Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-05-01 Thread Edward M. Martin
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DDR to a second level system My management were old-time MVS sysprogs who never get to see the output from those DASD subsystem initialization processes. They wanted to see output that

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread Stracka, James (GTS)
: Re: DDR to a second level system Hello Everyone, These are new DS6800 FICON attached dasd. All 3390 (mod 3 or mod 9). Never used. No residual data. But I am getting the feeling is that FORMAT once to ensure that everything is where it should be. Ed Martin 330-588-4723 ext 40441 -Original

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas Kern
My management were old-time MVS sysprogs who never get to see the output from those DASD subsystem initialization processes. They wanted to see output that said our data can be written. They liked warm, fuzzy feelings after being inundated by FUD during any purchase cycle. /Tom Kern On Wed, 30

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread Edward M. Martin
problems. I am getting a read on 'NO FORMAT' required. Ed Martin 330-588-4723 ext 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread Thomas Kern
Now that is different. Whenever I get NEW dasd, I always format all new volumes to make sure that data can be written before data must be written . /Tom Kern On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:16:23 -0400, Edward M. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >Hello Everyone, > >These are new DS6800 FICON attached

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread Edward M. Martin
Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:28 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DDR to a second level system On Wednesday, 04/30/2008 at 10:55 EDT, Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And you are aware that you o

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 04/30/2008 at 10:55 EDT, Tom Duerbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And you are aware that you only "need" to do a CP FORMAT for CP ONLY volumes. > Regular CMS volumes nor other guest volumes need CP FORMAT done. Doesn't hurt, > just a waste of time. It's only a waste if you alr

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread David Boyes
> I have some very new volumes that I am going create another second level > machine. > Do I always have to CP FORMAT the new volumes before I do a DDR ALL?  Or does > the DDR all > Copy all the formatting? You probably don't *have* to do the format first, but if this is the first time the vol

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Hi Ed DDR ALL is an image copy. The contents of all tracks and all cylinders are copied. And you are aware that you only "need" to do a CP FORMAT for CP ONLY volumes. Regular CMS volumes nor other guest volumes need CP FORMAT done. Doesn't hurt, just a waste of time. Tom Duerbusch THD Cons

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Pace
If you do a DDR DUMP ALL and then a DDR RESTORE it will take care of the formatting. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Edward M. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have some very new volumes that I am going create another second > level machine. > > Do I always h

Re: DDR to a second level system

2008-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ddr copies everything, you don't need to format the dasds. kind regards Franz Josef Pohlen Edward M. Martin schrieb: Hello Everyone, I have some very new volumes that I am going create another second level machine. Do I always have to CP FORMAT the new volumes before I do a DDR AL