Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-13 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
Les, I was referring to the ptf VM63746 Thanks Alain That is the DFSMS/VM RMS APAR that allows for MULTIUSER attach support. This will allow you to use request an RMS operation without having the device detached from another user ID. For example, you can request a library mount for a user ID

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Pace
On 3/13/07, Les Geer (607-429-3580) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was referring to the ptf VM63746 That is the DFSMS/VM RMS APAR that allows for MULTIUSER attach support. This will allow you to use request an RMS operation without having the device detached from another user ID. For example,

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Imler, Steven J
] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:02 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to share tape drives Alan, I was looking that direction too. Since I a not a hard Control

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Alain Benveniste
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:02 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to share tape drives Alan, I was looking that direction too. Since I

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
You're right JR, I tested this, this morning and I can't get any info. You also probably means there is no way to obtain the info I need... But that generates an other question : What Control Blocks dfsmsrm uses to send back the info we can see with the cmd : dfsmsrm q lib dev (assign Do

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Alain Benveniste
Les, Does RMS would be able to know which tape drive is online on a MVS LPAR ? The fact is when a tape is mounted on MVS I know enough, with this cmd, which host has the drive but not when it is sleeping; just online but not working. Regards Alain You're right JR, I tested this, this morning

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Imler, Steven J
Engineer Tel: +1 703 708 3479 Fax: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 09:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to share tape drives You're

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Alain Benveniste
708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 09:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to share tape drives You're right JR, I tested

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
: +1 703 708 3267 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:02 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to share tape drives Alan, I

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Alain Benveniste
Les, I was referring to the ptf VM63746 Thanks Alain

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-12 Thread Alain Benveniste
Jr, Finally, your are the one for who these threads will bring a benefit. :) Thanks for all Alain

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 03/11/2007 at 05:12 EST, Alain Benveniste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that the best would be to buy a product but my client is deaf on this kind of purpose. Alain, in my opinion it will cost you a lot of time and effort to research, build and support (!) your own solution and

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Alain Benveniste
The context: I learnt few time ago that my client wanted to migrate VM applications to Unix. 1 problem was the price to do the work : 5 years of VM maintenance. My idea is that he is in a situation were he would like to see VM doing works really important to not stop using it. Ex : A main task

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Imler, Steven J
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to share tape drives The context: I learnt few time ago that my client wanted to migrate VM applications to= Unix. 1 problem was the price to do the work : 5 years of VM maintenance.= My idea is that he is in a situation were he would like to see VM doing

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Alain Benveniste
Jr, We have 21 LPARs in production, 14 under VM in D/R. Alain

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 3/11/07, Alain Benveniste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have 21 LPARs in production, 14 under VM in D/R. So how do your 21 LPARs in production deal with the tape drives. You don't have a dedicated set for each LPAR, I suppose? Wouldn't you just want to imitate that during a disaster recovery

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Alain Benveniste
Rob, You're right : no tape drives are dedicated into production, idem in D/R. All tape drives are elligible to be acceded by any parttion. Alain

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 03/11/2007 at 09:03 EST, Alain Benveniste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this time I just want to compare the tool we have to share tapes with how VM could do the same work. I didn't mentionned an important thing. I am not thinking to developp what CA-MIM or other products do but

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Imler, Steven J
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 07:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How to share tape drives On Sunday, 03/11/2007 at 09:03 EST, Alain Benveniste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this time I just want to compare the tool we have to share tapes

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-11 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 03/11/2007 at 07:56 AST, Imler, Steven J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if he has 21 LPARs running z/OS ... how would that help? Just a thought ... maybe I'm missing something? Maybe I misunderstood, too, but I thought Alain (is that a great name, or what?) was looking at a future

How to share tape drives

2007-03-10 Thread Alain Benveniste
I read a similar discussion on the mailing list about assign. We don't have any tools to share tapes between 1 VM 20 MVS. Something has been developped in the past which is not really up-to-date. We remarked it needs too much CPU to do its work. I project to use our VM to be THE platform to

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-10 Thread Imler, Steven J
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 03:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: How to share tape drives I read a similar discussion on the mailing list about assign. We don't have any tools to share tapes between 1 VM

Re: How to share tape drives

2007-03-10 Thread Dennis Schaffer
Alain, At the risk of misinterpreting what you're asking, I have to caution you that because you CAN share tape drives between MVS systems with the multiuser option, it doesn't mean you SHOULD (at least, using native facilities). HELP for the CP ATTACH MULTIUSER option says The MULTIUSER