Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Lee Stewart
Thanks, that's what I thought, but wanted to be sure... Lee Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 11:07 EST, Lee Stewart wrote: I speak EDEVs, but for various reasons EDEV is not a choice for this customer. They only have SAN disks - raw LUNs. (The VM system itself is installed on

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 11:44 EST, Kris Buelens wrote: > But, using simulated FBA minidisks incur higher CP overheads that > letting Linux use the FCP channels. The question was how does RACF protect FCP. If you want RACF to protect access to LUNs there is no choice but to use minidisks. An

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Richard Troth
The overhead is real, but its cost is not clear. The difference between the performance of direct FCP -vs- EDEV has not been fully measured (or at least not widely reported.) I'm still looking for numbers. Which is faster? For a guest to perform QDIO or for CP to handle it? Traditionally, we hav

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Kris Buelens
But, using simulated FBA minidisks incur higher CP overheads that letting Linux use the FCP channels. 2008/12/16 Alan Altmark > > On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 11:07 EST, Lee Stewart > wrote: > > I speak EDEVs, but for various reasons EDEV is not a choice for this > > customer. They only have SAN

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/16/2008 at 11:07 EST, Lee Stewart wrote: > I speak EDEVs, but for various reasons EDEV is not a choice for this > customer. They only have SAN disks - raw LUNs. (The VM system itself > is installed on the few ECKD volumes -- all the Linuxen are on SAN only.) Sorry, Lee; I misr

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Lee Stewart
I speak EDEVs, but for various reasons EDEV is not a choice for this customer. They only have SAN disks - raw LUNs. (The VM system itself is installed on the few ECKD volumes -- all the Linuxen are on SAN only.) Lee Richard Troth wrote: You want EDEV. EDEV lets FCP disks look like traditio

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 12/15/2008 at 07:36 EST, Lee Stewart wrote: > Hi allDoes the new RACF (VM Security Server) handle protecting > FCP disks? If so, how? By FCP device/CHPID? By target WWPN? By > target LUN? > > I browsed the books but didn't find any FCP references... As Rick says, it's do

Re: The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-15 Thread Richard Troth
You want EDEV. EDEV lets FCP disks look like traditional FBA DASD, so you can slice them up into minidisks, quite like CKD. The way it works is you define an EDEV at some otherwise not-in-use RDEV address, then add WWPN and LUN for each path to the intended FCP disk. You then VARY ON the EDEV an

The new RACF and FCP disks?

2008-12-15 Thread Lee Stewart
Hi allDoes the new RACF (VM Security Server) handle protecting FCP disks? If so, how? By FCP device/CHPID? By target WWPN? By target LUN? I browsed the books but didn't find any FCP references... Thanks, Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 798-295