Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-10 Thread RPN01
I don¹t believe this will work. Looking at their web site, they don¹t acknowledge that the product runs on anything but Intel. If they had installs for it on other platforms, any other platforms, you¹d think they¹d be proud enough to say so -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~.

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks David, good explanation. David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can, and did, install the NoMachine server code on a Suse machine (not in z/VM Linux machine) and the client on a Windows machine and I'm wondering this; if the Server code runs in a Suse machine

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread David Boyes
I can, and did, install the NoMachine server code on a Suse machine (not in z/VM Linux machine) and the client on a Windows machine and I'm wondering this; if the Server code runs in a Suse machine and the Suse machine happens to be a z/VM guest, it should work...right? Not necessarily. If th

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks every one for your replies. Not to bet this to death but... I can, and did, install the NoMachine server code on a Suse machine (not in z/VM Linux machine) and the client on a Windows machine and I'm wondering this; if the Server code runs in a Suse machine and the Suse machine happens t

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Gentry, Stephen
what kind of box/IFL your running. Steve G. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest Once a z/VM Linux

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread McBride, Catherine
We had to bother (with SSL) due to a combination of connectivity/app requirements. But you verbalized everything a lot better than I could have. Thanks. Adam Thornton wrote: Linux can most certainly support secure Telnet, whether kerberized, TLS-negotiated, or SSL-wrapped implicit. Grant

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Thornton
On Apr 9, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Such broad statements! *Unsecured* telnet sessions are not secure, and Linux has not added support for secure telnet (as we have in z/OS and z/VM). Of course, there's no real need for it on Linux since ssh is perfectly reasonable alternative

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess my real question is about using the NoMachine client/server programs > to access a z/VM Linux guest...Anyone using NoMachine? As I understand the configuration, this would mean running one or more graphical end-us

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/09/2008 at 12:29 EDT, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that telnet is not secure. Unless your application or user has a specific > need for telnet, TURN IT OFF. Such broad statements! *Unsecured* telnet sessions are not secure, and Linux has not added support for secure

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread McBride, Catherine
We're not familiar with that one nor using it at any of our locations. Sounds interesting though. Howard Rifkin wrote: I guess my real question is about using the NoMachine client/server programs to access a z/VM Linux guest...Anyone using NoMachine? Thanks

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread RPN01
In looking at their website, at least the free version is i386 / x86_64 / Solaris specific. I see nothing that would imply that they have an install that would run on zSeries. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread RPN01
Note that telnet is not secure. Unless your application or user has a specific need for telnet, TURN IT OFF. Use ssh instead. It provides the same style of access plus a lot more features, and is secure, so your passwords aren¹t flying across the intra / internet as open text. Add to this X11 forw

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Howard Rifkind
IL PROTECTED] Behalf Of HowardRifkind Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:03 AM To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Getting to a VM/LinuxGuest Once a z/VM Linux guest is defined and the Linuxoperating system is installed and initial users such as a root user and adminuser add

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks Rich, Has anyone heard of the 'NoMachine' client/server package? Installed on the Linux server (z/VM guest side) and the client on lets say a Windows machine could you still get the the z/VM guest with TCP/IP/ I'm using NoMachine on a few standalone Linux boxes and and people are access

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread David Boyes
Once a z/VM Linux guest is defined and the Linux operating system is installed and initial users such as a root user and admin user added to the system what would be the most common way of accessing the Linux guest? Ssh over the network is the accepted method. Could you dial into the Linux

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
We use PUTTY. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread McBride, Catherine
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest Once a z/VM Linux guest is defined and the Linux operating system is installed an

Re: Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Rich Smrcina
For administrative tasks, ssh. For regular user access, that would depend upon the application. In some cases they're web based (Websphere, SAP). In some cases there is a specific client available (Domino). In other cases they're sockets based and the users may or may not know (or care) t

Getting to a VM/Linux Guest

2008-04-09 Thread Howard Rifkind
Once a z/VM Linux guest is defined and the Linux operating system is installed and initial users such as a root user and admin user added to the system what would be the most common way of accessing the Linux guest? Could you dial into the Linux guest? Is TCP/IP'ing to the guest the best way