet now, try the VM days before SES. I am happy with SES. Ray -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to

Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?

2010-06-02 Thread Chip Davis
As many of you are aware, several years ago IBM gave the source code of Object REXX to the Rexx Language Association to maintain and enhance the language as an Open Source Project http://www.oorexx.org with a CPL 1.0 license. It currently runs on: * 32-bit Windows platforms; Windows

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Mike Walter
Perhaps you could muddle with a disconnected SVM, permitting it to execute the SERVICE ALL STATUS ... command and return the results to the requester? Even OPERATOR could issue it so that you sleep better after an sysprog-unattended service IPL. Just a SMOP, right? I often KNOW that there

Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?

2010-06-02 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Chip Davis Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project? As many of you are aware, several years ago IBM

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Marcy Cortes
Clever use of HELP. I have a bunch of similar files, but they are HOWTOs. I like the help much better! SERVICE ALL STATUS still won't tell me what I really need to know - is this system running with this PTF. Various things might have happened along the way. Someone forgot PUT2PROD, missed

Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?

2010-06-02 Thread Neale Ferguson
Sounds like an ideal project for the OSDL system based at Marist. This system is for open source developers to bring code to Linux on z. I do the development of Mono on a SLES10 system they provisioned for me. On Jun 2, 2010, at 16:14, Chip Davis c...@aresti.com wrote: As many of you are

Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?

2010-06-02 Thread Richard Troth
I have built it recently. So if you just need validation: confirmed. Yep, it works. Thanks to changes made available in 4.0.0 it actually builds according to the standard recipe. Vewy nice. As a result, both OORexx and Regina are available for both i386 (32 bit) and s390 (32 bit) on a

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Michael MacIsaac
I?m having a difficult time finding out if a particular PTF is applied. I?ve looked through the ?z/VM Service Guide? and ?z/VM Automated Installation and Service?. Can someone point me in the right direction? We did write this task up in the Virtualization Cookbooks. As I recall the key

Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?

2010-06-02 Thread Chip Davis
On 6/2/10 20:20 McKown, John said: -Original Message- Chip Davis Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:14 PM Would anyone with the necessary resources be interested in helping out? Wish I could help. However, it is quite possible to run z/Linux on Hercules/390 on an Intel system (Linux

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Mike Walter
A CP command to provide the info would be great. In the meantime, could you rig a dvm to respond to a query by: 1) confirming that the 'CPLOAD MAP' to which it is given access matches the Q CPLEVEL response: Generated at mm/dd/yy hh/mm/ss tz 2) PIPE through the CPLOAD MAP to find the

Re: How to determine if a particular fix is applied

2010-06-02 Thread Marcy Cortes
Yeah, I've already written a MAPINFO thing which pulls the useful stuff out and then compare can be used to compare it to another systems. It's come in very handy. I thought it would be useful to compare the dates of the modules in the CPLOAD MAP with the dates in the module headers that you

Re: Can you help the Open Object Rexx Project?

2010-06-02 Thread John McKown
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 21:19 +, Chip Davis wrote: On 6/2/10 20:20 McKown, John said: -Original Message- Chip Davis Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:14 PM Would anyone with the necessary resources be interested in helping out? Wish I could help. However, it is quite