Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 12/14/2009 at 01:24 EST, Alan Ackerman alan.acker...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm sorry, Sir Alan, but there really were AP (Attached Processor) mode ls in which the base processor could do I/O and the attached processor could not. the IBM 3033 AP was one such model. See http://www

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-14 Thread Kris Buelens
it had. 2009/12/14 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com On Monday, 12/14/2009 at 01:24 EST, Alan Ackerman alan.acker...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm sorry, Sir Alan, but there really were AP (Attached Processor) mode ls in which the base processor could do I/O and the attached processor could

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-14 Thread Schuh, Richard
] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Base Processor? I'm sorry, Sir Alan, but there really were AP (Attached Processor) mode= ls in which the base processor could do I/O and the attached processor could not. the IBM

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-14 Thread Alan Altmark
couldn't perform I/O; on an MP, both could perform I/O, but each only to the channels it had. This Alan was wrong and I yield the field. Indeed, I was conflating AP and MP. Yes, in AP, there was only one channel set (16 channels) and it belonged the base processor. (At the time, processor

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-11 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 07:14:08PM -0700,Scott Rohling Wrote: } ahem .. as long as n = 2 :-) } } Scott } } On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: } } Hats off to Alan. He has, again, come through with a sensible answer, and a } bit of history. Our

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-11 Thread Scott Rohling
You got me... I need to read more carefully. Cheers - Scott On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote: On: Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 07:14:08PM -0700,Scott Rohling Wrote: } ahem .. as long as n = 2 :-) } } Scott } } On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:43 PM,

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Base Processor? ahem .. as long as n = 2 :-) Scott On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.commailto:rsc...@visa.com wrote: Hats off to Alan. He has, again, come through with a sensible answer, and a bit of history. Our MVS guys confirmed

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
Of Scott Rohling Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Base Processor? ahem .. as long as n = 2 :-) Scott On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.commailto:rsc...@visa.com wrote: Hats off to Alan. He has, again, come

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-11 Thread Schuh, Richard
System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Base Processor? You got me... I need to read more carefully. Cheers - Scott On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Rich Greenberg ric

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-10 Thread Alan Altmark
it really make any difference in this environment. In terms of real processors, at one time the base processor had to do the I/O. I do not believe that is true any more. Am I correct? and when did that stop being the case? The base CPU is the first CPU that is defined to your virtual machine. What

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-10 Thread Schuh, Richard
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Base Processor? On Wednesday, 12/09/2009 at 08:20 EST, Don W. thisus...@yahoo.com wrote: When

Re: Base Processor?

2009-12-10 Thread Scott Rohling
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Base Processor? On Wednesday, 12/09/2009 at 08:20 EST, Don W. thisus...@yahoo.com wrote: When you set up the directory entry for a z/OS guest with multiple virtual CPU's (e.g. CPU 00, CPU 01) and you QUERY CPUS, CPU 00 shows as BASE. What

Base Processor?

2009-12-09 Thread Don W.
, at one t ime the base processor had to do the I/O. I do not believe that is true any more. Am I correct? and when did that stop being the case?