Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-27 Thread David Boyes
No, VM/VTAM doesn't do EE, but CommServer Linux (CSL) does. It will perform the APPN-over-IP encapsulation and supports CTC. I.e. VM/VTAM APPN over CTC to CSL then via EE to the PLU. (I couldn't resist all the abbreviations - sorry!) I lie in wait for the day when IBM announces Extended

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-27 Thread Steve Gentry
6.2 without a 3745? No, VM/VTAM doesn't do EE, but CommServer Linux (CSL) does. It will perform the APPN-over-IP encapsulation and supports CTC. I.e. VM/VTAM APPN over CTC to CSL then via EE to the PLU. (I couldn't resist all the abbreviations - sorry!) I lie in wait for the day when IBM

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-27 Thread Strasser, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] LU 6.2 without a 3745? Isnt the CTC between VM/VTAM and MVS a PU4/5? Itll burn CPU like crazy compared to doing

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-27 Thread Scott Ray
Title: Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745? Wasn't MVS in on this equation at some point? I thought I saw a reference to that.. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Alan AltmarkSent: Tue 6/27/2006 1:35 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745? On Monday, 06/26/2006

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-27 Thread David Boyes
Wasn't MVS in on this equation at some point?  I thought I saw a reference to that.. Yes, as one of the endpoints, but that system isn't the problem, it's the other end.

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-27 Thread David Boyes
I read up on the Communications Server for Linux, and it sounds pretty sweet. Perhaps I can sell that to the SNA network folks to ease the migration off the 3745s. ;) It is. It's exactly the kind of thing that Linux on zSeries appliances were meant to do. Also read up on Communications

LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-26 Thread Strasser, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to an MVS application over LU 6.2., and I was told For LU 6.2 sessions, there is no alternatives unless you have a PU 4/5. It frankly seems very unlikely that we are just SOL on LU 6.2 without a 3745. What do we need to make this work? Thanks much, Victor Victor Strasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] VM

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-26 Thread David Boyes
] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: LU 6.2 without a 3745? My SNA networking folks tell me that all our 3745s are going away because the hardware is going out of support. We plan to use CTCs to connect VM/VTAM to an MVS system to route RJE, and most

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-26 Thread Alan Altmark
very unlikely that we are just SOL on LU 6.2 without a 3745. What do we need to make this work? The CTC is sufficient (PU 5). For connections beyond CTC range, then you can set up an APPN (vs. subarea) network that can use PU 2.1 to carry LU 6.2. APPN connections can be carried over an IP

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-26 Thread Scott Ray
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: LU 6.2 without a 3745? My SNA networking folks tell me that all our 3745s are going away because the hardware is going out of support. We plan to use CTCs to connect VM/VTAM to an MVS system to route RJE, and most

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-26 Thread David Boyes
Nomine Associates From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Ray Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 5:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745? Have you check into Enterprise Extender or CCL (Communications Controller

Re: LU 6.2 without a 3745?

2006-06-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 06/26/2006 at 05:46 AST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VM/VTAM doesn?t do EE, and CCL would either a) burn CPU on the std engine side, or b) burn CPU on an IFL, which we don?t know if he has (and is still $125K). In either case (a or b), those CPU cycles are pretty pricy.