Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-28 Thread Brian Nielsen
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:10:34 -0500, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/26/08 1:47 PM, Michael Coffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me play devil's advocate for just a minute. WHAT would actually constitute a virus in a VM/CMS environment? We don't have the backdoors and automatic

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-27 Thread David Boyes
On 11/26/08 1:47 PM, Michael Coffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me play devil's advocate for just a minute. WHAT would actually constitute a virus in a VM/CMS environment? We don't have the backdoors and automatic program execution stuff that comes out of Redmond, so you don't have to worry

Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread clifford jackson
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Re: Virus Software for z/VM

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Re: Virus Software for z/VM

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Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread clifford jackson
, then the virus would not run. I've never heard of a virus written to execute on any zSeries OS, with the possible exception of Linux. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM, clifford jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there such athing as Virus Software for z/VM like Norton is for Windows

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 11/26/2008 at 11:25 EST, clifford jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there such a thing as Virus Software for z/VM like Norton is for Windows and such Good question, but no. The risk does not justify the expense. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread David Boyes
On 11/26/08 10:24 AM, clifford jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there such athing as Virus Software for z/VM like Norton is for Windows and such I smell a boilerplate auditor recommendation. We built one for email, and nobody was really all that interested. Intel-based viruses

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Schuh, Richard
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Virus Software for z/VM On Wednesday, 11/26/2008 at 11:25 EST, clifford jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there such a thing as Virus Software for z/VM like Norton is for Windows and such Good question, but no. The risk does not justify

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Thomas Kern
I can understand an interest in having an ANTI-VIRUS software package to run in a CMS virtual machine. We host some files for distribution via a webserver. These files come from a variety of sources. We currently hope that our workstation resident anti-virus software catches any bad stuff. We

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Jack Woehr
Thomas Kern wrote: I would not want something like McAfee or Norton that run all the time looking at all the files, interfering with all work. I would want something like CLAMAV which will scan what I want, when I want and NO MORE. Why not just NFS share your SFS disks and let the workstation

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Thomas Kern
NFS was not allowed when we designed the process. NFS is still not on Cyber-Security's list of approved processes. If I were tasked to change t his process today, I would move the storage and webserving to a linux server on an IFL after I get CLAMAV working there. But that kind of tasking has not

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Chip Davis
On 11/26/08 17:09 David Boyes said: On 11/26/08 10:24 AM, clifford jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there such athing as Virus Software for z/VM like Norton is for Windows and such Intel-based viruses don’t work at all on Z, and while they do exist (XMAS EXEC, anyone

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Coffin
System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Virus Software for z/VM NFS was not allowed when we designed the process. NFS is still not on Cyber-Security's list of approved processes. If I were tasked

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Thomas Kern
On Jan 15, 1991, we received a copy of the GAME2 MODULE (a worm not reall y a virus) and we stopped it from spreading with a similar scan-spoolcle an process. /Tom Kern On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:35:59 +, Chip Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, does that bring back memories! I wrote the

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Thomas Kern
Being the host for files that might be executable on a different platform puts some burden on me to not host malicious files. Just because a wind ows virus is not dangerous to my CMS virtual machine doesn't mean that it isn 't dangerous to my enterprise. If I can identify and eliminate dangerous

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Dave Wade
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Virus Software for z/VM I simply can not imagine why you would need such a thing. If you received a virus in an email, assuming you receive email via VM, then the virus would not run. I've never heard of a virus written to execute on any zSeries OS, with the possible exception

Re: Virus Software for z/VM

2008-11-26 Thread Jack Woehr
Thomas Kern wrote: NFS was not allowed when we designed the process. NFS is still not on Cyber-Security's list of approved processes. If I were tasked to change this process today, I would move the storage and webserving to a linux server on an IFL after I get CLAMAV working there. But that kind