Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-30 Thread Horlick, Michael
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: January 29, 2009 3:44 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time On Thursday, 01/29/2009 at 02:26 EST, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: I hardcap DEV and QUALITY

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-30 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Hi Mike, We are not using VMRM so I cannot comment. We have multiple VSEs under VM and once we turned all the knobs we could in VM to help VSE, surprise, surprise, it took it all. So we put a limithard on the guest to make it play nicer with the rest of us all. I know the VSE performance people

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-29 Thread Horlick, Michael
System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: January 28, 2009 2:39 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time On Wednesday, 01/28/2009 at 02:09 EST, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: I agree that when

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 01/29/2009 at 02:26 EST, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: I hardcap DEV and QUALITY to ABS 10% when CPU = 80% and to ABS 5% when CPU = 90% How would this map to VMRM? Does VMRM issue SET SHARE commands? Much overhead for this product? Yes, VMRM issues SET SHARE

Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Horlick, Michael
Greetings, Here is the situation. We are running z/VM 5.2 and 5 z/VSE 4.1.0 guest systems (3 production, 2 development machines) on an IBM 2066 (z800). In 2 of these VSEs there is a heavy duty CICS/TS system running. We use SET SHARE ABS to give them a minimum target of CPU, no limits,

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Barton Robinson
TCPIP in z/VM has metrics that can be used to show network response time. z/VM provides transaction data. As a performance monitor that analyzes both, ESAMON will cost you less than 1% of a cpu. Could probably do what you want with just zMON at $1200/month. Horlick, Michael wrote:

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Huegel, Thomas
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time Greetings, Here is the situation. We are running z/VM 5.2 and 5 z/VSE 4.1.0 guest systems (3 production, 2 development machines) on an IBM 2066 (z800). In 2 of these VSEs there is a heavy duty CICS

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Horlick, Michael
immediate (and of course, free ;)) Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: January 28, 2009 11:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Horlick, Michael
: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time Have you tried setting up VMRMSVM to monitor and adjust (via SET SHARE) on your system? I think it works pretty good for me. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Barton Robinson
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: January 28, 2009 11:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time TCPIP in z/VM has metrics that can be used to show network response time. z/VM provides transaction data

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Horlick, Michael
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: January 28, 2009 11:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time TCPIP in z/VM has metrics that can

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 01/28/2009 at 11:27 EST, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: I?m toying with creating a REXX EXEC which uses RXLDEV to create a logical 3270 session and have the EXEC basically ?press? the ENTER key say every 30 seconds. I?m hoping this will mimic what a real

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Hi Mike, Do you give the VM VTAM userid any sort of preference? We've given VTAM a SHARE ABS 3%. Ron On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: Greetings, Here is the situation. We are running z/VM 5.2 and 5 z/VSE 4.1.0 guest systems (3

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Horlick, Michael
slow for everyone (I have SHARE TCPIP 3000 for TCPIP). Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge Sent: January 28, 2009 1:21 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Horlick, Michael
: January 28, 2009 12:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time On Wednesday, 01/28/2009 at 11:27 EST, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: I?m toying with creating a REXX EXEC which uses RXLDEV to create a logical 3270

Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

2009-01-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 01/28/2009 at 02:09 EST, Horlick, Michael michael.horl...@cgi.com wrote: I agree that when the system slows down my app will slow down but since maybe there are fewer instructions to perform (as opposed to doing a CP Q TIME and REXX processing my exec statements) maybe it would