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Maybe things don't change all that much.
Tom
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Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the other hand, many companies have their heads buried
Alan Ackerman wrote:
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/januaryfebruary08/features/1896
3p3
.aspx said:
The typical organization
might have one technician for every two or three
users.
Hunh? When was this ever true?
Most MVS sites?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot)
Minor typo.
If year 1970 insert hundred before users, else insert thousand.
In context, it's obvious that the author assumes that the only users our
glass house mainframes supported were on 3270's. (Side bets that Mr. Wallis
is old enough to have ever _seen_ a 3270, anyone?)
-Chip-
On
Alan,
Not in my life time anyway.
Bill Munson
VM System Programmer
Office of Information Technology
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(609) 984-4065
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Alan Ackerman wrote:
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/januaryfebruary08/features/18963p3
.aspx said:
You know, I've been thinking about this and I just don't think I buy this
article, or this hoopla that we've heard for several years about the aging
mainframer and how to replace them and how scarce they are. I just don't see
that many job openings for MVS or VM. And I sure don't see skyrocketing
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:20 AM
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You know, I've been thinking about this and I just don't think I buy
this article
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:19:42AM -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
You know, I've been thinking about this and I just don't think I buy this
article, or this hoopla that we've heard for several years about the aging
mainframer and how to replace them and how scarce they are. I just don't see
Have a very close friend out of work, several others struggling to make a
living freelancing.
All could write an assembler program while attending a soccer match and the
code would be PERFECT. Years and years of mainframe experience. The guy
completely out of work has no prospects in sight, the
the sun doesn't shine.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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. Your memory is still good
Regards,
Richard Schuh
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,
Richard Schuh
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Operating System
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Yes, Salaries would be rising, so would job opennings. I blame
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/januaryfebruary08/features/18963p3
.aspx said:
The typical organization
might have one technician for every two or three users.
Hunh? When was this ever true?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Alan Ackerman
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The typical organization
might have one technician for every two or three users.
Hunh? When was this ever true?
In their dreams... unless you consider the gang of advanced Windows
users to be their own engineers
When I look at it, Page 3 is the same as Page 1. Is something missing??
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When I look at it, Page 3 is the same as Page 1. Is something
missing??
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:47:16 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I look at it, Page 3 is the same as Page 1. Is something missing?
?
The OP gave a link to Page 3. You followed the link to page 2, and from
there to page 3 again.
Either click the link for Page 1 or change the tail of URL to
Or... print the article. It worked for me the same day it was mentioned
on the list.
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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Interesting article
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/januaryfebruary08/features/18963p3
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In Search of Mainframe Engineers
New technologies point to the future of mainframe computing
January | February 2008 | by Ivan Wallis and Byron Rashed
It may seem as if few people want to
Got a 404 when I tired to look
Mace
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Behalf Of Bob Heerdink
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Interesting article
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Behalf Of Bob Heerdink
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:57 PM
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Subject: Article: In Search of Mainframe Engineers
Interesting article
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In Search of Mainframe Engineers
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: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:57 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Article: In Search of Mainframe Engineers
Interesting article
http://www.ibmsystemsmag.com/mainframe/januaryfebruary08/features/18963p
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In Search of Mainframe Engineers
New technologies point to the future
: Article: In Search of Mainframe Engineers
Try putting the link back together, it was split so the 3.aspx was
on a new line.
should end /18963p3.aspx
On 2/19/08, Macioce, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got a 404 when I tired to look
Mace
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Interesting article
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In Search of Mainframe Engineers
New
of Mainframe Engineers
Got a 404 when I tired to look
Mace
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