Re: Stand Alone Dump

2009-07-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/10/2009 at 12:58 EDT, "Wandschneider, Scott" wrote: > Does anyone have a working procedure for an MVS system, running under VM, that > they are willing to share. The dump must be to DASD. It's pretty much the same procedure. Use the steps outlined in Procedure A of chapter 4

Stand Alone Dump

2009-07-10 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
List Members, Below is the procedure we successfully use to create a stand-alone dump of a hung or misbehaving VSE guest machine. Does anyone have a working procedure for an MVS system, running under VM, that they are willing to share. The dump must be to DASD. Thanks in advance. 1. Log

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
. IBM ships an iPod with ever z9 for sites to use if they ever need to send back a stand alone dump, say. Another example is the very high capacity LTO type tape drives. DJ Jon Brock wrote: It isn't just thumb drives. Google for "pod-slurping." Jon Just a short note to let fol

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Jon Brock
It isn't just thumb drives. Google for "pod-slurping." Jon Just a short note to let folks on this list that a lot of I.T. security guys are beginning to view USB thumb drives as a security exposure. Many desktop PCs now have USB port located on the front of their cases, making it fairly un

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
Just a short note to let folks on this list that a lot of I.T. security guys are beginning to view USB thumb drives as a security exposure. Many desktop PCs now have USB port located on the front of their cases, making it fairly unobtrusive to plug a thumb drive in, and walk out with a hard dis

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread David Boyes
> O. that's gonna be a pretty pricey USB thumb drive. Our z/OS guys > FTP to IBM their S/A z/OS dumps which terse down to about 40G (from > 100,000 cylinders on 3390 DASD). Do they even make 40G thumb drives? Do > you want to send one to IBM? :-) On the other hand, USB 2 to SATA/PATA carri

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk O. that's gonna be a pretty pricey USB thumb drive. Our

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:42 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk > > > O. that's gonna be

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Walter
m" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk > -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:17 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:17 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk > > > > Seems like it ought t

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
Seems like it ought to be a function of the LPAR to dump memory contents somewhere (all machines have LPAR now and there's intelligence there, right). Maybe on the hard drive of that z9 :) Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the ad

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Mike Walter
n xft xfm , '| INSIDE /ExplainBeginUnknown/ /ExplainEndUnknown/' , '| CONSOLE' End /* Select */ Call Exit 0 /* ExplainBeginHALINVA1: S/A Dump procedures for: VMCMS system (HALINVA1) There is no SADUMP (StandAlone Dump) command for VM. If the system is res

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>Another good reason to do 3xxx tape emulation over SCSI tape, especially >as real storage sizes continue to rise. There really might be a machine >with 40G of real storage these days, and it would be really nice to be >able to take SA dumps to 200G LTO tapes. It'll probably be a while >before we s

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread David Boyes
> Good point - all of ours are either channel extended into 3494 ATL or > local in a STK SILO. It's not like you can just pop a tape in. Another good reason to do 3xxx tape emulation over SCSI tape, especially as real storage sizes continue to rise. There really might be a machine with 40G of rea

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread George Haddad
t: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 09:56 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Stand Alone Dump to Disk I'm not sure when we really need a VM stand-alone dump. Usually a PSW restaret will get us a dump. How often do you use stand-alone dumps?

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:11 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Stand Alone Dump to Disk A bigger issue than keeping tape addresses current is the size of dumps and number of tapes

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
V.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk A bigger issue than keeping tape addresses current is the size of dumps and number of tapes required. Our high-capacity tape drives (STK 9840's) are all in silos. Our system with the largest real storage doesn't have 9840's availa

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 09:56 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Stand Alone Dump to Disk We were asked to update our stand-alone dump procedures. We don't use stand-alone dump very often, and the list of tape drives to use had gotte n badly out of date. We discovered

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Schuh, Richard
The only use made of VM's stand-alone dump that I can recall in my 33 years with VM was to take a dump of a TPF system. PSW Restart always worked when we needed to force a dump. We simply had to teach the operators the sequence Store Status, System Reset, PSW Restart. They often substi

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
n Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 09:56 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Stand Alone Dump to Disk We were asked to update our stand-alone dump procedures. We don't use stand-alone dump very often, and the list of tape drives to use had gotte= n badly out of date. We disc

Re: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
I have been doing VM for over 22 years and have NEVER done a stand-alone dump. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:56 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Stand Alone Dump to Disk

Stand Alone Dump to Disk

2006-08-08 Thread Alan Ackerman
We were asked to update our stand-alone dump procedures. We don't use stand-alone dump very often, and the list of tape drives to use had gotte n badly out of date. We discovered that z/OS can take a stand-alone dump to disk. We get more involved in DASD address changes than in tape ad