Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-20 Thread Phil Smith III
Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, re 10 dimensions?: You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. As my 16-year-old would say, Feel free to ... ...phsiii

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread Schuh, Richard
Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Speaking of rumors, I got a z/VM Web Site Changes message from IBM that= said: Hello, This file on our web site changed very

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:08:48 -0600, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. Adam I was

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread Neale Ferguson
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:08 -0600, Adam Thornton wrote: On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. Sung to the tune

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread Alan Ackerman
Speaking of rumors, I got a z/VM Web Site Changes message from IBM that said: Hello, This file on our web site changed very recently: http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/index.html To unenroll for these notifications, visit: https://www.vm.ibm.com/notify/ Thanks, Your IBM z/VM Team I went

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. Adam

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread Schuh, Richard
Subject: Re: Any Rumors? On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? You'll love the string handling capabilities. HAW HAW I SLAY ME. Adam

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/19/2008 at 11:55 EST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not. The abstract includes, What makes System z so special in 10 dimensions? I didn't know that IBM had an architecture that would operate in 10-dimensional space. I have enough trouble in 3 dimensions. You

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread David Boyes
You'll love the string handling capabilities. Sung to the tune of... If I only had a (m-)brane I'm a frayed knot!

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-19 Thread McKown, John
I just heard one today at a seminar on Linux on System z in Dallas (Coppell). The racing stripe on the zNext will be GREEN! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-18 Thread Alan Ackerman
I think the answer is you contact your IBM represenative. Of course, if IBM is trying to limit attendance, there may be limitations on who can attend (perhaps only managers, for example) so they may not be able to invite you. On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:38:43 -0500, Gregg C Levine [EMAIL

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-16 Thread Mark Post
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:11 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought of this thread last night while watching 'Deal or No Deal' (yes I do have a social life) Hmm. Since when did sitting at home watching TV become considered as having a social

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-16 Thread phillip
Mark, Hmm. Since when did sitting at home watching TV become considered as having a social life? i thought the same thing, but then it occurred to me that there could be a LOT of people sitting around that same TV ... err, uhmm - socializing! throw in the odd dog and a couple of cats and

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-16 Thread Gregg C Levine
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? ... Besides my only complaint concerning the road show discussions that came up earlier is that NYC wasn't selected as a host city for one

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No kidding, MA. I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :) Perhaps it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA. As for zA - I'm pretty sure that would suggest folks outside Europe that IBM did a major

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Gentry, Stephen
, 2008 12:56 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? No kidding, MA. I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :) Perhaps it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA. zA = a really yummy pizza chain here in SF :) -- although maybe the case is reversed, huh. Marcy

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Dave Jones
Marcy Cortes wrote: No kidding, MA. I will be using that gender-based HE stuff :) Perhaps it still has time to come back as a z10 or better yet a zA. zA = a really yummy pizza chain here in SF :) -- although maybe the case is reversed, huh. Marcy Cortes Is your data center ready? Build it

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Phil Smith III
Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet?: Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) We're a bunch of pikers. The gang on IBM-MAIN would have taken this thread into at least seven completely irrelevant

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Huegel, Thomas
. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret getting us started

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 15, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Gentry, Stephen wrote: I want to see what happens when IBM gets to the zZ processor. Their TOP of the line processor. (yep, zZ/TOP). (. . . and yep, it's a Friday). a-HAW HAW HAW Adam

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread David Boyes
On 2/15/08 9:11 AM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought of this thread last night while watching 'Deal or No Deal' (yes I do have a social life) Braggart. 8-)

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Gregg C Levine
] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 8:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, when asked Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet?: Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-15 Thread Jim Elliott
... Besides my only complaint concerning the road show discussions that came up earlier is that NYC wasn't selected as a host city for one of the events. ... Actually there is an event in NYC on 2/26, but it by invitation only. There is a webcast on 2/26 for which a separate invite was sent

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Or would that be a zA? LOL. But marketing guys don't know hexadecimal :)) Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who know binary and those who don't

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Jim, Google found the following announcement presentations: http://www.baybunch.org/z9062806.pdf http://www.ibm.com/br/systems/z/events/2006/explorers2006/downloads/ibm_jose_fadel_-_system_z9_business_class.pdf ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/eserver/zseries/zos/vse/pdf3/techconf2006/G02.pdf All

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! Mary Anne (Tongue planted firmly in cheek)

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE for once!!! I've had enough of the rampant genderism on this

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Llewellyn, Mark
According to Dr. Seuss, the final authority on all matters virtual (in his epic tome, On Beyond Zebra), the letters after Z are: Yuzz, Wum, Um, Humpf, Fuddle, Glikk, Nuh, Snee, Quan, Thnad, Spazz, Floob, Zatz, Jogg, Flunn, Itch, Yekk, Vroom, and Hi. Therefore, expect to see the shiny new

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Mike Walter wrote: Ahem... a zIT (remember: Software has Slashes, while hardware don' need no stinkin' Slashes - save 'em for Zorro). And would a zIT have a software pre-req of the Clearasys utility to initialize the new system? Would it still require Clearasys

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Dave Jones
IBM has a history of announcing the bigger processor of a processor family first (e.g., the z/990 was announced before the z/890 was). I suspect that the z/HER will be the designation of the smaller modeland it will probably be better looking as well. Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/14/2008 at 11:15 EST, Mary Anne Matyaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/SHE for once!!! No no no. z/HE is

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No no no. z/HE is the System z way of saying s/he, aka she / he, but with more style and flair. ;-) A definite French accent, I would think. Practice more during SCIDS at z/HERE Rob

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? According to Dr. Seuss, the final authority on all matters virtual (in his epic tome, On Beyond Zebra), the letters after Z are: Yuzz, Wum, Um, Humpf, Fuddle, Glikk, Nuh, Snee, Quan, Thnad, Spazz, Floob, Zatz, Jogg, Flunn, Itch, Yekk, Vroom, and Hi

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Huegel, Thomas
I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? IBM

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Carlos A. Bodra
2097 is machine type for new Eclipse system, based in p6 chips. Ron Schmiedge escreveu: Jim, Google found the following announcement presentations: http://www.baybunch.org/z9062806.pdf

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Dave Jones
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:04 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread David Boyes
I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. Cream. Just cream. At least one of you knows the story. -- db

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Jim Elliott
Google found the following announcement presentations: ... All show a foil with s07 having machine type 2097. Perhaps they all copied the same foil with the same typo? :-) Ron: Yes, they all had the same typo. Jim

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread P L Lovely
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Jim Elliott
2097 is machine type for new Eclipse system, based in p6 chips. Carlos: The z6 mainframe chip-set is NOT based in POWER6 chips. There is some reuse of circuitry, but these will still be very much System z technology. See the presentation at:

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 09:13 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? And you will have to keep paying for it long after you are separated from it. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Richard Troth
Zo ... what Alan iz really zaying iz that IBM, az a company of zmart people, haz taken a pro-active ztance for diverzity, ezpecially with rezpect to hardware and zoftware zyztemz ... -- R; On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 02/14/2008 at 11:15

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 14, 2008, at 12:32 PM, David Boyes wrote: I suspect it will also come in pink. Maybe there will be a high maintenance model. Cream. Just “cream”. At least one of you knows the story. I NEED MORE COUGH SYRUP, STAT! Adam

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread RPN01
On 2/14/08 10:37 AM, Adam Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread David Boyes
Zo ... what Alan iz really zaying iz that IBM, az a company of zmart people, haz taken a pro-active ztance for diverzity, ezpecially with rezpect to hardware and zoftware zyztemz ... -- R; Viewing of Dr. Strangelove, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb is now obligatory.

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Stephen Buckles
@listserv.uark.edu cc Subject Re: Any Rumors? On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. Damnit, I'm sick of this chauvenistic crap! Isn't there one female in Pougkeepsie?? For crying out loud, why can't it be a z/HER or a z/ SHE for once

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Neale Ferguson
But they've taken the capacity-on-demand concept to the next level: when ever the systems get stressed new processing units (pus) break out to meet the demand. On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:56 -0600, Stephen Buckles wrote: Who would want to work on a z/IT? That sounds like it should be in your

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Mark Pace
jeez. Getting a little over the top. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Neale Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they've taken the capacity-on-demand concept to the next level: when ever the systems get stressed new processing units (pus) break out to meet the demand. On Thu,

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Neale Ferguson
Yes, but I believe the SRDL/SLDL instructions have been removed as there were problems with the new processors getting a bit on the side. On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 11:48 -0800, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: OTOH, two of them coupled together in a parallel sysplex can be really hot.

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Huegel, Thomas
PROTECTED] Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:53 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? And it will get jealous if you upgrade to a better model. And don't even THINK about outsourcing some of your work to a timesharing service while you have one

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? And don't forget those anniversaries. You know, the delivery date, the first z/VM IPL, the first z/OS crash.and on and on and on... That is what makes the younger models so attractive, not so many things to remember. -Original Message

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Peter . Webb
So Mary Anne, Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet? Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neale Ferguson Sent: February 14, 2008 14:52 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? Yes, but I believe

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Do you regret getting us started on this tangent yet? Uh, yes. Though most of these have been very entertaining. :) MA

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-14 Thread Marcy Cortes
this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:27 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Any Rumors? Do you regret

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread McKown, John
No, but there is a weird post on IBM-MAIN where a person says that the D M=CPU on his z9 shows a device type of 2097 (not 2096 or 2094). It shows a z/HE as the CPC NAME. He posted that the D M=CPU showed: quote D M=CPU IEE174I 02.14.36 DISPLAY M 160 PROCESSOR STATUS ID CPU SERIAL 00 + *02097

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread RPN01
The z10? On 2/13/08 2:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement?

Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement?

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:31 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Huegel, Thomas wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement? It'll be locked to ATT and every time it gets a firmware upgrade it'll brick itself if it's been unlocked. Oh, sorry. That's the iPhone, isn't it?

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Mike Walter
System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Any Rumors? Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement? The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Or would that be a zA? Steve G. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 3:44 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any Rumors? The z10? On 2/13/08 2:36 PM, Huegel

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Ron Schmiedge
The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. On 2/13/08, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but there is a weird post on IBM-MAIN where a person says that the D M=CPU on his z9 shows a device type of 2097 (not 2096 or

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Jim Elliott
The IBM System z9 announcement dated April 27th 2006 says a z9 BC model S07 has a processor machine type of 2097. Ron: Huh? The z9 BC (R07 or S07) are both machine type 2096. Jim

Re: Any Rumors?

2008-02-13 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:36 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard any good rumors about IBM's next z series (mainframe) announcement? Why depend on rumors? See what IBM's CFO has to say about it in public: