Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-04 Thread Barton Robinson
Of Barton Robinson Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing Ok here's some heresy that I've presented to IBM and maybe was communicated to their sales folks. From a capacity planning and service level perspective

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-04 Thread Schuh, Richard
Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing If you build a response time model

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/03/2009 at 09:34 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: I would expect that some would challenge your conclusion based on the idea that the MP effect does not even appear unless you are running at or near capacity. If I have two cpus or IFLs and 1.1 cpu's worth of demand,

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-04 Thread Rick Giz
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing Maybe the question is not relevant to you, but it is to us. Since our guests on the big z/VM system are TPF systems

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-04 Thread Schuh, Richard
testing, too. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Giz Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:51 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing Might

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-03 Thread Robert J Brenneman
There is most definitely a MP factor with IFLs, just like there is with CPs, and just like there is with every other SMP architecture that exists today. There is no significant difference between an IFL and a ***full speed*** CP when it comes to the MP effect and capacity planning. -- Jay

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-03 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Robert J Brenneman bren...@gmail.com wrote: There is most definitely a MP factor with IFLs, just like there is with CPs, and just like there is with every other SMP architecture that exists today. There is no significant difference between an IFL and a ***full

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-03 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Robert J Brenneman bren...@gmail.com wrote: There is most definitely a MP factor with IFLs, just like

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-03 Thread Barton Robinson
Ok here's some heresy that I've presented to IBM and maybe was communicated to their sales folks. From a capacity planning and service level perspective, adding a CPU gives you MORE than 100%, not less than. Really, BUT ONLY if you actually care about service levels. From a service level

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
Statements From Marketing Ok here's some heresy that I've presented to IBM and maybe was communicated to their sales folks. From a capacity planning and service level perspective, adding a CPU gives you MORE than 100%, not less than. Really, BUT ONLY if you actually care about service levels

Re: Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-03 Thread Jack Woehr
Dean, David (I/S) wrote: What is the difference between a computer salesman and a used car salesman? The car salesman knows when he's lying. You know about the woman who on the honeymoon evening of her fourth marriage said, Be gentle with me, I'm a virgin. How can that be? asked her groom,

Correcting Statements From Marketing

2009-02-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
This got no response when posted under a different topic: Yikes, We have someone from IBM Marketing now making the statement, I have confirmed...no MP factor with IFLs. That is the entire statement, all of the dots included. I did not replace anything with ellipses. Somehow, that does not