Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo)

2009-09-22 Thread Schuh, Richard
Now THAT would have exposed the problem. :-) Actually, he already tried that and the result has been this discussion. Regards, Richard Schuh I'm sure that there are a couple other ways of preventing the problem, like IPL'ing the machine first and doing a Q V ALL to see what resources

Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo)

2009-09-21 Thread John P. Baker
: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo) These are very interesting ideas, but I suspect (no way to prove, since no doc will be forthcoming) that the hang was not a paging issue, but rather

Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo)

2009-09-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM, John P. Baker jbaker...@comporium.net wrote: I recommend that the idea of splitting page space into multiple pools be considered, where individual users can be assigned to different pools.  For the purposes of discussion, let us consider that following

Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo)

2009-09-20 Thread John P. Baker
: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo) On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM, John P. Baker jbaker...@comporium.net wrote: I don't like the idea to use only a subset of your paging capacity for part of the workload. It's not just about space but also about throughput

Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo)

2009-09-20 Thread David Boyes
On 9/20/09 4:26 AM, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: Most performance tuning gets harder when you split resources and consumers in different groups and manage them separately. Sharing is easier with large numbers. Rob Although with SSD coming back into vogue, the idea of

Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo)

2009-09-19 Thread John P. Baker
All, Since we have now beat the issue of storage management to death, I would like to set forth some concrete ideas for consideration. First, it has been pointed out that it may not currently be possible to LOGON to MAINT or OPERATOR or to some other service machine in order to diagnose

Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo)

2009-09-19 Thread Rich Smrcina
Nicely written John P. Baker wrote: All, Since we have now beat the issue of storage management to death, I would like to set forth some concrete ideas for consideration. First, it has been pointed out that it may not currently be possible to LOGON to MAINT or OPERATOR or to some other

Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due to storage typo)

2009-09-19 Thread John P. Baker
into spool space. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Storage Management Enhancement Ideas (was: VM lockup due