Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-02-01 Thread Mike Walter
z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 01/31/2007 05:25 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ICKDSF Release 16 On 1/31/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find lots of information about data

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-02-01 Thread Lee Stewart
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: ICKDSF Release 16 On 1/31/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find lots of information about data security erase for tapes, but not for disks. So, that leaves him the option to DDR from disk to tape, and then security

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-02-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
: ICKDSF Release 16 On 1/31/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find lots of information about data security erase for tapes, but not for disks. So, that leaves him the option to DDR from disk to tape, and then security erase those tapes. ;-) Rob

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-02-01 Thread pfa
: ICKDSF Release 16 But Rob, that leaves the data still on disk. What you need to do is DDR the disks to tape, then data security erase the tapes, and then obviously -- restore the erased tapes to the disk. Voila - no more data on disk! Of course you'd need to restore from the data security

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Ed Zell
We are in the process of 'decommissioning' our mainframe platform (MP3000 runing v/VM 3.1). We formatted all our internal and external DASD (3380s and 3390s) using ICKDSF R16 with the following command: I found this in a recent post by searching the archives at:

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Dave Reinken
something like FDRERASE, which is certified to meet those specifications. Original Message Subject: ICKDSF Release 16 From: Cliff Brenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, January 31, 2007 4:03 pm To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Hi Folks, We are in the process

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Schuh, Richard
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Zell Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ICKDSF Release 16 We are in the process of 'decommissioning' our mainframe platform (MP3000 runing v/VM 3.1). We

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Cliff Brenner
is certified to meet those specifications. Original Message Subject: ICKDSF Release 16 From: Cliff Brenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, January 31, 2007 4:03 pm To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Hi Folks, We are in the process of 'decommissioning' our mainframe

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Thomas Kern
There are at least two potential problems with using FDRERASE. The first is that it REQUIRES a z/OS (maybe OS/390) operating system to run it. This i s not too much of a problem at a Disaster Recovery vendor site but not easy when you are decommissioning your only mainframe. The second problem

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Judson West
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:37 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ICKDSF Release 16 I think it varies the pattern for each cycle. IIRC (memories from the 'nam days) the number of cycles had to be at least 8 for any magnetic media that had

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Aria Bamdad
This may sound crazy but if you really have to meet DOD standards, and if your equipment is old and has no real value, it may be cheaper and faster to remove the disks out of the system and have them destroyed by a certified company. On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:03:56 -0500 Cliff Brenner said: Hi

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Ed Zell
Thanks for your reply. I received a message from Ed Zell re: the ICKDSF TRKFMT command, which allows for an overwrite of special patterns Cliff, Just to be complete, I was quoting from a previous post that I found in the archives that mentioned ICKDSF TRKFMT. I have no experience

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 01/31/2007 at 03:57 CST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at SAE? It has a stand-alone ERASE capability. You can even IPL it off of the DVD in the HMC! Or DASD or Tape. I find such products ... interesting. If you look at the S/390 Command Reference for ESS

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Cliff Brenner
Hi Ed, I reviewed the TRKFMT parameters you provided in the ICKDSF R16 manual to confirm their function. Thanks to all who have replied to me so far. Please note I no longer have an operating system, so only a standalone utility like ICKDSF would benefit me at this point. Cliff

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Schuh, Richard
Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ICKDSF Release 16 On Wednesday, 01/31/2007 at 03:57 CST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked

Re: ICKDSF Release 16

2007-01-31 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 1/31/07, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find lots of information about data security erase for tapes, but not for disks. So, that leaves him the option to DDR from disk to tape, and then security erase those tapes. ;-) Rob