Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 09/22/2008 at 01:21 EDT, Rick Troth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Alan Altmark wrote: > > I'm not sure what you're getting at, Glen, but it has been alleged that > > some systems do NOT convert LF to CRLF on ASCII/TEXT mode transmissions. > > Looking at Debian's ft

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-22 Thread Rick Troth
> On Monday, 09/22/2008 at 02:10 EDT, gah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In text mode (also called ASCII mode) the form on the TCP > > stream is CRLF terminated. It is the responsibility of > > both client and server to convert from native text form > > to that form. Correct. (Haven't read the RF

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-22 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Alan Altmark wrote: > I'm not sure what you're getting at, Glen, but it has been alleged that > some systems do NOT convert LF to CRLF on ASCII/TEXT mode transmissions. > Looking at Debian's ftp client and vsftpd, it would appear they do the > right thing, but it would be g

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 09/22/2008 at 02:10 EDT, gah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The defect exists in the ftp client, not the servers. > > In text mode (also called ASCII mode) the form on the TCP > stream is CRLF terminated. It is the responsibility of > both client and server to convert from native text

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-21 Thread gah
Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday, 09/19/2008 at 04:46 EDT, John McKown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: See previous message about the vsftpd server not doing this "munging" The defect exists in the ftp client, not the servers. In text mode (also called ASCII mode) the form on

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-21 Thread Alan Ackerman
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:51:08 -0400, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >On Friday, 09/19/2008 at 04:46 EDT, John McKown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot e: > >> See previous message about the vsftpd server not doing this "munging" >(as >> he calls it) by default. > >The defect exists in the ftp clie

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/19/2008 at 04:46 EDT, John McKown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See previous message about the vsftpd server not doing this "munging" (as > he calls it) by default. The defect exists in the ftp client, not the servers. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Hughes, Jim
Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of John McKown =>Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:43 PM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Question about FTP to z/VM => =>On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Hughes, Jim wrote: => =>> Time out. Dog on the field. =>>

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Edward M Martin
r 19, 2008 4:25 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about FTP to z/VM On Friday, 09/19/2008 at 04:09 EDT, Edward M Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That takes me to the manuals. I have the TCP/IP USERS Guide online > here. > Could you be a bit more specific? Is

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread David Boyes
>> Issue the ASCII command before transferring it on the sending side. That >> should force LF->CR/LF conversion (the FTP spec requires CR/LF on the wire). >> Most Unix FTP clients default to binary mode these days, which is why you >> get the raw LF. > > See previous message about the vsftpd ser

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, David Boyes wrote: > Issue the ASCII command before transferring it on the sending side. That > should force LF->CR/LF conversion (the FTP spec requires CR/LF on the wire). > Most Unix FTP clients default to binary mode these days, which is why you > get the raw LF. See prev

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Hughes, Jim wrote: > Time out. Dog on the field. > > The RFC for ASCII transfer states all ASCII transfers are put on the > wire in ASCII text and carriage return/line feed are record delimiters. > Don't blame Z/VM if the sending system is not creating proper syntax. > > Car

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/19/2008 at 04:09 EDT, Edward M Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That takes me to the manuals. I have the TCP/IP USERS Guide online > here. > Could you be a bit more specific? Is there a site command that will > allow z/VM to recognize x'0A' as the end of record? No, there is no

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread David Boyes
Issue the ASCII command before transferring it on the sending side. That should force LF->CR/LF conversion (the FTP spec requires CR/LF on the wire). Most Unix FTP clients default to binary mode these days, which is why you get the raw LF. Question: are these fixed length records? If so, try SITE

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Hughes, Jim
f fun to do the impossible." (Walt Disney) =>-Original Message- =>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On =>Behalf Of Edward M Martin =>Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:48 PM =>To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU =>Subject: Re: Question about FTP to

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Edward M Martin
al Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Woehr Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:43 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about FTP to z/VM Edward M Martin wrote: > So I am getting that z/VM FTP can not handle a file without a CRL

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Jack Woehr
Edward M Martin wrote: So I am getting that z/VM FTP can not handle a file without a CRLF from Unix and get it in a readable format?!? http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zvm.v53.dmse6/hcsl8b20.htm -- Jack J. Woehr# "Self-delusion is http://

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Edward M Martin
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Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008, Edward M Martin wrote: > > > Hello Everyone, > > I have a UNIX file that is not using x'0D0A' to delimit the file. > > It is a print file (I believe) that only uses x'0A'. > What is the site command to z/VM to allow the end of record to be > only a x'0A'? > >

Re: Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Rich Greenberg
On: Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:29:59PM -0400,Edward M Martin Wrote: } I have a UNIX file that is not using x'0D0A' to delimit the file. } It is a print file (I believe) that only uses x'0A'. That normal for 'ix systems. Its a line feed } What is the site command to z/VM to allow the end

Question about FTP to z/VM

2008-09-19 Thread Edward M Martin
Hello Everyone, I have a UNIX file that is not using x'0D0A' to delimit the file. It is a print file (I believe) that only uses x'0A'. What is the site command to z/VM to allow the end of record to be only a x'0A'? On the z/VSE side we have a RECLF command.