Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-27 Thread Kim Goldenberg
Brian France wrote: Folks, I've done about a 45 minute search and I think my answer is that I'd have to run multiple VM's per frame but wanted to ensure I was right. My management wants to run some product called HATS on our VM/MFL world. We recently upgraded from our z/890's with 1 IFL ea

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-23 Thread David Boyes
We're already there. We have two z9BC's with a CP each for z/OS and 2 IFL's each. We had two z/890s with only IFL each and we have production linux servers on one vm system on one frame and a test system on the other. Yes to what I believe management wants to do here is run HATS for 3270 screen

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-23 Thread Kris Buelens
Technically: when you define a Linux virtual machine, you define how many processors it can see. The default is only 1. Two statements in the CP directory are important here: 1. MACHINE, defines how many virtual processors the virtual machine can define. Example: MACHINE ESA 4 m

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-23 Thread Brian France
Bill, THANX for the info!!! My problem is that I really don't understand the parts of the system to clone. ie - just which minidisks do what. AND in the time frame it looks like I'm being given, I doubt I could come to that understanding. By the way, you said you were running HATs on I t

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-23 Thread Brian France
more discussion. THANX to all who have discussed this Hans Rempel -- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: November 21, 2007 2:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY... Tom, Yes, I ha

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Hans Rempel
ERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY... Tom, Yes, I have forwarded Malcoms' info and links to management to look at. We are still way to new to VM to consider what I know as qualified but alas, I am the systems programmer for better or worse. SO, I must ask, are you statin

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Tom Duerbusch
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Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Bill Munson
Brian, What Tom is talking about is SERVICE one z/VM system then clone only the parts that are needed. (I use DDR with the reorder option - simple) example here is: ZVTRES, ZVTSP1, ZVTPG1, ZVTS01, ZVTS02, ZVTS03 as provided at INSTALL time and Serviced when needed. our LINUX images have ZL

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Brian France
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Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Tom Duerbusch
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Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Brian France
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Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Brian France
At 11:36 AM 11/21/2007, you wrote: >From a cost perspective, the software companines will charge you for the number of IFL engines you have on a box in which you run the software. So if you are running HATS on a single IFL box, you get charged for one copy. If you run HATS on your dual IFL box

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread David Boyes
I guess the question that pops into my mind is what are you really trying to do here? Set this beast up so that it can't use any more than one physical CPU worth of resources at any given time, or reserve one full CPU worth of horsepower for this beast (given it's WAS, you may end up doing this, un

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Malcolm Beattie
Tom Duerbusch writes: > >From a cost perspective, the software companines will charge you for the > >number of IFL engines you have on a box in which you run the software. > > So if you are running HATS on a single IFL box, you get charged for one copy. > If you run HATS on your dual IFL box, y

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Bill Munson
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Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Tom Duerbusch
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Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread McKown, John
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Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Peter . Webb
IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY... Correct. USER HATS MACHINE ESA 1 ... other stuff will define a z/VM guest called HATS which only has a single CPU assigned to it. ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/hcsg0b20/3.2. 35

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Tom Duerbusch
>From a cost perspective, the software companines will charge you for the >number of IFL engines you have on a box in which you run the software. So if you are running HATS on a single IFL box, you get charged for one copy. If you run HATS on your dual IFL box, you get charged for two copies.

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread McKown, John
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY... John, Yes, HATS run on MainFrameLinux using WAS. So, do I understand you in that I can assign two IFL's to my VM, and

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Brian France
z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:00 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY... Folks, I've done about a 45 minute search and I think my answer is that I'd have to run multipl

Re: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread McKown, John
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:00 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY... Folks, I've done about a 45 minute search and I think my answer i

IFL's, VM, Suse, OH MY...

2007-11-21 Thread Brian France
Folks, I've done about a 45 minute search and I think my answer is that I'd have to run multiple VM's per frame but wanted to ensure I was right. My management wants to run some product called HATS on our VM/MFL world. We recently upgraded from our z/890's with 1 IFL each to z9BC's with 2